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Did Riverdale Let a Blossom Burn? Did Middle Musical Not Get Its Due? The Week's Coolest Kill? And More TV Qs!

We’ve got questions, and you’ve (maybe) got answers! With another week of TV gone by, we’re lobbing queries left and right about shows including The Originals, American Gods, Criminal Minds and Riverdale!

The Originals1 | Is The Originals‘ Hollow officially pop culture’s scariest little girl since The Ring‘s Samara?

2 | Did Hawaii Five-0 just give CBS an idea, teasing a San Francisco-based spinoff? (Would Jorge Garcia’s Jerry be a part if it, maybe develop conspiracy theories about old Alcatraz inmates resurfacing?)

3 | Was Blue Bloods guest star Lauren Velez making a Dexter nod when her law enforcement character said she used to work in Miami?

4 | On Once Upon a Time, as nicely sung as it was by Rebecca Mader, did “Wicked Always Wins” feel disjointed from the rest of the musical episode? Also, which of the six main tunes did you find yourself most often humming this week?

Getting On5 | Did seeing The Last Man on Earth‘s Mel Rodriguez back in scrubs make you miss Getting On all over again?

6 | Did the first few moments of this week’s Madam Secretary make you long for a Company revival starring Erich Bergen?

7 | Now that we’re two episodes into American Gods, which of the deities is your favorite? (For the record, we’re torn between Media and Mr. Nancy.)

8 | Were The Arrangement‘s Scientology vibes through the roof during the finale?

9 | Who could’ve predicted that Quantico‘s Matthew Keyes would turn out to be one of the show’s most vocal feminists? (Not us!)

10 | Could The Flash‘s big expo dump from Savitar have greatly benefited from flashback scenes? Also, how did amnesic Barry know his way to the burning building? TVLine reader Raissa meanwhile asks: “Why didn’t Killer Frost become Caitlin after Savitar lost his memory? Didn’t he give her powers after Flashpoint?”

11 | Which was the cooler death: S.H.I.E.L.D.‘s Coulson using his holo-shield to slice off a robot’s face, or Five-0‘s McGarrett using a shoulder-mount rocket launcher to blow a baddie to smithereens?

The Middle12 | Was ABC too busy promoting Once Upon a Time‘s musical episode to give us a heads-up on The Middle‘s delightful Brad-and-Sue number?

13 | Can NCIS fans assume that Tony was at least going to attend McGee’s originally scheduled summertime wedding?

14 | Seeing as NCIS: New Orleans‘ Pride is a good two inches shorter than his would-be barroom assassin, shouldn’t Wade have been able to ID the corpse quicker?

15 | Do Prison Break‘s ISIL goons have even worse aim than Star Wars stormtroopers?

16 | The Americans‘ secret wedding was sweet and all, but would Elizabeth really be OK with all the God talk in the ceremony, given her well-established hatred of religion?

17 | We understand that The Daily Show reunion on The Late Show was edited for time, but did no one involved realize that the actual interview with the correspondents featured nary a single question for Ed Helms?

Timeless18 | We all joke about it, but let’s get serious: NBC would totally have renewed Chicago Time Machine, right? But now that NBC has cancelled Timeless, can Syfy rescue the show and give us a wonderfully timey-wimey night with 12 Monkeys?

19 | For the love of God, why didn’t The Handmaid’s Tale‘s Ofglen Ofsteven drive away — instead of in circles — when she had the chance?!

20 | Is anyone else looking sideways at Designated Survivor‘s kindly ex-president? And was it pretty obvious the show was out to “Silence of the Lambs” us with the cargo container/van fake-out?

21 | Yes, Empire‘s Cookie is an unpredictable badass, but did it not seem completely out of character for her to have ex-boyfriend Angelo viciously interrogated for information on the whereabouts of her granddaughter — a crime even she admitted he probably had nothing to do with?Criminal Minds

22 | Oh, Criminal Minds‘ Prentiss. If there has been?? And as Diana reunited with Reid, did Jane Lynch evoke the Most Tears Per Syllable of Dialogue this week?

