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Defiance

We’ve got questions, and you’ve (maybe) got answers! With another week of TV gone by, we’re lobbing queries left and right about shows including Defiance, Game of Thrones, Finding Carter and Mistresses!

1 | Are Defiance’s Omec giving any Star Trek fans out there an Andorians vibe? Also, did not one producer question the optics of killing off in one fell swoop the show’s minority family in the same episode you bring on two black actors as ruthless, purple-skinned villains?

2 | Is it too big of a coincidence that Orphan Black‘s Castor and Leda original is Mrs. S’ mom? And does Cosima no longer have her own apartment, or is she just that into Shay?

3 | Why are the AFI Tributes (e.g. Steve Martin) sooooo choppily edited that there’s no sense any of the audience reactions/guffaws are legit?

4 | Which of Game of ThronesGame of Thronesmany cliffhangers was most frustrating? (We vote for Sansa and Theon jumping to…?) And who do we have to bribe to get a web series (that, naturally, would air during hiatus) about Ser Jorah and Daario Naharis’ road trip?

5 | The twist ending in Veep‘s finale totally means we’ll be getting a lot more of Hugh Laurie’s Tom James next season, right?! (Fingers crossed!)

6 | Did the Silicon Valley finale prove that in addition to being a first-rate comedy, it’s also one of TV’s mostPenny Dreadful suspenseful, edge-of-your-seat thrill rides?

7 | Lovely as Penny Dreadful’s key art always is, may we suggest that for next season, the monster mash replace its elegant portraits with more lurid images, like this shot of Ethan from “Little Scorpion”?

8 | We know Salem’s Isaac upset the congregation at George’s funeral with his accusatory speech, but shouldn’t someone — anyone! — have said, “By the way, what’s with bringing a dead girl in here?”

9 | We get that nasty conflict is “good TV,” but why did none of the UnReal crew step in to break up Anna and Grace’s altercation once it got physical?

10 | Why did Devious Maids saddle firecracker Naya Rivera with the blandest, least fleshed-out character in the show’s three-season history? And when it comes to Rosie’s triangle, are you Team Spence or Team Ernesto?

11 | Doesn’t The Bachelorette‘s Nick Viall have the most punchable face on television?

12 | Is it too early to hand the So You Think You Can Dance Season 12 trophy to Jim Nowakowski, based on his jaw-dropping ballet audition alone?

Major Crimes13 | Why does The Fosters keep saddling Brandon with terrible female characters?

14 | Isn’t the point of Major Crimes’ Rusty having his own web series to save this “Alice” storyline from glomming screen time?

15 | What were the odds that Proof’s rule-breaking surgeon would employ in the premiere the exact same Unauthorized! saline-for-blood tranfusion seen in CBS’ Code Black trailer?

16 | What were the odds that Tyrant would employ in its premiere the exact same pretend-to-execute-the-hooded-prisoner ruse seen this week on American Odyssey?

17 | So not even Finding Carter‘s Elizabeth — a detective — cares that a high school student is drinking a beer in front of her?

18 | Between Jeb!, Trump and Rachel Dolezal, are we positive that Saturday Night Live can’t throw a show together for this weekend?

19 | Is it possible that Mistresses might be (gulp!) more interesting with Jennifer Esposito’s gale-force Calista than it was with Alyssa Milano’s Savi?Mistresses Also, was Karen hitting a Kentucky Derby soiree after church, or was her ginormous hat yet another symptom of her chronic Hot Mess Syndrome?

20 | Though The Astronaut Wives Club technically reads “fine” as a title, don’t you want put an apostrophe in there somewhere? Is the retro sudser’s use of contemporary music a kicky, inspired choice… or just a way to get around paying for the rights to hits of the ’50s and ’60s? And is the pairing of Yvonne Strahovski and Wilson Bethel almost too much pretty to handle?

21 | Didn’t Complications’ Dr. Ellison kinda take a foolish gamble lying to his wife about his whereabouts while on the phone at a noisy gun range?

Total_Recall22 | If it was Brian Williams’ goal to win back the public’s trust in that pompous, deluded, borderline-crazy Today show interview, did he fail miserably? And when Williams said he was a victim of “false memories,” did you picture this?

23 | When Lifetime inevitably makes its Rachel Dolezal movie, should they cast a black woman or a white woman in the lead role?

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42 Comments
  1. A says:

    Jon snow is going to come back & be immune to ice & white walkers like dany is immune to fire.
    & how come tvline missed The Comeback’s season 3 renewal?

