Thomas Gibson Pursuing Legal Action After Criminal Minds Termination

Thomas Gibson, who on Friday was fired from veteran CBS procedural Criminal Minds following an on-set altercation, is looking to file suit against the show’s producers.

Per The Hollywood Reporter, Gibson has hired Los Angeles-based litigators Skip Miller and Sasha Frid to mull over whether it would be in his best interests to pursue legal action after he was dismissed for allegedly kicking writer Virgil Williams during a heated dispute over creative differences. Williams is said to have filed a complaint with human resources, forcing Gibson, who was directing the episode in question, to be replaced by an alternate director before he was initially suspended and subsequently let go.

Upon his dismissal on Friday, Gibson released a statement to TVLine in which he expressed sorrow for not being able to see Criminal Minds through to the very end, but did not at any point address the supposed conflict:

“I love Criminal Minds and have put my heart and soul into it for the last 12 years,” Gibson said. “I had hoped to see it through to the end, but that won’t be possible now. I would just like to say thank you to the writers, producers, actors, our amazing crew, and, most importantly, the best fans that a show could ever hope to have.”

As reported by our sister site Deadline, this latest incident was the second of its kind for Gibson, who years ago reportedly shoved an assistant director and was in turn assigned mandatory anger management classes.

Criminal Minds Season 12 premieres Wednesday, Sept. 28.

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197 Comments
  1. amy says:

    Oh you have got to be kidding me. He deserved to be fired, and should just be thankful the guy didn’t call the cops and have him arrested for assault

    • Fairmont1955 says:

      agree

      • Donna says:

        The show is not the same without Gibson, I love the other Characters. But Gibson will be missed. I wonder what had happened to him,just found out today. Tears! ! We all have issues are you saying you don’t? Let’s keep it real. !!! What he done was wrong for sure. But to fire him? Two sides to a story. Pray for both!!

        • Candy Johnson says:

          Maybe it wasn’t wrong what he did. Maybe it was wrong what the person did to him or what he said to me. Shame on all of you people you don’t know what cause it.

    • mistri says:

      If he was arrested for assault it would be a city ordinance violation, that’s all. Stop making this more than it is. He had a meltdown, he kicked. Nobody was injured. A hefty suspension and fine would have served the purpose of adequate punishment for this “heinous” crime.

      • Seriously how stupid are you? says:

        Are you serious? The man has known anger issues and you want to down play it because you enjoy his “character” on a tv show? Violence in any form is never adequate at the work place!

        • I think you mean never “appropriate” but nice try.

          • Barry says:

            Correct. It’s like the signs in supermarkets that say “10 items or less.” Should it not read “10 items or fewer.” Gibson is a fine actor. CBS have a hit show. Put Thomas and his protagonist together with support. Get back to the business of making successful episodes. Please.

        • Mindi McCown says:

          He’s had an incident for pushing prior. Miller practices martial arts and is notorious for aggravating. We haven’t heard the entire story. So are you stupid? You’ve tried and convicted him based on his shoving incident.

          • Candy Johnson says:

            I agree with you. Ever person is making William the bad guy. There is a reason why he did it. Some one made him angry.

        • Debbi says:

          True…but… come on! Grow up and make amends. Forgiveness. You don’t bite your own nose off to spite your face.

        • R says:

          Really? Should he have gotten the death sentence if he had spit on him as well?

      • S says:

        I’m assuming Criminal Minds films in California. It’s battery, which is a misdemeanor and punishable by up to six months in jail (California Penal Code 242 PC).

        • John NYC says:

          Key phrase “up to”, oh alongside “innocent until proven guilty”.

          • Roger says:

            There is no question that he kicked someone. There is no question that he previously shoved someone. There were multiple witnesses both times. In the first instance, his employers ordered him to take anger management therapy. That obviously didn’t work.

            If you attacked any of your coworkers, do you think your employers wouldn’t fire you?

          • John NYC says:

            Due process remains a citizen’s right. Ymmv.

          • Temperance says:

            And you have no idea what was happening from the other side.

      • Roger says:

        Kicking someone is called assault & battery. It’s a felony. You can’t abuse your work colleagues and not expect to get fired!

        How often have we heard of work-related violence where someone seriously injures or kills coworkers? Too often. Gibson’s employers had a duty of care to ensure that the workplace was free of violence and emotional abuse. Otherwise, Gibson’s coworkers would have grounds for suit.

        Gibson had attacked another coworker previously. He had his chance to reform.

        • no name says:

          i would get your facts straight. my info says generally assaults are FELONIES when law enforcement is involved.
          this certainly is not felony worthy.

      • David4 says:

        Go to work and kick a coworker and see how long you have a job.

        Then just to make sure kick another coworker.

        This isn’t the first time. I can’t believe people defend his actions.

        • Andrea says:

          @David, for me, it’s not about defending actions, but it’s about evaluating all of the pieces of information. I think the martial-arts training of Mr. Williams could potentially have bearing on the situation. Everyone has outside hobbies. The guy could have been into scrapbooking or scuba diving, but he’s a marital artist. Why was that fact brought up and who brought that fact to the media? Was it someone who just wanted to give a juicy morsel to the media, or does the producer’s hobby have some bearing on the situation? I think there is more to the story, and while I know the general public will never have the whole story, Mr. Williams martial arts training and its context on the set is as relevant to me as Thomas Gibson’s past behavior.

          • Carol_R says:

            If you’re at a certain level in martial arts, then you body is considered a lethal weapon. It’s not the same as someone without martial arts training kicking someone.

