Flash @ PaleyFest: Impossible Mystery Solved, a Big Comics Storyline Tease, Bart Allen/Wally West Talk and More

The Flash Spoilers Black Canary

Leading into The Flash‘s PaleyFest Q&A on Saturday, a teaser reel included Laurel Lance’s introduction to Cisco (during his and Det. Joe West’s Arrow crossover). Upon learning she is the Canary, the S.T.A.R. Labs fanboy discloses his crush on the costumed crimefighter: “I love you!”

Rest assured, the ensuing panel discussion — featuring stars Grant Gustin, Tom Cavanagh, Jesse L. Martin, Candice Patton, Danielle Panabaker, Carlos Valdes and Rick Cosnett, plus EPs Greg Berlanti and Andrew Kreisberg — offered up additional provocative teases for the final stretch of Season 1 (and beyond), including:

* Kreisberg acknowledged that Episode 9, in which we first spied Reverse Flash — including as he seemingly fought himself aka Dr. Wells — presented “a bunch of things that do seem impossible.” But “very soon,” he said, viewers will learn “how you were able to see what you saw.”

* Patton speculated that if and when iris learns Barry’s secret, “It’s going to be a huge sense of betrayal,” given that her father also kept her in the dark. “It’s going to change everything.” Speaking of the West family, the producers said that an “amazing” upcoming scene between Joe and Harrison will touch on the mystery of Iris’ mother, a topic that will be “deal with more directly in subsequent seasons.”

* Another burning question — Who is feeding and otherwise tending to the prisoners in the Pipeline? — will be answered imminently, as the S.T.A.R. Labs team also is forced to confront their morally questionable role as “judge and jury” in the metahumans’ entrapment.

* Asked if the CW hit might ever dive into one of DC Comics’ grander arcs a la Crisis on Infinite Earths, Kreisberg revealed, “There’s a fairly big Flash storyline from the comics that we’re going to tackle in the future.”

* Similarly, might Flash “family” members such as Wally West or Bart Allen ever surface on the show? “That’s our hope,” Berlanti said, though no sooner than Season 2, he said.

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  1. CBWBDK1 says:

    I hope it’s the Flashpoint paradox storyline.

  2. Dominique says:

    “upon realizing that their visitor is the Black Canary, Cisco discloses his crush on the costumed crimefighter: “I love you!””
    too bad sara was the canary first. i hate how characters are already seeming to forget this. laurel’s been the canary for a lousy couple of weeks, sara was her for years. pretty sure cisco is fanboying over the wrong woman.

    • Jen says:

      Cisco would have no clue that Laurel isn’t the original Black Canary

      • Matt Webb Mitovich says:

        It’s late, I’m tired, I don’t recall: Did Cisco not know the murder he and Caitlin were helping solve during the crossover was Original Canary’s?

        • Andy says:

          Yes, they do. When Felicity asks Caitlin to test the blood on the arrowheads, Caitlin asks something to the effect of whose murder it came from and Felicity says “The Canary’s.”

          • Mar says:

            Cisco and Caitlin both knew they were working on Canary’s killer, and they must have heard that a new Black Canary has arisen from the news media. It’s also been established that Caitlin talks to Laurel in scenes that we don’t see.

            Everyone on Arrow has been taking turns over the past 5 episodes telling Laurel how wonderful she is. Now they’ve moved on to the Flash cast doing it too.

          • JC1 says:

            Where was it established that Caitlin talks to Laurel?

        • Isobel says:

          I don’t think so, they were just working out who the murderer was, not the victim

          • Airsay says:

            That’s so cool about Caitlin and Laurel’s talks, where was it established? I’ve read somewhere (DC site I think) that now Clarissa Stein and Caitin meet for coffee once a week.

            Also, Felicity says that the blood sample is from the Canary’s murder so yep, Caitlin and Cisco know the victim. Flash 108.

      • Boston2AZ says:

        All he’d have to do is watch them. One knows what she’s doing, the other doesn’t. Not difficult to tell them apart.

      • JC1 says:

        He was right there when Felicity and Caitlin were talking about “Canary’s murder”. He came over to Starling City with Caitlin when she came to get the sample. I’m sure he knows that the first Canary is dead.

    • LOL says:

      You only care so much about this point because of some tired hatred for the character so who cares? NBD and it’s also possible he only recently discovered Black Canary so he could conceivably have a crush on her.

    • ndixit says:

      Get over yourself. Sara was not even a known hero in the public, so the Black Canary that Cisco has a crush on is Laurel. So he is fanboying over the right woman. Try to separate your personal feelings from facts.

    • Carla Krae says:

      On the show, Sara was The Canary. Laurel is The Black Canary. 2 different aliases!

  3. Georgia Madman says:

    Let Flash keep Laurel. She and Iris can commiserate about their lot in life.

    • Nim says:

      Laurel is a part of The Arrow. Get over it! She’s not going anywhere and neither is Iris on the Flash. And if you bring up the fact that she died in the comics, just remember she came back!