  2. Being anything other than white-skinned should not be a shield/excuse against being killed off, come on.

  3. Cosima hasn’t had her own apartment for awhile now. She was staying at Felix’s before she shacked up with Shay.

  4. Coal says:

    The Orphan Black Ms S plot twist bothers me too. Ah well I guess they say there is no such thing as coincidence, but really ?

  5. JA903 says:

    22. That’s exactly what I thought of!!! 😂
    23. Too funny for words…😀

  6. Wordsmith says:

    1) I could see the Andorian comparison for the Omec, but at first glance, all I can think is Drow. any other D&D players with me on this?

  7. Alicia L. says:

    2. I’m not really surprised about Mrs. S’s mom just because she seems such a part of what is going on. As for Cosima my assumption is before the season finale last season she was staying at Delphine’s apartment which we never saw. Cosima’s original apartment was in Minnesota. An even bigger question is whether Delphine was talking about herself when she was talking about her friend from boarding school not committing suicide in the bath tub correctly and how she would use her medical knowledge to torture Shay?

  8. Kate says:

    1. I know the end bump indicated the Omec have world domination plans (how different is that from the Voltan collective though?) but I don’t know that I would classify them as villains just yet. First, I think they are going to be bonding with Nolan and Irissa and by extension Amanda and despite the girl’s initial taste, I am going to wonder if the Omec maybe consider the humans to be potential allies. Like, let us live here with you, we will fix your planet and rid it of all these other alien species. And given the humans position right now, its something to listen to.

    2. All sort of science types will jump on you now because the whole original thing is actually something that can happen. Also, Cosima doesn’t actually live wherever this show is supposed to be taking place. She was in school somewhere bus distance away and arrived in wherever they are (Toronto? I think we think Toronto) at the end of season 1 and hasn’t left. She was staying with Felix most of the time otherwise, which is where she should probably be returning. Its currently empty.

    4. I think I agree with you about which of the cliff hangers was so, well, roll your eyes was Sansa and Theon’s. All the others can have some time pass (Jon’s it would seem necessary for his body to disappear for season six) but this one requires either a review or it has to be immediate and then its connected to Brienne’s too (I feel like I am one of the few who don’t think Stannis is dead basically because D&D couldn’t get a straight answer out of GRRM)

    8. That wasn’t George’s funeral, that was just a regular town meeting.

    17. I think a kid who was just orphaned is given some lee way. Plus, I know for the case purposes they are now claiming that the show is in Virginia, its a Canadian show. Gabe might be 18.

  9. Amy says:

    #1: Graham Green is Native American, not Latino. But the question still applies.

    • Lizo says:

      I was so annoyed with this. Hey, tvline, if you’re too lazy to look up the ethnicity of an actor, you shouldn’t be writing it. To label the family as “Latino” is an act of eraser – you know there are more races than white, black and Latino right?! And then to strike that out and put “ethnic” WTF is that?!! Too lazy to look it up, so just lump them all into the “non-white” category of “ethic”. Graham Green is a very famous First Nations actor, do him the respect of recognizing his identity.
      .
      This was a racist micro aggression tvline, and I expect better from you. And in a editorial comment about how racist the show was in their decision making, you compounded the racism.

    • Matt Webb Mitovich says:

      I apologize for that error; being “of an age,” I have enjoyed Mr. Greene’s work dating back to “Northern Exposure” and “Dances With Wolves,” and am well aware of his own nationality. The McCawley family’s ethnicity has never been made clear (I do not believe?), and I made the mistake of denoting them as Latino. (I perhaps have the OUAT/Nicole Munoz/Lily brouhaha lodged in my noggin.)

      The text has been amended. But thank you for seeing the point of the question through my clumsy wording.

  10. Allison says:

    OMG, #23 made me laugh out loud!! I can’t wait for that “controversy” :)

    #21 – Even though we didn’t see too much of them actually together in the first ep, I kind of liked Yvonne and Wilson together

  11. LADY_in_MD says:

    As far as Naya goes on devious maids I didn’t understand the point of her character I think Valentina is more likable and would have been better to have her stay around then bring in a new character
    Since I find spence creepy especially with the whole porn thing I am on team Ernesto! Plus he is HOT!

    • dan says:

      The whole show this season is bland. The Powells and Genvieve are the funniest characters, while the maids are dull. I’m not into Rosie’s love triangle (the show rushed Ernesto’s reveal), Carmen always has the worst storylines, Marisol creating a maid service is a stretch for that character (isn’t she a college professor and published writer?), and the pregnancy plot is boring since the father is dead and the boyfriend left. I expected Naya’s character to create some excitement, but instead we get a mystery about characters who haven’t been on the show for two years. Not sure why I’m still watching.