23 | Why didn’t Grey’s Anatomy‘s Stephanie grab her abductor’s scalpel and go for his jugular rather than risk going up in flames by setting him on fire? (And how could she even be sure ashes would flutter down and spark the blaze?) Also, how many of you were fooled by Alex’s dark fantasies not once but twice? Lastly, upon learning that Megan was alive, was anyone at all — anyone aside from Owen — surprised?

24 | Did Riverdale remember to get Nana Rose out of the house before Cheryl set it on fire?! And how long do you give it before Betty’s brother shows up in town?

25 | On The Big Bang Theory, why did Penny make it seem as though she had never met Ramona, and needed more details from Leonard about Sheldon’s admirer? And wouldn’t Ramona, who back in Season 2 saw Penny as a threat, have had more of a reaction to seeing her again?

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72 Comments
  1. chuckiechk says:

    24 | And how long do you give it before Betty’s brother shows up in town?

    – that is who I thought shot Fred Andrews at Pops

    • Chuck says:

      Why would Betty’s brother shoot Fred? With Hiram coming to town and Hermione’s warning about not selling his company, it’s obviously a hit (unless Hiram somehow managed to hire Betty’s brother, tying two plot lines together).

  2. Carrie says:

    Savitar didn’t give Caitlin her powers. The people that got powers from Savitar were in some kind of stasis chamber. Her powers were caused in some way by Flashpoint but not from Savitar.

    • Wordsmith says:

      In all of their exposition nonsense, the Flash writers basically built in a clause that says, “Screw it, we’re tired of making all of this work out logically, so we’re just going to say it’s so screwed up at this point that the effects are unpredictable.”
      As Doctor Who fans say, it’s “Time-y wimey.”

    • Butch says:

      Correct Caitlin having powers were part of the differences between before and after Flashpoint like Cisco’s brother’s death.

  3. Jennifer says:

    18 | We all joke about it, but let’s get serious: NBC would totally have renewed Chicago Time Machine, right? But now that NBC has cancelled Timeless, can Syfy rescue the show and give us a wonderfully timey-wimey night with 12 Monkeys?

    YES YES and YES!!! Please. Can we make this happen somehow?!?!?

  4. Wordsmith says:

    4) I agree that Zelena’s tune was the one that the writers had to work hardest to shoehorn in there.
    As for the most persistent earworm, I keep find myself bursting out with, “Revenge, Revenge, REVENGE is gonna be mine!
    Josh Dallas and his majestic high note is still the most rewatchable moment of the episode, though.

  5. Katherine215 says:

    18. Oh please have Syfy rescue Timeless! Timeless season 2 back to back with 12 Monkeys season 4 would be awesome.

  6. Brian says:

    If not SyFy, how about Canada’s Showtime channel for Travelers/Timeless with a US Netflix release. I’m really hoping someone saves it.

  7. Jennifer says:

    6 | Did the first few moments of this week’s Madam Secretary make you long for a Company revival starring Erich Bergen?

    OMG, YES!!!
    ———————–
    14 | Seeing as NCIS: New Orleans‘ Pride is a good two inches shorter than his would-be barroom assassin, shouldn’t Wade have been able to ID the corpse quicker?

    Bodies act/react weird when burned. It might not have been so apparent to the ME.
    ———————–
    22 | Oh, Criminal Minds‘ Prentiss. If there has been?? And as Diana reunited with Reid, did Jane Lynch evoke the Most Tears Per Syllable of Dialogue this week?

    How did I miss that?!?!? I am a grammar freak. And yes. She did. She’s amazing in that role.

  8. Larc says:

    14- On Pride ID: I somehow doubt a body that gets burned to a crisp maintains the same precise height.

  9. Aeol says:

    #23 they WANTED us to think she was going for the scalpel, and then TRIED to fool us when she doused him instead. But my questions are, how did an actual human torch not trigger the sprinkler system? And what did she think she was going to do, grab a flaming human being and just drag him out of exploding distance?
    I was completely fooled by the first Alex fakeout, but caught on about halfway through the second.