    • Kim&Bey says:

      Oh no please I’m enjoying Flash…Iris is tolerable unlike Laurel

    • Me says:

      Their “lot” in life? You mean the loves of Oliver and Barry’s lives? Yeah, the should talk.

    • herman1959 says:

      Oh NO! Keep Laurel on Arrow where she belongs. And while we’re at it, let’s not overdue the crossovers. I know it helps Arrows ratings, but I’m a real Flash fan, and some of the Arrow meaness is starting to crossover into The Flash posts…please stop.

      • JC1 says:

        Cisco and Joe are going to Arrow. That’s where Cisco and Laurel meet. Laurel’s not coming to Flash.

      • MKR says:

        thank you for saying this, but keep all arrow characters on that show, especially felicity, flash is doing graet on it´s on and it´s characters. let´s keep it that way, maybe oliver can stop every now and again, but that´s about it. that´s what i wish for anyway.

  4. m3rcnate says:

    These things are so funny, yeah there are some nuggets of fun but overall its ‘vamping” and “let me talk around that question so you get no real answer”…and all the fan questions are “Can you clarify _____?” the reply is “No, you will find out” or “Will you guys do ______?” the reply is “we cant say, but that sounds fun!” and “why did ___ do ___ to ____?” the reply is “you’ll find out soon”.

  5. JohnHasADHD says:

    Really folks? The person who asked the question never read Crisis on Infinite Earths did they? Red Sky, flash missing, hello…that’s crisis on infinite earths in the pilot.

  6. Calliope says:

    Whoops – Flash is only on season one – it’s Arrow that’s on season 3!

  7. Chris says:

    If Dr. Wells was fighting with himself as the Reverse Flash, then why did the RF avoid attacking Eddie Thawne? Is Greg Berlanti now not making Eddie the Zoom character, or any other interation of RF?

    • Matt Webb Mitovich says:

      Hmm, I wouldn’t rule that out just yet. Cosnett seemed to have something he realllly wanted to say at the panel, but couldn’t.

  8. Drew says:

    Okay, just to clarify… Sara was The Canary and Laurel is Black Canary, right? People seem to use them interchangeably (mostly in comments) and it gets confusing. So Sara isn’t the original Black Canary. Laurel is a similar but different hero, like Red Arrow would be… If he wasn’t Arsenal. :)
    Anyway, I am a big Wally West fan, so it will be cool to see him. I dislike that they’ve replaced him in the new comics universe with a different person who has the same name… But I guess we will see what they do with him on this show.

    • Matt Webb Mitovich says:

      Good Q; I have changed the reference above to simply Canary for now. (I myself have avoided using Black Canary until she is regularly called that on the show. Funny, the producers in interviews will sometimes say Black Canary, and I’m like, “No one on the show has called her that yet.”)

      • Drew says:

        On the CW’s site, there is an image from “Canaries” that credits Caity as Canary and Katie as Black Canary… So I guess that is a somewhat official answer, though the show hasn’t drawn a clear distinction.

      • murley says:

        I feel like a bigger deal will be made about her being called Black Canary. Much like it will be a big deal for Oliver to be called Green Arrow and probably won’t happen until near the end of the series.

      • Luis says:

        Quentin actually referred to Laurel as “Black Canary” in the episode where she confessed her Sara deception

  9. Joey Padron says:

    Good scoop from panel. Excited for the show to return on Tuesday!

  10. Rick Katze says:

    Find the people all referring back to the comic byline amusing. Get over it. They are going to do their thing. Some characters we will see but there is no guarantee that they will follow the comic byline. Yhey are showing that some things will change and some will be the same. Much more interested to see where they go and how the three shows next year will interact.

  11. JC1 says:

    So….Laurel is not actually appearing on The Flash after all, am I reading that correctly? Joe and Cisco are going over to Arrow, but Laurel is not coming over to The Flash.

  12. tonnie says:

    Wait why would that play a Arrow clip during a Flash teaser. Everyone was assuming that Laurel was gonna be on the flash and somehow getting her Canary cry.

    • Matt Webb Mitovich says:

      It was quite confusing, yes. But apparently Jesse L Martin and Carlos Valdes are visiting ARROW.

  13. Airsay says:

    Such a cool panel! Finally some answers about the Pipeline’s jail (and it was so nice to see that even the cast talks about that issue a lot, they even invented a character that does everything, Gunther is our man, don’t fire him Caitlin)

    About the trailer… wow. Eddie’s scene with the two cops makes me think of his little backstory in the season 0 comics, during the Freak Show I think, something about a dark secret from his past… Or it could just be Gorilla Grodd doing some mental tricks.

    Anyway it doesn’t matter, everything they do, they do it right so I’m not worried.

  14. Gerald says:

    What about Eddie? Is there any chance they might give him an actual storyline?

  15. hornacek says:

    “… will touch on the mystery of Iris’ mother …”

    I hope he means “create the mystery of Iris’ mother” because up until now there is no existing mystery about Iris’ mother. She’s dead. That’s all there is. There is no mystery about her

  16. Luis says:

    The Crisis was referred to in Episode 1 – the 2024 newspaper Wells reads at the end of the episode make a red skies reference – straight out of Crisis