ABC Boss Takes Blame for Wonderland Blunder, Hints at Racier Revenge Ahead

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132937_GROUP_FINALr2Once Upon a Time in Wonderland had no business being on Thursday night.

At the Television Critics Association winter press tour Friday, ABC entertainment president Paul Lee expressed regret that he didn’t stick to his original plan and air the spin-off on Sundays at midseason, bridging the gap between the fall and spring runs of Once Upon a Time.

“I should’ve done that,” he said. “In retrospect, I think it would’ve done better there and I should’ve stuck with the earlier idea. I totally take responsibility for that.” A decision on a second season is TBD.

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Other quick hits from ABC’s exec session…

* “Revenge is a self-starter” regardless of lead-in,” noted Lee. In its new timeslot, they “can take the handcuffs off” and “make a 10 o’clock show.”

* “It did take us a little bit of time to find our sea legs” and strike the right balance between the procedural and the mythology, said Lee of Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’s sluggish start creatively.

* Lee suggested quickly-cancelled Lucky 7 might’ve fared better at 8 pm. (My response: Nope!)

* Mind Games will replace DOA Killer Women beginning Tuesday, Feb. 25. New drama series Black Box premieres Thursday, April 24 at 10/9c, replacing Scandal (which is wrapping early due to Kerry Washington’s pregnancy). Lastly, the new cycle of Dancing With the Stars bows Monday, March 17.

* The network has ordered another Toy Story special, Toy Story That Time Forgot, to air in December.

* Body of Proof was cancelled because “we didn’t think it would grow.”



Comments (178)

  • Wonderland would have done fine if it was good. It wasn’t.

    Comment by Mark – January 17, 2014 10:36 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • wrong. its an amazing show.

      Comment by hannah – January 17, 2014 10:40 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Wrong. It’s awful and the CGI is even worse than the one in the original show.

        Comment by AB – January 17, 2014 10:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • The CGI is GAWDawful, which I think affects people’s judgment of the entire show. In many other ways it’s enjoyable; I think it doesn’t know what it is (a family show? A dramedy? Something darker like OUAT?). But definitely the time slot was a killer.

          Comment by Cass – January 17, 2014 10:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • The fact that no one wanted it was the killer. How many people really thought OUAT needed a spin-off? Especially one that was unconnected to the show entirely.

            Comment by dude – January 17, 2014 11:58 AM PDT  
          • Just wait for OUAT in Oz. They are really going to screw that one up.

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            Comment by Ourhy4104 – January 17, 2014 03:13 PM PDT  
        • I agree. It looks like something that was poorly made back in the early 90s.

          Comment by James – January 17, 2014 02:47 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Let me guess you love stupid cartoon TV like King of the Hill and The Simpsons….what a WASTE OF AIR TIME!

          Comment by Suzan – March 28, 2014 12:26 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Agreed. I really enjoyed it! But I wouldn’t have minded they just added Alice and Jafar into the regular Once Upon a Time show.

        Comment by james – January 17, 2014 10:59 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Oh my goodness!! No Jafar please he was a bit overkill unless he came back a jeanie. Ad for the rest of the characters they would be great to add them in to O.U.A.T. I am a faithful watcher and can’t wait for each new week.Please ddon’t cancel that show.

          Comment by teeri – April 4, 2014 02:42 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • They have already cancelled it

            Comment by Sarahliz – April 4, 2014 04:21 AM PDT  
      • I think Wonderland should’ve been 12-13 episodes instead of 22. I struggled with liking it at first, but it has gotten better. I hated the RQ at first, because I wanted someone amazing like Regina, but now I get that she’s not supposed to be evil like Regina, just a regular girl who wanted a crown. Jafar is the real villain. If they stuck with the original plan, the show would’ve had a better, tighter story.

        Comment by Mikael – January 21, 2014 12:03 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I loved the show too,,!

        Comment by Ann Schmitt – January 21, 2014 06:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I looooove this show I think some people have should have an imagination and listen to the story not the ggraffics.

          Comment by ashley – February 2, 2014 11:56 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • If I wanted to use my imagination and listen to the story, I would read a book.. TV/films are all about the visual and graphics… making the stories come alive before your very eyes! And when it came to Wonderland, it felt cheap, shotty and felt like it was more-or-less like an afterthought – like it was just thrown together. It really affected my desire, as the viewer to really care..

            Comment by Mable – February 16, 2014 08:05 AM PDT  
      • I agree. I like it.

        Comment by Tina – February 19, 2014 07:20 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I loved this shows. They better have a second season at least because they can’t end it with Will becoming a Jinn.

        Comment by Jessica – March 5, 2014 08:33 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I love this show. It is so much better then Once Upon a Time. They better make a second season because they can’t end it with Will turning into a Jinn and leaving it at that.