        • Candy Johnson says:

          I am upset because there was a reason for his action. That person that he kick there is a reason why William got upset.
          That person had done something wrong to upset William. It takes two people to get angry. No body is asking what cause William to kick that man. It’s not all Williams fault.
          You are at work and a cowork says or does something to upset you that’s ok to walk away from it. Let’s be real about this and far. Fine out why William did what he did wrong and what caused it.

      • Dysturbed says:

        The point of someone getting a second chance is to prove that certain behaviors won’t happen again. They did, so even though a lot of us are fans of his work and can’t imagine the show without him, it doesn’t mean that the firing isn’t appropriate.

      • Mindi McCown says:

        Reports first said that Miller was aggravating Gibson by fake attacking him. I agree fine him even suspend a couple shows. The heinous shin kicking wasn’t an incident with Miller for hour later and only after he told “his”crew. I think they made a hasty decision and will regret it.

      • Celia Burleson says:

        True. I agree

      • Candy Johnson says:

        That right I believe they want to far with this. They will regret it.

    • Chris says:

      Lol assault. If a 200 lb man that is 6’2 wanted to “assault” a little bitty man like Virgil Williams, he could with no problem. 😂

    • JBC says:

      Totally agree! Nobody at my job would be allowed to continue working if they assaulted a fellow co worker. Hope Mr. Gibson gets some help with his anger issues.
      On another note: maybe it’s time for Criminal Minds series to end. The violent nature of the show and darkness has gotten worse through the years. I can’t watch anymore.

      • jazzyt2u says:

        So the show needs to end because YOU can’t watch anymore??? That’s just silly.

        • Candy Johnson says:

          The show will end up losing because of what they did to William the rateing will go down he is the one that made the show so exciting to watch no one can replace him. They could have got him or made him take a vacation with out pay. That’s is a big punishment.
          Believe that show will end with out him. Ok so he did wrong. But it will effect the show its not the same without him. The show has lost good actors.
          When I watch the show there are less actors . Everybody is getting fired that is telling me that there is a problem with the people that are running the show.

    • Reality Check says:

      Sorry, but in real life, if an average person superficially kicks someone during a heated dispute where both parties were acting aggressive, the police wouldn’t charge anyone (they know it’d just a waste of time for the courts). (Now, it would be different if the person being kicked was a woman.) It’s really kind of simple – there was heated creative dispute between two men that got out of hand. Most guys would understand, make peace and move on … but I guess Virgil isn’t a real man (maybe half of one).

    • James says:

      He could have been arrested and made to pay any medical bills however this doesn’t take away from the way his case in human resources handled the confidential aspects of this case when it leaked and when they released that press release this was illegal and a violation of state law in relations to employer -employee related personnel matters sadly the network will pay dearly for this. The only way out for them is IF there was an agreement that any physical violence violated his previous discipline directive ? The company just might wriggle out of a lawsuit by saying company policy mandates automatic termination of employee because of worker violence not once but twice however I can guarantee you this network has arbitration and if that’s the case this company is screwed because they can set aside company policy and address the discipline and leak I forgot to mention in my post that both sides in the arbitration have to agree on what the hearing is about and going to cover a very important stage of arbitration . As for the actor serious anger issues need to be examined he should have been arrested to drive home the point he is not above the law if he is like this at work what kind of home life is it for others around him ? I support him in the context that there is a right way and a wrong way his employer human resources should have handled this sadly they screwed it all up.

    • Temperance says:

      You have no idea what happened. Full stop.

    • Glad to know you’ve solved it. Where were you when it happened, btw?

    • Mindi McCown says:

      Bring Thomas( Hotch ) Gibson back and hire a bouncer. Who knows if writer Virgil Williams wasn’t aggravating and antagonizing Gibson on? Perhaps wanting an incident with
      Gibson to report. Gibson is a better target since he was punished for pushing a producer years ago. Most of first stories allege that Willams was egging Gibson on and pretending to kicking or punching him. Mandy P left after 2 seasons because he didn’t realize a show named Criminal Minds might be about just that? Thomas Gibson, Shemar Moore, Joe Mantegna kept me watching.

    • Candy Johnson says:

      You don’t know what the guy did to William. To cause him to get angry there are two sides of the story. Everybody is not helping . You all talk bad about William fine out the truth before judging a person.

    • Candy Johnson says:

      I am not kidding he didn’t have to fired him There are other ways to handling the issues. No body is beening far.

  2. Daya says:

    Between this and some previous guest star stealing 60k from Shemar’s company, it’s been quite an eventful week for past and present CM cast!

  3. Michelle says:

    Considering there is likely a LOT of witnesses for both incidents, he’d lose. Problem actors need to know that there will be consequences for their nonsense.

    • John NYC says:

      Not necessarily. The actual details would be relevant. As would the wording of his contract.

      • Jbj says:

        The interesting thing about his contract is that his first assult in 2010 went down during contract negotiations. Supposedly, they suspended talks, so I would not be surprised if they put in a behavior clause. That might explain why the show was so quick to terminate a lead actor, when they could end up holding the bag for his salary and damaging a profitable show. That said, the actors on a show like this (which already experienced a bit of turnover) are basically meat puppets, because the money is made from foreign and domestic syndication. Those packages are sold with no regard to who is on the show when.

        • thisismenow says:

          You’ve pretty much hit it on the head. Actors sign a morals clause in their contract.

          If at any time while Artist is rendering or obligated to render on-camera services for the program hereunder, Artist is involved in any situation or occurrence which subjects Artist to public scandal, disrepute, widespread contempt, public ridicule, [or which is widely deemed by members of the general public, to embarrass, offend, insult or denigrate individuals or groups,] or that will tend to shock, insult or offend the community or public morals or decency or prejudice the Producer in general, then Producer shall have the right, in its sole discretion, to take any action it deems appropriate, including but not limited to terminating the production of the program.