    • SB says:

      Why didn’t she put an OUNCE of pressure on his wound when she first got “taken hostage” and this whole thing would have been moot? And was he secretly a super-human, because he went from barely being able to sit up in bed without causing massive internal injury, to walking around, to running (while on fire)?

  10. Bob says:

    I kinda like that ABC didnt spoil the musical number on The Middle. It was a nice surprise to a somewhat boring ep.

  11. Paula says:

    I was bitterly disappointed that I only saw one fleeting glimpse of a promo featuring Sue and Brad’s delightful spin on LaLa Land. As usual, both actors gave stellar performances. I am so tired of Eden Sher being taken for granted by the network. All will be forgiven when ABC gives Sue Heck (and Brad) a spinoff once The Middle finally ends… hopefully after another decade or so. The Middle is my all time favorite sitcom and I will never be ready to say goodbye to the Heck family and their friends!

  12. David says:

    19. She couldn’t drive away. The setting for Handmaid’s Tale is the future site of Wayward Pines and we all know there’s no escaping that area.

  13. kirads09 says:

    #2 – Oh Dear God YES! Alcatraz!! (can Sam Neill come back too PLEASE)
    #18 – Or renewed it if it were named Law and Order: LIfeboat – the team travels “somewhere” each week to solve a murder in true L&O fashion. Seriously though, it would be amazing if SyFy would pick it up.
    #20 – Yes. He is a little too good to be true & helpful to Kirkman. Can’t figure out if he is part of the conspiracy or maybe he just wants real bad to be POTUS again.

  14. Chuck says:

    The first thing I thought was did they get Granny Blossom out? LOL

  15. Tom says:

    7 | Now that we’re two episodes into American Gods, which of the deities is your favorite? (For the record, we’re torn between Media and Mr. Nancy.)
    ~
    Do I have to pick someone we’ve seen? Because thinking things over, one of my answers is someone we’ve not met yet, and I don’t think we will this season. Of the ones we’ve met, Nancy, and because I’m so fond of Cloris Leachman (Who should be the one getting all the adoration Betty White gets), Zorya Vechernyaya
    ~
    12 | Was ABC too busy promoting Once Upon a Time‘s musical episode to give us a heads-up on The Middle‘s delightful Brad-and-Sue number?
    ~
    It did catch me by surprise but was most welcome
    ~
    18 | We all joke about it, but let’s get serious: NBC would totally have renewed Chicago Time Machine, right? But now that NBC has cancelled Timeless, can Syfy rescue the show and give us a wonderfully timey-wimey night with 12 Monkeys?
    ~
    Thank you for acknowledging the insanity that is Chicago. Also, I still say “timey-wimey” becomes less and less special the more it’s used outside of Blink. Blink it was wonderfully eccentric. Each time Who used it after that was beating a dead horse/NBC greenlighting Chicago Sanitation
    ~
    25 | On The Big Bang Theory, why did Penny make it seem as though she had never met Ramona, and needed more details from Leonard about Sheldon’s admirer? And wouldn’t Ramona, who back in Season 2 saw Penny as a threat, have had more of a reaction to seeing her again?
    ~
    That is a good question, maybe we weren’t supposed to remember that? Maybe they didn’t?

  16. Marco Piazzo says:

    18. Try to get El Ministerio Del Tiempo to Netflix instead, aka the show Timeless shamelessly ripped off.

  17. lizzie says:

    25) Of course Penny remembered Ramona, but the writers had to have someone tell the story for any viewers who may not have known.

  18. Jason says:

    10) Savitar didn’t give Caitlin her powers. They occurred because Barry created Flashpoint, but are not directly related to the big bad. Whether or not those events lead to Savitar’s creation, some unknown variable would still have given us Killer Frost.
    11) Coulson get my nod of approval. The shield death was kind of perfect.
    12) ABC is too busy doing virtually any other possible thing, then giving time to The Middle’s promotion. It is probably one of the most criminally underrated shows on TV. Modern Family gets all the attention, but in my opinion, doesn’t even come close to being as consistently great.
    18) I have no doubt that being a genre show, is what instigated NBC to cancel Timeless instead of Taken. I’d love to see someone else pick it up, but I’m not holding my breath.