      • LADY_in_MD says:

        The powells keep me going but I agree with you the love triangle is not necessary and I don’t know why they built up Javier only to have him leave I would have liked it better if he stayed
        I’m only still watching to figure out this killing storyline cause I thought it was Michael that was dead until he came back last episode
        And where is marisols son didn’t she spend a whole season trying to prove he was innocent? And yes her staring the agency is a big stretch!

  12. Kim R says:

    Wow! I only watch 2 of the shows mentioned. I wanted to know if, on Rizzoli and Isles this week, Kate’s sister was surprised to find her alive and well and working as an ME in Boston? ;)

  13. Doug says:

    #14 Why is Rusty still on Major Crimes at all? The show comes to a ridiculously uninteresting halt whenever he comes onscreen. I’m wearing out the fast-forward button on my DVR. I’m almost rooting for Stroh to come back just to take Rusty out.

    • Bella says:

      I probably wouldn’t go that far, but I agree that Rusty needs to be much more in the background than he is now.

  14. Mr. Tran K says:

    The “death” of Jon Snow had people very upset even on Twitter and all over social media.

    • A.M says:

      4. GoT ‘s biggest cliffhanger for me was Jon Snow hands down as well, after the red wedding the main reason I continued watching was Jon Snow coz the book readers told me he had a destiny to fulfil…and now this (starting to well up again)…I’m hoping he comes back in Kit Harrington’s body and none of that wolf theory!
      Yes please to the Jorah & Daario web series.
      .
      19. I have to admit I love Calista already and dare I say it, she seems like she’ll be more fun than Savi.
      Is it wrong that I’m already shipping Karen (our-beloved-hot-mess) with the hot doctor who has the ill wife she’s helping out! And please oh dear lord, can April and Lucy just get along for once..every time Lucy is onscreen I cringe and ffwd. That mom/daughter r/ship is painfully annoying to watch.
      .
      23. Lol ok surely if we can accept transgenders, should we not learn to accept Rachel seeing as she identifies with being black…whatever that means

      • tvfan says:

        I don’t miss Savi (I feel a little guilty, but she was hard to root for). Love the new rich designer (Jennifer). Yes he is a mess.

  15. Sara says:

    #2 I said the EXACT same thing to my friend when we were watching it. Though now that I think of it, she’s been living with Felix, she might not actually have a place.

  16. Dude says:

    10. AMEN! I’m not sure if they just gave up on developing her character once they found out she was pregnant but Blanca is such a waste of Naya’s talents.

  17. Mary Ann says:

    #20, Wilson Bethel was barely seen in that episode. I sure hope he gets some airtime in upcoming episodes. He was my favorite on Hart of Dixie. And wow, could Desmond Harrington BE any skinnier?

  18. brandydanforth81 says:

    13.Ikr.Brallie all the way!
    9. they should’ve
    10.Blancas not boring.Team Spence

  19. Kristina says:

    9. They didn’t tell Anna the second they knew her FATHER was in the ICU, and you’re wondering why they didn’t have the good judgment to break up a fight?

  20. William says:

    10. I actually like Blanca compared to the annoying characters that were introduced last year (Nicholas, Opal, etc.). I’m going to be disappointed if her character dies.

    19. Calista definitely has a lot of potential. I’m glad that the writers are taking their time to flesh out her character rather than put her at the forefront of everything.

  21. DarkDefender says:

    2. WAY too big a coincidence, but I still did not see it coming (which makes up for it); and I had the feeling Cosima left her apt when she got sick and has been pretty much crashing at Fee’s loft.
    4. Most frustrating? Sansa and Theon’s leap was more of a weak solution. The most satisfying is definitely going to be Cercei and her revenge tour next season.. and Poor, Jon Snow. He really did know nothing.
    12. I am not sure of the dancer’s names – I only watch occasionally – but the guy who did the ballet routine and was literally lighter than air – he needs to win or at least get a gig with a major ballet company. That guy defied gravity.
    18. Like shooting fish in a barrel, right? Seems JB, DT & RD all had perfect timing, don’t ya think?
    23. RD should totally be played by Sandra Oh. It would work on like a gazillion levels.

  22. erninlow says:

    Oh my gosh, #11 is the best question ever! And yes, he most definitely does.

  23. Maxsmom says:

    14. 4 seasons and Rusty’s presence is still a head scratcher, that said, my love for Detective Sanchez grew exponentially with the second episode of season 4 and he was already my favorite. I don’t want to jinx it but I am happy to see Brandon Barash sticking around.