      • Just one thing says:

        Why am I not surprised that you’re defending this guy, John NYC? 🙄

        • John NYC says:

          Because I’ve shown a respect and interest for the actual details of an issue rather than running immediately for the heavy breathing lynch party route in the basis of s couple of press releases and an Internet outragefest?

          And an interest in the factual details for a complete view of an issue in not a “defense” it’s an intelligent approach to a situation where little is known.

          But the society of the perpetually outraged does love it’s hytseria doesn’t it? Just not me, a skeptic at heart. Ymmv.

          • Playhouse says:

            Yes, but your assumption is that the production doesn’t have all the facts and isn’t capable of making a decision on an actor’s employment when presented with all those facts. I’d say if the production took this step, especially given the potential in these situations to open themselves up to legal challenge, then they are confident they would be found to have just cause.

          • Just one thing says:

            No, no, no, Playhouse. Clearly the studio and the network aren’t operating with all the facts in hand.
            .
            Their reasoning is no more sound than a “heavy breathing lynch party.”

  4. Angela says:

    Oh, geez, this just gets better and better. *Sighs*

  5. Josh says:

    Man, I’m sure other shows are just going to be scrambling to pick up a spiteful block of wood with anger issues

  6. Will Drake says:

    He was first suspended and he accepted the punishment then he was fired. Double punishment is not legal in court – you accept the plea bargain, sign the paperwork, plea guilty for a year in prison, later the DA changes the prison time to life. I wonder if this applies to the workplace.

    • James Rapien says:

      Uh no it doesn’t…

    • Chad says:

      Wrong. He was suspended pending a review of his actions. Upon said review this incident and his previous on-set altercation set the stage for his firing. He was fired for cause and any halfway competent attorney should let him know that if he sues for wrongful termination he’ll be laughed out of court.

      • mistri says:

        Unless there’s more to the story than what has been published. There were witnesses who said the writer/producer provoked him and was trained in martial arts. That doesn’t relieve Gibson of responsibility for his actions but is this a “crime” worth losing your job? Especially if losing said job impacts the livelihood of the rest of the cast and crew? Maybe this is just an excuse to put an end to its run mid-season.

        • Maxwell says:

          Per the report in The Hollywood Reporter, the producers, some of whom witnessed the altercation, as well as Gibson’s felllow cast members are expressing support for Williams in the ongoing CBS-ABC investigation. It must be pretty serious if these people whose jobs they will likely lose if the show gets cancelled after Gibson is dismissed are supporting Williams.

          • Jerri says:

            They could’ve been intimidated by Williams. I am curious to see what was the reason why Ginson kicked Williams. How did it start exactly. Did Williams interfere with a directing decision or he didn’t want Gibson to change anything in the script ?

        • S says:

          Provocation is not a defense. And don’t put crime in quotation marks. It is a crime. It’s battery. He’s lucky he’s not being charged.

        • Chloe says:

          If the writer/producer is trained in martial arts, than kicking him seems incredibly stupid [in addition to being completely wrong]. Why would you kick someone who could flatten you like a pancake? It sounds like Gibson not only has anger issues, he’s got a death wish, too. LOL

          • PatriciaLee says:

            Well, that writer/producer would have had to restrain himself since someone with martial arts training is considered to have extra responsibility no matter what (or somesuch) because of that training. (according to the husband who had some training 35 years ago and is still extra cautious because of that) I now understand that would have put an extra strain on the “ensemble”.

        • Night Owl says:

          Exactly! We don’t know the details. That’s why I don’t like to play the “let’s come up with a scenario and post it as if it’s fact” game. It really is that simple. It’s sad that it happened, but honestly, not my battle. I don’t defend anyone in a fight I never saw occur.

        • Pedro says:

          There’s no amount of provoking that a co-worker can do that would justify one getting physical.

    • herman1959 says:

      FYI, when you get physical in any non-show-busines workplace you are GONE.

    • Roger says:

      You’re applying criminal law procedure to civil contract law. Gibson’s employers are firing him and not prosecuting him in a court of law.

      This was Gibson’s said act of violence in his workplace. Gibson is a 50-something year old man. He’s not a kid. How many people that age do you know kick or shove their coworkers? Of course he was going to be fired. His employers would have a huge liability hanging over their heads. His presence creates a hostile work environment.

    • Sandra Mercer says:

      Well I just would like to know if he is going to be on any upcoming series so I can continue to watch him act. A big fan!!

  7. Ben says:

    He is probably just still angry that Dharma and Greg got cancelled.

  8. Katrinka says:

    Allegedly this wasn’t Mr. Gibson’s first onset dust up. If he chooses to sue I hope he’s got his big boy panties on because no doubt more things will become public fodder. Even if he wins monetarily, I don’t think he wants to go from being a star on a long running TV show to a daily TMZ staple.

  9. Lauren says:

    To whom it matters: I won’t be watching Criminal Minds with Thomas Gibson. It was bad enough you were letting heart-throb Morgan go. But it you think for a moment that your loyal fans are watching because of the producers or writers, your naive at best and just plain stupid at worst. You are cutting off your noses to spite your face. In twelve years this man had two angry altercations???? IN TWELVE YEARS. Why wasn’t the writer fired for aggravating the star to the point of a physical altercation. And how whiny and petty is that writer??? I can only imagine how poorly your shows are now being written. Good luck with your new season…I suspect you’ll learn quickly you shot yours right out of the line-up!