  19. Summer says:

    24. I’m convinced that Cheryl was smart enough to get Nana Blossom out of there and into a home first, or that Penelope moved her right after Clifford Blossom’s funeral so that she wouldn’t have to deal with her anymore.

    As far as Chick Cooper is concerned, I’m thinking he’ll appear sometime around sweeps or right before the midseason finale.

  20. 2. I remember reading a while ago that Alex O’Loughlin said he wanted to finish after season 8 – maybe it’s the early seeds for a continuation if H50 does finish next season?!?!

    10 I don’t think Savitar did give Caitlin her powers, i can’t remember her having a husk!

  21. TV Gord says:

    Speaking of cliffhangers, the musical number on The Middle came dangerously close to teetering over the edge for me (on a show so based in reality), but my love for Sue Heck made me go with it. :-)

  22. mmh1019 says:

    YES 100% to #6. Madam Secretary’s musical bits that they’ve inserted over the past few seasons have been so well placed, particularly since Erich Bergen, Patina Miller, Bebe Neuwirth & Sebastian Arcelus are such amazing performers! Even Stephanie J Block (Seb’s real-life wife) popping up as his now ex-wife, I was hoping for a smidgen of a song!!

  23. I’m betting that the person who shot Fred on Riverdale is either Hiram Lodge or a stooge for him. Dumb. And “Wicked Always Wins” seemed slightly out of place in the Zelena time frame on Once.

  24. westwingwolf says:

    18. All during the Timeless episode set in Chicago with Al Capone, I was tweeting that if it got the show a guarantee renewal, I’d happily watch Timeless become a part of the Chicago franchise. I said they could take Casey & Severide back to the 1908 Great Chicago Fire. Or maybe they could try to fix the curse put on the Cubs.
    21. I don’t know. I think it’s been well established that Cookie would do anything for her family. If she thought there was even a slim chance that Angelo knew something, she’d go for it. Too bad he didn’t know anything until after she had him beat up.
    23. Yes, they even clearly showed the scalpel making you think that was the choice she was going with just so they could surprise you a second later with lighting him on fire. But in the end, it just makes Stephanie look dumb. She was in that room moments before. She works in a hospital knowing oxygen tanks are likely all over the place, and since I saw them clearly the first time she went into the room, did they really expect us to believe that she wouldn’t think about it. She is a surgeon. Surgeons are trained to think under pressure for anything that might happen. Stabbing the guy with a scalpel was more of a sure bet for safety than setting him on fire. She could have slashed his throat. She clearly wasn’t worried about the morality of intentionally harming the guy. Not that anyone would blame her anyway. It’s just sad that the likely last moments of a brilliant character are shown to be chaotically dumb because she didn’t think about the danger. Counter that with seeing how Alex’s decisions would have had disastrous consequences which is why he ultimately decided not to do anything. I know Stephanie was more pressured in her situation, but like I said, she’s trained to think about the consequences under pressure. Her first thought should have been to be careful with fire in a hospital because of oxygen tanks. She should have even tried to tell him that he could blow himself up because of it. But they had to ignore something her character would know just to serve a plot. Bad writing.
    24. She hasn’t been seen for a while. I guess they could just claim that they put her in a home or she was hospitalized after learning her son killed himself.

    • Hannah says:

      I actually disagree about Stephanie not using the scalpel – way too often do we see characters thinking they’re going to get away from their attackers by using a knife/blade/whatever, but then the attacker grabs them before they can cause any immediately devastating damage. That scalpel was quite small, so a stab wouldn’t have done much to his back (it would hurt him, but it likely wouldn’t take him down). And a well placed cut or slash would have been great to his carotid or other major artery, but he was facing away from Stephanie and moving around, so she could have easily missed. And then his crazy butt would have killed her and the little girl. You make slashing someone’s throat sound super easy, but it really isn’t. But dousing him with flammable liquid when he was literally holding something on fire above his head would undoubtedly kill him. Using the scalpel would have been a very dumb choice for such a smart woman. Where she messed up was opening that door. She should have taken her chances hiding in that room.