        Comment by Jessica – March 5, 2014 08:36 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • oops wrote that twice my bad

          Comment by Jessica – March 5, 2014 08:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Please tell the makers of Once Upon a Time in Wonderland, And please not betrayal. and what about under the Bubble?Im so tired of all the other idiot shows, that you guys think is funny. They are so stuiped . Please think about it.

        Comment by Evelyn Simek – March 16, 2014 07:20 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Do you mean under the dome??? I liked that show they are bringing that back i heard.

          Comment by siya – March 27, 2014 04:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I also LOVED OUAT in Wonderland. Very creative, Wonderful Cast… Can’t believe another GREAT show is gone :( There is so much JUNK on TV….Why get rid of the good ones???

        Comment by Suzan – March 28, 2014 12:24 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I was looking forward to this show so much, and I think I made it through the pilot and like 5 minutes of the second episode. It wouldn’t have mattered what night they put it on.

      Comment by Tee – January 17, 2014 11:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I think if abc would have put wonderland on later it would not have been so sloppy with cgi and acting but otherwise I think its pretty true to once upon a time they just needed more time.

      Comment by Laura – January 17, 2014 12:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • As a midseason filler, it would have been a shorter and, one assumes, tighter season. So how good it is when they had to belatedly stretch it out dopes not necessarily have any bearing on what it would have been like if it had been retained as a 13 episode midseason filler.

      Comment by Ben – January 17, 2014 12:49 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m watching it. I quite like it. Looking forward to seeing how Will gets out of the bottle.

      Comment by Shazay – January 17, 2014 07:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
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      Comment by Carl Modren – January 18, 2014 09:21 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Please monitor your spam, this is a week-end show or syndicated show… How about send a redo to ABC family?, not LCD, least common denominator enough, broad appeal enough for network tv…

        Comment by P.j. Whitman – February 22, 2014 05:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree. OUATIW is poorly written and its main character woefully miscast. Alice was supposedly brought up in cultured, affluent surroundings, but she has an accent that sounds more London East End.

      Comment by Larc – January 18, 2014 09:38 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I think someone better could have been picked for Alice. There was an article where Emma Rigby, who plays the Red Queen originally wanted the part of Alice. I’m like she would have been a better Alice then Sophie Rowe.

        Comment by Bianca – January 20, 2014 06:53 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I loved this show. I cant wait for season 2! I hated the animated movie – but I think this TV show was an adaption of a little of both the Alice in Wonderland and Aladdin movies. This show is really fun to watch. You people who didn’t like it – FINE – just don’t watch.

      Comment by Traci Coolbroth – January 30, 2014 09:36 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • If they don’t renew it you won’t be watching either

        Comment by Sarahliz – January 30, 2014 01:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Sarahliz, is that even necessary? you’re just chiming in to be rude.

          Comment by Amanda Rohkohl – February 3, 2014 01:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Buy a sense of humor. Stat!

            Comment by justsayin – March 8, 2014 12:12 PM PDT  
    • I liked the story line, now how do we get him out of the bottle?

      Comment by Lynda Jansson – February 8, 2014 05:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • it was absolutely awful…..a ridiculous premise!

      Comment by Becky Mercier – February 12, 2014 06:03 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • WELL I THINK IT WAS AWESOME I LOVE STORY’S LIKE THAT I JUST WISH AND HOPE THAT’S NOT THE END TO THIS STORY BECAUSE THAT WILL BE JUST DISAPPOINTING I LOVE THE TWISTS I LOVE THE BAZAAR THIS YOU SEE LIKE IT WOULD BE I FOUND THE COMEDY OF IT FUNNY I LOVE THIS TV SHOW PLEASE DON’T END IT LIKE THAT

      Comment by sam – February 13, 2014 10:19 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Worderland is better than the original one and I DVR both of them cause they are both great! idk what you guys are talking about!

      Comment by Candice C. – February 13, 2014 11:28 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • It was a great show. One of the very few I watch on that channel. I don’t know where they get the idea that nobody liked it because everyone I know really enjoyed it.

      Comment by Darthie – March 6, 2014 06:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I love once upon a time in wonderland, i think it was a nice spin off i truly enjoy the show and will miss it dearly i love wonderland ^^

      Comment by athena – March 28, 2014 02:19 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Great work ABC, you realized something the internet realized before the show even premiered.

    Comment by Mike R. – January 17, 2014 10:38 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Yeah, we all pretty much called it. Still though, it’s nice to hear them admit it in public.

      It really would have been a perfect fit for that hiatus-filling position, but at the end of the day, I personally was glad to get it at all. For all its faults, it was fun and definitely had its moments.

      Comment by wordsmith – January 17, 2014 11:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Right? The second that news was posted on this site, most of the people commenting chimed in to say that they thought this was not a good idea, and that it would be OUAT overkill having them both airing as 22 episode seasons.