    • Lauren says:

      That former “with” should have read “without Thomas Gibson”. And having now read previous comments…I’m angrier. It the writer is not dismissed too, total travesty. And if the writer “provoked” Gibson into the altercation, it sounds like someone’s going to own Gibson a huge apology!

      • The hell says:

        Lauren as a writer I have to say this attitude is sickening. You don’t care as long as the star is okay. Writers are people to who deserve respect. In general though this is a man with s violent past, you behave like this in any job and you’re gone. Stars don’t deserve the privilege of assaulting people

        • Chloe says:

          Writers are people, too, and they deserve the same respect as actors. In addition, what do you think the actors would be doing if the writers didn’t turn out scripts?

      • Anne says:

        What’s wrong with you? You think violence is ok so long as you get to ogle men?

        • Jerri says:

          Well yeah. Gosh darnit! Isn’t fifty shades of grey the best love story out there, too?!? Violence is ok as long as the man doing it is easy on the eyes.

      • Roger says:

        Really? You are more concerned for Gibson that you are for his victims. This is the second time that Gibson attacked someone on the show. He kicked someone in the shins.Gibson is in his 50s. He’s an adult. After his first assault, his employers made him attend anger management. They were more than fair.

        It’s sad that you are more concerned with one character than you are with safety of the actor’s coworkers.

        As for Shemar Moore, he quit the show to pursue other opportunities. If the producers were smart, they would ask Moore to return for a guest arc this season.

    • Seriously how dumb are you? says:

      To Lauren,

      This is real life dumbass! Two times in 12 years is ind too many. What kind of person condones violence as long as the character portrayed on a tv show is still on it? Do you people realize he used physical violence on two different individuals? That was real not your tv show!

    • Angela says:

      They didn’t let Shemar Moore go. He chose to leave because he wanted to go do other things with his life.
      .
      And if the writer had actually attacked Gibson, my guess is he’d probably be in trouble, too. But he didn’t. Only Gibson got physical. And it wasn’t the first time he’s done this, which indicates he has a problem with learning how to handle confrontation well. If you have an argument with someone at work, you walk away and take a few moments to cool your head. You don’t physically assault somebody. That is not how adults should solve their problems. Don’t get mad at the show for doing what they’re supposed to do in such situations.
      .
      As for the constant talk I’m hearing about “the show’s going to be cancelled!” and so on, well, first off, people have said that every other time cast members have left this show, and guess what? It’s still here, about to start its twelfth season.
      .
      And second, even.if the show does end this year or next? It’s probably going to be due more to the fact that it’s getting up there in years than anything else. Even if Gibson hadn’t been fired, I could see them looking to wrap things up in the next couple years or so simply because at some point all shows have to come to an end eventually. I would certainly miss the show if it did end, of course, and I wouldn’t be excited about it ending, but I also know that things can’t last forever.

      • kmw says:

        Thank you for this reasonable response. No matter what went down on the set you do not get physical with another person, you find a way to a solution without resorting to hitting or kicking in this case. CBS would not have fired him without probable cause not because they want to get rid of the show. If CBS wanted the show to end they would halt production. As it is they have to change not only the director of first episode but have to write him out quickly and without completely offending their fan base. Yes him leaving is a loss but Criminal Minds has survived other cast exits and they should survive this too.

        • Jade Afterglow says:

          You do when the other person comes at you. Everyone bashing Gibson will soon feel like fools. The whole thing was a set up and soon everyone will know this and end this charade.

        • Angela says:

          @Jade Afterglow: Nobody is “bashing” Gibson. I like the guy. I liked him on this show, and think it sucks he won’t be on there anymore. But he has a history and he needs help, and the show did the right thing. That is an inarguable fact.
          .
          And if the other guy was indeed coming at Gibson, all Gibson had to do was walk away, like I said above. The other guy didn’t kick anyone, he didn’t have Gibson in a headlock, he didn’t have his hands on him at all. Gibson was the one who got physical. Therefore, he’s the one in trouble. This is really not that complicated to understand.

    • Alex says:

      Lol “heart-throb Morgan”- evidently you really don’t care about the plot and storylines the writers/producers bring to the show.

      And seriously? 2 angry altercations is somehow acceptable to you because it was within a 12-year span? Where do you draw the line- 3 every 12 years? It’s disturbing how lightly you take violence, especially when it comes to a repeat offender.

      It’s also disturbing that you place so much blame on the victim of the physical violence. Sorry to inform you, but verbal provocation is not an excuse for physical retaliation. You also infer that the writer’s comments must have been so extreme as to set off Gibson’s attack- have you considered that given anger management issues, it could have been even a mild insult that caused Gibson to strike?

      “I can only imagine how poorly yours shows are now being written”…well, I guess it’s a good thing that according to you, no one watches for the writing!

    • Maxwell says:

      Morgan wasn’t let go. Shemar Moore left the show on his own terms. You’re right, the fans are not watching the show because of the producers or writers. But there won’t be a show without producers and writers. No writer, no story, no show for your Gibson to star in. No matter how whiny or petty the writer is, the network fired Gibson after an investigation while he was suspended. He wasn’t fired on a whim like the two female cast members were back in 2010. He was fired for doing that on any other workplace would definitely get fired. The rules in the workplace cannot be changed just because he is the star of a popular long-running tv show.

    • Janice E Cavender says:

      I agree there has been to many cast changes no Prentiss no Morgan and now no Hotch equals no show.

    • Pedro says:

      If you needed to hire someone and asked for references and the answer you got back was “this person is great. in 12 years, he or she only hit me twice” would you hire that person?