      • westwingwolf says:

        I think she could have gotten a stab into his neck before he could have been aware of her. For someone who was training to be a surgeon, it’s strange she didn’t go with the choice that she was more comfortable with over something more chaotic. Whether it wouldn’t have worked or not is not the issue, it’s that Stephanie seemed to go against a tool and knowledge she’d have known in order to get to this point where part of the hospital blows up. It serves the plot more than the character, and that’s not good writing.

      • SB says:

        But we’re forgetting he was in a major CAR ACCIDENT! She initially wheeled him out in a wheel chair because moving too much could have caused massive damage. She didn’t need the scalpel. Just firm pressure on the abdomen and he would have gone down.

        • TV Gord says:

          But then, we wouldn’t have had the big kaboom. Something needed to happen to cause the big kaboom!

    • Kimmie says:

      Brilliant character? I’ve watched GA since it started. Stephanie, like Jo and the others, are whiney, annoying, forgettable characters. She won’t be missed.

      • westwingwolf says:

        I think Stephanie was the best of the newbies. Not as great as the originals, but definite my favorite of the new interns for the season she first arrived. I know the actress got a new show, and I’m glad for her. I just wish she got a better way of leaving. Even if this is ultimately a death for her (as oppose to severe burns and/or coma), I’d be fine with a death if it wasn’t written with this flawed writing. I think Grey’s could scale back on characters. Hopefully no more interns show up to create new blood. Focus on the characters they have until more of those actors choose to leave as well.

  25. Dominique says:

    18 – we all know it’s true and it’s why i’m liking NBC less and less. in five years from now, we’ll have three more chicago shows, all doing major crossovers with each AND law&order: svu and their new spin-offs, while amazing shows with great potential will get cancelled once again.

  26. EmMul says:

    12) It was a welcome surprise! The Middle is always midwest perfection. The real question about The Middle for me is if Sue and Sean were always supposed to be end game. Did the writers give the neighbors the name Donahue so that Sue would in the end become Sue Sue Donahue?

  27. Flashy says:

    Savitar had nothing to do with Caitlin becoming Killer Frost. That was just a change that occurred because of Flashpoint. Like how Savitar didn’t have anything to do with Dante being dead.

  28. Karen says:

    19 – OMG, yes! My husband and I were like, Drive! Drive the Hell out of there!

  29. Angela says:

    22. Ahahaha, I totally missed that bit of Emily’s text, too :D. Good catch!
    .
    And yes about Jane Lynch in that reunion scene. I love her portrayal of Diana Reid, and she and MGG capture that touching mother/son bond so wonderfully. I was so happy that she made it through this season all right.

  30. skrable2a says:

    14) I got an immediate flashback to the mothership and Tony’s car blowing up, with Ducky saying at first glance that the burned corpse appeared to be the proper height and weight. … The bigger NCIS:NO question for me is: If all they had to do to get Percy out of prison was to find the right judge, couldn’t they have claimed that she was in danger a lot earlier?

  31. Alichat says:

    10) Caitlin gained her meta-human powers after Barry re-set Flashpoint. Savitar didn’t enable them. Either way, that amnesia story was lame.
    16) I thought about that, but Philip did say to her right before that it was the best he could do on short notice, so I assumed she focused on the moment and didn’t let it bother her.
    18) OMG seriously. There are too many Dick Wolf shows on NBC. Spin offs of spin offs of spin offs. He’s got 7 or 8 of them. I would love to see Timeless on Syfy or anywhere on my tv.
    23) Because Shonda has to kill her. I was….twice. No.

  32. jrex says:

    I immediately wondered about Nana Blossom, but since she hasn’t been seen at any of the recent dinners or even after Daddy’s funeral I assumed she had been shipped off to a rest home.

  33. cej says:

    #12. The Middle doesn’t get anywhere near the respect due it. I find it more consistently funny than Modern Family. How about some love, ABC and the media! That musical number was fabulous!

  34. Carlo says:

    Master of none s02e01: Dev should have just gone back to Osteria Giusti and ask for the full name or number of Sara, who had reserved a seat for the following month!