  24. Tom says:

    1 | Are Defiance’s Omec giving any Star Trek fans out there an Andorians vibe? Also, did not one producer question the optics of killing off in one fell swoop the show’s minority family in the same episode you bring on two black actors as ruthless, purple-skinned villains?
    ~
    DUDE! You’re acknowledging Star Trek! AND JEFFERY COMBS! Good job!
    ~
    5 | The twist ending in Veep‘s finale totally means we’ll be getting a lot more of Hugh Laurie’s Tom James next season, right?! (Fingers crossed!)
    ~
    One can only hope. Hugh Laurie needs to do as much comedy as possible. I now kinda want to go rewatch Blackadder Goes Forth
    ~
    6 | Did the Silicon Valley finale prove that in addition to being a first-rate comedy, it’s also one of TV’s most suspenseful, edge-of-your-seat thrill rides?
    ~
    I was definitely concerned about whether or not things would get deleted. AND THAT ENDING! Can’t wait to see what’s coming.
    ~
    18 | Between Jeb!, Trump and Rachel Dolezal, are we positive that Saturday Night Live can’t throw a show together for this weekend?
    ~
    You saw last season right? Let’s just get Tina Fey and Amy Poehler to do a Weekend Update. And bring in Seth Meyers for REALLY segment.
    ~
    20 | Though The Astronaut Wives Club technically reads “fine” as a title, don’t you want put an apostrophe in there somewhere? Is the retro sudser’s use of contemporary music a kicky, inspired choice… or just a way to get around paying for the rights to hits of the ’50s and ’60s? And is the pairing of Yvonne Strahovski and Wilson Bethel almost too much pretty to handle?
    ~
    I see no need for the apostrophe(‘), but that’s me. I haven’t seen the episode yet, all I know is I flinched every time I heard THAT song in the promos. I don’t like that song to the point I don’t even really know it’s name because I haven’t been bothered to find out.
    ~
    23 | When Lifetime inevitably makes its Rachel Dolezal movie, should they cast a black woman or a white woman in the lead role?
    ~
    Asian. Amy Okuda from The Guild.

  25. Tahoe Mike says:

    4) Arya! I just can’t see her staying blind.

  26. m3rcnate says:

    1) No and thank goodness. What a Social Justice Warrior idea to have. The day producers have in their thinking; “Wait we can’t kill him/her/them, they are our minority characters! We HAVE to have a diverse cast or else we are racist!” so they force the story tellers (writers, show-runner) to do something else, is the day TV story telling is dead. What happened to the McCawley family happened for a reason in regards to the story, and we are going to see the results of their murders in this season (and potentially beyond).
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    4) Most frustrating GOT cliffhanger? I’m going to have to go with Jon Snow being stabbed and bleeding out. A LOT of characters were left up in the air (Sansa & Theon, did Brianne kill Stannis? Will Jon Snow die (and if so will the Red Priestess revive him? What will happen to Danny? What happened to Aria?) but Jon Snow is the most frustrating because I believe his character arc since the pilot has been the most important overall along with Danny & Tyrion, i feel like they are the three leads of this Fire & Ice epic story.
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    6) “Most” suspenseful? No, but its suspenseful and fun.

  27. I don’t understand how the Bachelorettes keep falling for Nick Viall. His face must be imminently less-punchable in person…

  28. P.S.L. says:

    No. 18. Maya Rudolph would kill it as Rachel Dolezal!

  29. Mike says:

    For #23: neither. Cast a kiwi. Half the time nobody can figure out what race to typecast New Zealanders as anyway (see Cliff Curtis and Gina Bellman as examples).

  30. Dan says:

    I enjoyed the last episode of Silicon Valley, with the twist of them getting hits and trying to keep the Condor egg site up. It was funny how they felt no empathy to what was going on, and only cared about, well, keeping the site up. But I think the whole second season has floundered. It felt like they didn’t know what to do with Erlich, they brought in a female coder who seemed great, and was given nothing to do, and Richard made one bad decision after another. Which is fine, but … he just wasn’t a very proactive character. Even winning the trial was because of a technicality that he had nothing to do with, didn’t even discover. (Spoiler) Taking the company away from him seems like a great business decision. That being said, I’ll probably keep watching, just because it’s still amusing.

  31. Aeol says:

    Jim’s ballet routine might have been the most exquisite dancing I’ve ever seen on sytycd. I was holding my breath the entire time and it brought tears to my eyes!!