    • Sandra Mercer says:

      I agree 100% I will no longer watch criminal minds. It was bad enough that Shemar left the show!!

  10. Sara says:

    Good. It sounds like the guy egged him on and thr studio jumped at the chance to get rid of the largest salary.

    • Night Owl says:

      Care to elaborate on what exactly was said (and the source please) that “sounds like he was egged on”? There haven’t been THAT many details about the alleged altercation. I’m just trying to figure out what you based your conclusion on.

      • Emme says:

        I’m curious to know what the egged on” was also. If it was anywhere between “Not going to change that line and you’re going to like it” to “Yeah, that’s what your Mom said”, it’s no excuse for Gibson to kick the guy.

        Even Williams saying “If you ask me again, I’m going to kick the (bleep) out of you” still wouldn’t excuse Gibson kicking Williams, but I could certainly understand Williams also being in trouble with the network, if to a lesser extent, if Williams had said something like that.

    • KCC says:

      Eight year olds get egged on, adults should know better. I’m guessing the studio planned to make Gibson the bad guy by signing him to a contract at a negotiated amount they really didn’t want to pay, then have a producer/writer taunt him to the point of violence and then fire him, thus saving the salary they didn’t have to offer it to him to begin with. Business 101, they teach it in the first year at Wharton.

      • Emme says:

        Not really quite buying the contract breaking speculation. If Williams’ ego is as big as has been purported by some people, then I seriously doubt that his pride would allow him to be anyone’s, well, it rhymes with witch.

  11. Epp says:

    While I love the entire cast, Aaron Hotchner is pivotal and I don’t think I’ll watch Criminal Minds if he’s not there.

    • Same here Epp. Not watching.
      Gibson said he kicked the writer in the leg when he became aggressive towards him. Seriously its a little over the top to say shoving someone once in 11 years is having a history of violence. It was a bonehead move for Gibson to kick the writer in the leg, unless he felt threatened but the suspension with a warning he’d be fired on the spot if it happened again should have been enough of a punishment.

      • Roger says:

        Please. Gibson is 50-something years old. There are 12-year old’s who have better self-control and don’t kick or shove.

  12. Chris Myers says:

    Is it possible that Wiiliams gave the showrunners an ultimatum of getting rid of Gibson and the powers that believed him over Gibson ?

    • Roger says:

      And, it’s possible that Gibson’s employers just didn’t want to have a violent employee on staff? If you have an employee who has attacked two coworkers, do you think your employers would not fire that person?

  13. Nicole says:

    I hope Criminal Minds reconsider the firing of Thomas Gibson. Thomas Gibson is the lead star, without him I’m not watching Criminal Minds ever again. I will watch the old shows with Thomas Gibson, but not the new episodes. I was devastated when Morgan left, but continued to support the show because of Thomas Gibson. Please give him a second chance. I don’t condone violence, but I do believe in second chances. Good luck to you Thomas Gibson, you will truly be missed from Criminal Minds!

    • Are you people insane? says:

      He already got the second chance after his 1st assault of the assistant director so maybe we don’t let him get a 3rd or 4th chance to hurt another person and you just watch your reruns. Are people effing insane??!! The man is a ticking time bomb but what the hell just as long as he’s still on the show.

  14. Ali says:

    Why is it these types always want to sue somebody when they’re the cause of their own problems! Maybe Rehab would be a better investment of money.

  15. Kiki says:

    So…Mandy Pantikin left and guess what? Criminal Minds went on. Shemar Moore left and guess what? Criminal Minds went on. I watched Thomas Gibson on As The World Turns. I watched him on Dharma and Greg. He will leave Criminal Minds and it will go on because it is an ensemble cast, it still gets ratings, and it plays into the tabloid-like lust of the American public.

    Very few public outcries have got an actor brought back, unless you count AJ Cook and the only thing she did wrong in the eyes of Hollywood was get older and the executive producer responsible is gone. It’s a TV SHOW. FICTION. So, to you “boycotters”: either stop whining or try harder.

    • Jbj says:

      Here, here!

    • Grey’s Anatomy survived the departure of Patrick Dempsey. Gibson isn’t nearly as pivotal to the storyline. People don’t seem to grasp the concept of “ensamble show”. Luckily, they’re the minority.

    • Reality Check says:

      The show is done. The X-Files died after Duchovny left, and this is a far worse situation. Virgil Williams killed the show by being a snitch. He could have worked it out with Thomas (like a real man would), but he has short man’s syndrome and needed poltical payback. His ego is bruised, not his shins … and subtly boasting/gloating on Twitter about the whole situation is pretty sad. Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays the race card through the media (isn’t that the textbook on how you destroy someone’s reputation these days). And, give it rest about “if this happened at my job” nonsense – Hollywood is not a typical workplace (egos, abuse and conflict galore).

      • Angela says:

        Can we stop with this “real man” BS, please? Getting into physical fights is not proof of someone’s true “manhood”, for cripes’ sakes.

        • Reality Check says:

          Sorry, real man BS stuff is kind of important to the narrative. Virgil Williams is a so-called tough guy that went to HR instead of working things out like a normal guy would. Things like this happen and, like it or not, macho BS is a part of life in Hollywood. He could have defused the entire situation, but he didn’t want to. What this guy ultimately did was pathetic – the show’s going to get cancelled and lots of people are going to lose their jobs. But, I bet that delusional egomaniac thinks his writing will save the show.

          • Pedro says:

            A “normal guy” doesn’t hit co-workers to work out problems. Stop comparing what you call “real men” top being a complete idiot with no self-control.

      • Vickie says:

        Right on, brother. I couldn’t agree more.