  35. To everyone pointing out that Flashpoint, not Savitar, gave Caitlin her powers, I get what you’re saying, but it raises another continuity glitch. It was established in S2 with the advent of E-2 Frost that Caitlin didn’t have the meta gene. Time travel wouldn’t alter that fact. So, the writers really messed up, considering fans have been waiting for Earth-1 Killer Frost since casting news first came out. They were better off keeping the E-2 version alive. They could’ve avoided the hassle.

  36. Asia says:

    18 NBC would have definitely ruined Chicago Time Machine. I’m over this network, with its multitude of Chicago shows, and they picked up another Law and Order. It’s tired. I hope Timeless finds a new home.

  37. Jared S says:

    Savitar didn’t give Caitlin powers Flashpoint did.

  38. Meridith Emmer says:

    Bonus question… was it but 2 get one free in the setting people of fire department? Chicago PD and Greys both lit people on fire and made us watch it! Ugh!

    • grazelled says:

      Timeless – Please shop around anywhere! Will really miss this show…boo hiss NBC. Hope Sony realizes how much of a following this show has.

  39. lrdslvrhnd says:

    2) I’ve been waiting for “San Francisco Five-0” since Abby showed up to observe the team.
    .
    11) Coulson’s defaceination. Although I wondered why he didn’t do that in the following fight, surely he had opportunities. With McGarrett, I was still too busy calling him a dumbass for not having his gun out ready to shoot the baddie as soon as he hit the roof.
    .
    13) I’m sure Tony was. And still will be, in the big wedding they mentioned. I still want to know why nobody from Delilah’s circle was there.
    .
    20) I’ve been waiting for the ex-President to show his true colors ever since he showed up. Secretary of State *is* rather close to the Oval Office, especially without a VP…
    .
    23) Gosh, Megan is alive? I’m shocked, SHOCKED, that there’s gambling in Rick’s Cafe!
    .
    26) Not on your list, but… how the deuce did Chase get that huge – and therefore freakin’ *heavy* – block of concrete into Oliver’s office, without anyone noticing? Or, y’know. Without a crane?

    • lrdslvrhnd says:

      Oh, and couldn’t Rene ask if his daughter could wait outside while he told the story about her mother, if he wanted to avoid reawakening bad memories for her? That seems like a much more logical way to go than “I’m just gonna leave her in foster care so I don’t dredge those up”. Then again, it *is* Rene and logic (or smarts) isn’t really his strong suit… but I’d think Lance would’ve thought of that.

  40. Sheldon Wiebe says:

    14 | Seeing as NCIS: New Orleans‘ Pride is a good two inches shorter than his would-be barroom assassin, shouldn’t Wade have been able to ID the corpse quicker?

    The badly burnt corpse was tucked up in the fetal position so his height wasn’t immediately apparent and it probably took Loretta a while to get him untucked (if she did at all), so that wasn’t really a goof.

  41. Temperance says:

    7 – all of them, but Media, to me, seems the most interesting (or perhaps, I just want to see what seethes under the polished red-haired facade). That show is so fascinating! 24 – I don’t know, but whatever is going on in Riverdale, I can hardly wait to see what’s next. And triple kudos to Madelaine Petsch and her the absolutely insane, fantastic Cheryl Blossom.

  42. ninergrl6 says:

    4. Yes, “Wicked Always Wins” is a decent song, but it was superfluous and felt shoe-horned into the ep. “Revenge is Gonna Be Mine” is the tune that got stuck in my head.
    18. Praying for SyFy or ANYONE to resuscitate Timeless.
    24. Betty’s bro will show up by mid-season 2.

  43. Aneta says:

    10 | It wasn;t Savitar who gave Caitlin her powers. Yes, it was because of Flashpoint but she got them earlier, like Cisco

  44. Katie Pruss says:

    Come back Timeless!!! It would be awesome if the Syfy channel picked it up! If not Syfy then hopefully some other channel!

  45. Ella says:

    21 | Thank you! I can’t believe Cookie let them torture Angelo. She’s as bad as her husband –
    at least he doesn’t pretend to be something he isn’t. And she was WAYYYY over the top last night with her throwing obscenities around every 5 seconds. Thoroughly unlikable.