  16. I’m glad to read these comments. I’ve been sick with so many people defending Gibson’s attitude. I’m happy to see a place where the majority of people condemn it and support the show.

  17. Betty Reed says:

    I see no reason to watch that show anymore without Thomas Gibson and Shamar Moore i’d be married this year I will last much longer Eric Thomas Gibson gone I will not I repeat I will not watch criminal minds

  18. Serena Carter says:

    With Shemar and now Thomas gone why watch Criminal Minds

  19. Fisher says:

    Didn’t watch because I didn’t like him. He needs attitude adjustment….

  20. kirads09 says:

    I imagine, like most employers, at CBS there is a zero tolerance policy for workplace violence, It doesn’t matter if anyone was actually injured. You can be terminated for cause due to violent behavior or even just threatening a fellow employee in most cases. It may work different in the world of television and contracts, I don’t know. If his case is that he was fired illegally, I don’t think he has much of one. Breach of contract on CBS’s part – possibly?

  21. He cannot recoup that pretty paycheck he is missing out on when he has a history of anger management issues. Having worked in Human Resources I can tell you it is usually the people who were dismissed for documented and valid reasons are the first to shout “I am gonna sue!” They are the ones who take no responsibility for their actions and think they have done nothing wrong.

  22. Erika says:

    Noooooo!

  23. A. Slaughter says:

    Maybe it’s time to put the series to bed. I mean, it’s been a great 12 years, but it has to end some time. What are they going to do, chase down unsubs on their rascals?!

    • KLS says:

      The show has been on life-support for a number of years and was a last second renewal for 2016-2017. The EP seems to have some clout so they’ve given her a spinoff and have kept the franchise going. The fact that CBS doesn’t own the show combined with low ratings (and this scandal), may tip the scale toward cancellation at season’s end.

    • kirads09 says:

      Yeah, I think it is time to simply end the series. But please give Matthew Gray Gubler his own series – perhaps a spinoff of Dr Reid’s life “after” the BAU? One of the most underrated underused characters ever. I mean ‘Endgame’ (Season 11 Episode 11) pure brilliance.

  24. Andrea says:

    I agree with others that I think there could be more information here that is important. Against Thomas Gibson is the fact that he previously shoved a producer and had to attend anger management classes. However, I’m bothered by the lack of attention on the producer. Williams has martial arts training—a fact that was well known on the set. If Thomas’ Gibson’s behavior is going to be looked at going back years, then the same should be done with the producer. Not only what was said during this heated exchange, but did the producer ever at any time suggest verbally that he could do harm or injury because of his martial arts skill? Did he ever say anything to Thomas or anyone else just in the context of conversation like “I could break someone’s neck” or something like that? The kick is the outward physical response by Gibson, but I also think a martial arts expert could be verbally threatening without even needing to touch anyone. A heated discussion takes two people. and a discussion is a conversation. In this case, I think the conversation and what was said by both men is a key issue here.

  25. Ange says:

    I think he should pursue all options available to him. And to people bringing up his “history,” I do not find one other altercation a pattern and would you like someone holding something that happened 12 years ago (or any number of years) over your head? Also yes Grey’s survived Dempsey leaving but he is not the primary, Pompeo is. Thomas Gibson is the foundation. The others are great but not the foundation.

    • Cas says:

      This. People are so quick to condemn. This is why innocent people get sentanced for crimes they didn’t committ all the time. Because people believe everything the media says. And isn’t it a well known fact that writers and producers can be real a holes?

      • Angela says:

        No, it is not a “well-known fact” that writers and producers can be a-holes.
        Some can be, sure, but so are plenty of actors, Your point?
        .
        And besides that, so what if they’re a-holes? That still does not justify getting physical with them when they tick somebody off. If an actor has a legit issue with a writer or a producer they need to take it up with someone who can handle the problem, you don’t kick them. I honestly cannot believe this has to be explained to other adults here.
        .
        And your “innocent people get charged” argument doesn’t fly here because there is no question that he did actually kick somebody. That part of the story is not in dispute. Nor is the part about his history of physical altercations.

        • Ann says:

          There are a few people on set who have said Gibson acted in defense of the writer and his actions. Also, it has been widely noted that the writer has made his training well known to those on set and elsewhere.

          • Maxwell says:

            The sources who said Gibson acted in self-defense were quoted as sources close to Gibson. Other reports are also saying staffers including producers and cast members are said to be supporting Williams. We will never really know what happened. Either way, both Williams and Gibson were under investigation by the network. Apparently, investigation into Williams’ involvement is ongoing. One of them kicked the other and he was fired. Sucks for the show, sucks for the fans, but it was the right call to fire him.

          • Angela says:

            There’s other ways to express defense of people that don’t involve getting into physical altercations. Once again, he’s in his 50s. He’s old enough to know better and to find other ways to deal with problems on set. And as has been pointed out over and over and over and over again here, this is not his first time getting physical with somebody. He may well have had every right to be angry with this writer if the guy was being a jerk, that’s fine. But he expressed that anger in an irresponsible manner.
            .
            And so what if the writer went around bragging on his training? That’s…not worthy of being fired? Bottom line is that if he hasn’t actively hit or kicked anyone, then he’s done nothing wrong in that regard. Now, having said that, it does sound like this particular writer has a habit of being rather obnoxious on social media, and may have fueled some of the antagonistic behavior on set. If that’s indeed the case, then I am all for him being investigated and let go as well. But his behavior doesn’t excuse or justify Gibson’s, especially since Gibson already has a few previous issues with causing skirmishes on set. He should’ve known better, and been more careful in how he responded.
            .
            Besides that, if it’s well known that this writer was a boxer/martial arts sort, that makes Gibson kicking him even more dumb. I don’t know about you or anyone else, but logic would tell me that I would want to avoid getting into physical fights with someone with that kind of training.

          • sharon case says:

            I read thomas gibsons account of what happened. thomas had walked away from virgil and was talking to his castmates. virgil was angrily approaching and thomas stated “virgil would of ran right into him if he hadn;t moved and thomas inadvertantly kicked him in the shin while attempting to get away from virgil.

  26. R. M. says:

    This is truly a sad day. Thomas will be missed. The show will fail. Actors are known for their temperament. Get over it and rehire him or the show will fail.

    • Goonie says:

      CBS and ABC know what firing Gibson could possibly mean to the show and it’s ratings. As crazy as their dismissal of Cook and Brewster in 2010 is, the networks are not complete idiots. For a network to fire it’s male lead in one of it’s more successful shows is a big decision and it says a lot about how seriously they take this incident. The CM set is still a workplace and no one can get away with kicking someone in the workplace. No one should be excused from the repercussions of their violent act just because they are temperamental actors. As much as I love Hotch and will miss his character in the show, at this point only Gibson can be blamed for his actions.

      • Ann says:

        You could almost say when JJ and Garcia held out for better pay, the salary for the show skyrocketed to the point where even after Morgan left it was too high. No one can look past the fact that this seemed to happen really quickly in that CBS was waiting for something to happen to cut the total salaries more and try to get a few more years out of the show. I agree with a few that have said there is more to the story.

  27. Jade Afterglow says:

    Omg people are so naive in believing in articles. I will promise you that Virgil Williams instigated all of this for certain reasons. There is so much more to come out. Everyone will see soon.

  28. Kimberly Giberti says:

    If you get rid of Hotchner you might as well cancel the show it won’t make it without him especially if you got rid of Emily and then Morgan if you get rid of hot no one will watch

  29. Rachie says:

    I read somewhere that he was shoved first & responded with a kick. Anyone else know the article I was told about?!

  30. Missy says:

    Hodge is a major Part of the show and after all ready losing Dericks character this is to much they need to Put their big boy Pants on and work this out I’m highly disappointed in CBS over this news even though I love criminal minds I don’t know if I’d keep watching after this he should have been suspended for about 2 shows lost revenue because that hurts worse than anything but to fire 🔥 such a well liked character is just being unaware of the viewer’s feelings because this isn’t in the shows best interest

  31. Elle Jones says:

    I’ve been asking: if Gibson’s behavior on the 11 season show was SO BAD, why are we just now hearing about it? I’ve been searching for other articles that address the so-called “bad” behavior and can’t find anything other than the DUI articles(and btw, S. Moore also seems to have had a DUI while on CM in 2007). Anything I find on the former manager’s alleged lawsuit just sounds bogus and bizarre. Again, if all that stuff was going on wouldn’t something have been written about it before now? I didn’t know anyone in Hollywood, which we all know thrives on gossip, could keep a secret, much less keep it for 11YEARS…hhhuuummm, I think something is rotten in Hollywood and it isn’t TG’s behavior.

  32. Problem is….. They already punished him with the suspension.. Added to that, in the middle of contract negotiations…. Hell, I don’t blame him… See what sticks…

  33. GiGi says:

    BRING HOTCH BACK
    NOHOTCHNOWATCH
    Bottom line the show will not succeed without him.
    He kicked the guy for defending a coworker it’s not right but it’s not worth losing a TV show over. Maybe CBS needs a life and get facts.

  34. James says:

    I support his actions obviously the network failed to keep the personnel issue confidential a given in today’s workplace this litigation pre-discovery phase will explore the issue of purposeful damage the “leak” at the mid-level or corporate level , secondly their human resources botched the whole discipline procedure initially it was two weeks session then the leak then the confirmation which should never have happened at all , then they fire him so I feel it’s justifiable , now he belongs to Aftra the television union if arbitration is inserted in the contract under California law he has to go through the process with his union they launch a coordinated investigation of the incident and post action decisions the union determines if the employer violated the union contract or their own corporate protocols involving matters such as this type of case. If both sides fail to conclude a settlement such as reinstatement of the initial punishment , then they escalate it to arbitration it is like a court hearing in a informal setting with a union lawyer representing the actor at that stage they’ll argue the case for wrongful termination and for reinstatement and compensation at that stage everything is negotiable they can settle and the arbitration judge reviews the deal here is the real question for the actor and union do they seek binding arbitration to where he is made whole right away and or non-binding? Now the key is in any arbitration setting both sides work off a list of arbitration judges a lengthy process each side wants a favorable judge . As for the smart money the actor should use the union option because he is off the hook on legal fees the union pays it’s half for the arbitration now in California the lawyers will advise arbitration because in this state he has to exhaust the contractural process and if arbitration is a snake eyes then he is freed to sue and that is subjective and biased based on what is introduced in the arbitration case which can be used in a public open court room. How do I know about all of this? I had a wrongful termination case and it involved a govt agency did I win? Yes I was reinstated AND compensated and the first employee to beat them in a hundred years seriously of course this means lawsuits filed got no where arbitration did not exist for years and I WON in the preferred employers venue of mitigation in the past arbitration was like clock work in favor of the employer , now that there has been a healthy up ticked retirement or death of those pro-employer retired judges the field has been leveled in my case it didn’t matter of the type of Judge my employer’s case was horrible they violated their own arcane rules and procedures it resulted in a 23 page rebuking of the government . I wish him continued counseling and success I strongly feel he will be made whole at the networks expense they botched it from moment one .

  35. James says:

    I failed to mention in my initial post about the arbitration process are these : selection of a retired Judge and : both sides have to agree on the topics of dispute the issues to address that portion of arbitration is very important because the topic can be leveraged in a legal civil suit action . I do not approve of his actions at all what he did was out of line in the area of professionalism as an actor what I do support I support him only in the context of a very bad set of decisions and actions the > leak was for sure a huge monetary hit move against him as well as his street cred I will end this on a kryptic note was the turn over of the cast because of him? Did he create a subtle hostile work environment ? Arbitration or lawsuit the parties involved will look into that as well his situation is dire on the career level of things for him if he was a total jerk.

  36. Andrea says:

    Keeping in mind that Twitter is well, Twitter, and these weren’t media links, I just read tweets that referenced that Thomas was defending/supporting Paget Brewster after Mr. Williams made some inappropriate remarks and things escalated from there. Not sure that any of that is true, but I still believe that this situation isn’t as cut and dry as one man kicking another.

  37. ROBERT says:

    Apparently Williams is a martial arts trained guy that aggressively came after Gibson Gibson reacted. It has also been said that Williams has an ego the size of a death star, and can’t see past that.
    Bottom line let’s see what addituonal facts and information come out with the investigation and lawsuit.

  38. jen says:

    I don’t know how many jobs allow you to strike a coworker. If you put your hands on someone in anger. You are done. No second chances and certainly no further grounds for a lawsuit of any kind.

  39. Paco says:

    Looks like they’re going to have to drag Gibson off the show kicking and screaming…

  40. Ugh, I’m so sick of seeing posts of “Zero tolerance for workplace violence. Period.” and “He assaulted a co-worker, firing him was the only option!” BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH. When did a non-injury causing “kick” (which, unless it was some kind of stellar roundhouse, was probably defensive rather than offensive, but I’m only making a REASONABLE guess) become OMG THE WORST FELONY ASSAULT CASE EVER ALDKJFLSKDFJ OLKJF !!!!!1ONE!!!!!1!!

    People who act like this is some kind of monumental Act of Serious Violence by a Disturbed Individual WITH A HISTORY *GASP* need to take a long walk off a short pier.

    This was a personality conflict that apparently got *barely* physical and ended with the complete TANKING of a flagship show. Someone effed up, but my hunch is that the only one who wants to see Season 12 be the best it can be for the fans is Thomas Gibson.

    I’m done with people acting like this is a freaking violation of the Geneva Convention.

  41. Mindi McCown says:

    Bring Thomas( Hotch ) Gibson back and hire a bouncer. Who knows if writer Virgil Williams wasn’t aggravating and antagonizing Gibson on? Maybe wanting an incident with
    Gibson to report. Gibson would be a better target since he’s been punished for pushing a producer years ago. Most of first stories allege that Willams was egging Gibson on and pretending to kicking or punching him. Mandy P left after 2 seasons because he didn’t realize a show named Criminal Minds might be about just that? Thomas Gibson, Shemar Moore, Joe Mantegna kept me watching.

  42. Donna Drury says:

    Yes, the kicking incident on with regards to Thomas Gibson wad childish, but he has BEEN the face of Criminal Minds, the one constant. I think he should be allowed to finish out the series, especially with Shamar Moores departure . PLEASE GIVE GIBSON BACK HIS JOB, he is HOTCH,

  43. Deborah says:

    Thomas needs to sue after being fired. I’d like the CBS executives phone numbers so we could constantly blow up their phones until Thomas is back.

  44. Jen says:

    Well they already lost one great cast member when they lost Shemar Moore now they fire Thomas Gibson rating going down the drain with this a faithful fan 😠😠😠😒😒😞😞😞

  45. Debbi says:

    I am upset that grown men cannot deal with a situation like this in an adult manner! First Shemar Moore leaves and now they have fired Hotch! I don’t condone physical violence, but this, I feel, could have been dealt with in a totally different manner. Suspension or fine or both. Not to just up and get rid of one of the original actors that helped make this show what it was. I miss Derek and his playful rhetoric with Penelope, but have still watched the show being a faithful fan. Not so sure I will now! Grow up directors! Especially after Hotch asked for another director to be called in.

  46. Fay Mead says:

    I have watched Criminal Minds since day one. I will never watch it again if Thomas Gibson is gone. I am very upset. There has to be a better way of handling such a delicate situation.

  47. Hana says:

    I don’t care whether the kicking is a felony, an assault, a misdemeanor, or whatever else the rest of you are arguing about. The only thing I care about is that Criminal Minds does not exist without Aaron Hotchner, and therefore, Thomas Gibson. No Hotch, No Watch. The End.

  48. alex s says:

    Só sad. He is my favourite charácter as he symbolises the gentleman, inteligence, and he is also good looking. A man with values.
    The group of the serie, is a great example of companiership, good behaviour and moral values that are disapearing from society making more and more people feel lost and lonely.
    Mr. Thomas kicking is never the answer to anything. If we go so far, that means that we allowed arguments get to far.
    Sad, sad, sad

  49. patty nobriga says:

    i cant believe without him the show has lost it please bring him
    back

  50. Traci Foster says:

    Thomas Gibson, Shemar Moore, A.J. Cook, Paget Brewster, and the rest of the cast of Criminal Minds made the show the hit it is today. You have continued to cause so much stress for the cast, and one by one, replace them. But as I have said along with other fans, I will no longer sit back and watch Criminal Minds, You have wrecked the show by replacing the ones who made the show. I also believe you planned to cause the arguement with Thomas Gibson just to get him fired.