      Comment by Brooke – January 17, 2014 01:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yeah, Wonderland is just bad, period.

    Comment by wrstlgirl – January 17, 2014 10:39 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I wanted to like it, but couldn’t stand Sophie Lowe or the Red Queen. Had to exit it.

      Comment by Stormy – January 17, 2014 12:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Love Wonderland – even though most of it is still sitting on my DVR (I still have a huge backup thanks to AMC’s airing of Breaking Bad marathon and The Walking Dead marathons). Definitely would have been a great as originally planned.

    You are soooooo right about Lucky 7. Those characters were awful. I watched the pilot, and knew I wasn’t going back when I left the room for 10 minutes without pausing, and didn’t bother to rewind when I came back in.

    Comment by CountryQueen – January 17, 2014 10:40 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wonderland has been a ton better than the main show this season.

    Comment by Brian – January 17, 2014 10:40 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Calling BS on body of proof. It did better than every drama ABC has premiered this season except for SHIELD.

    Comment by Joe – January 17, 2014 10:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Lots of problems with your oh-so-confident statement here. First, ABC doesn’t have a crystal ball and couldn’t know ahead of time how badly its new dramas would do. Besides, you’re making the very basic, illogical, and foolish mistake of simply assuming that Body of Proof would do at least as well this season as it did in the past. It very likely would not have–most shows drop with age, in fact. So probably Body of Proof would have declined had it stayed on, and in fact might have done worse than some of the new dramas this season did.

      Comment by Alex – January 17, 2014 11:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Body of Proof survived several serious schedule changes, behind-the-scenes changes, and it’s final season played on well past sweeps season and ended in June without experiencing a decline in viewership. BoP might not have been able to draw in new viewers, but it had a very dedicated and sizeable group of viewers nonetheless. ABC made a huge mistake canceling it, and it’s time for everyone to admit that.

        Comment by Jon – January 17, 2014 11:27 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Sorry but Body of Proof was horrid in Season 3. The writers made Megan into an idiot, Curtis and Ethan totally uninteresting and not funny comic-relief. The loss of Peter as Megan’s foil and the addition of the idiot played by Mark Valley, totally ruined what was an amazing show.

      Comment by Daven – January 17, 2014 11:22 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • As it turns out it was doing better than a lot of this year’s shows like you said, but considering that Body Of Proof was cancelled months before any of this season’s shows debuted, it isn’t necessarily bs that at the time of cancellation they didn’t think it would grow.

      Comment by Dys – January 17, 2014 11:27 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Body of Proof was superior in viewers to all but one ABC drama. This decision alone should be Mr. Lee’s death knell much less the stupid shows that flopped with more to come.

        Comment by Boiler – January 17, 2014 12:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Demo numbers matter for the future of most shows, not total viewers. It wasn’t as superior as you claim in that very relevant regard.

          Comment by cyn – January 17, 2014 02:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Yea and how did the new ones do.

            Comment by Boiler – January 17, 2014 03:30 PM PDT  
          • Plus if was the demo why doesn’t Mr Lee say that instead of the other BS

            Comment by Boiler – January 17, 2014 03:34 PM PDT  
    • the jerk Paul Lee doesn’t know a good show like BODY OF PROOF, He rather stuss himself with the boring Bachorlette and look at thos fools who cant find a woman and are hopeless BODY OF PROOF IS A GREAT SEXY AND DRAMA SHOW BRING IT BACK MORON

      Comment by John Hibert – March 20, 2014 07:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I’m glad that they admitted (airing it against The Big Bang was crazy) that but I think that the show also should have also introduced the Knave on OUAT first and had some ‘fan’ build-up for the character, especially given he was in Storybrooke. Also there’s the absence of Jefferson/Mad Hatter, there is so much they could have done with that character, because a ton of OUAT fans are curious about him (who was Grace’s mom etc) and would have tuned in and I know actor wasn’t available but still it’s a shame because being in Wonderland without the Mad Hatter seems off. I really, really enjoyed the show though and it would have helped with the OUAT hiatus a lot!

    Comment by Amy – January 17, 2014 10:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I think that the Knave character (and his romance with the Red Queen) is clearly a substitute for what was conceived as a story for Jefferson/Hatter. And yeah, I think that Seb Stan has the charisma to have anchored the show as the girl who plays Alice and the guy who plays the genie couldn’t (see, I can’t even remember their names).

      Comment by Cass – January 17, 2014 10:52 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Interesting theory about the Knave storyline originally being meant for Jefferson. I do like the Knave actor a lot—he’s a bright spot in the show. However, I don’t buy his love story with the Red Queen that much. He seems to have much more chemistry with Alice. (In fact, in the original 15-minute showcase released by Adam & Eddy, there was much more of a “moment” between Alice and the Knave right before they jump into the rabbit’s hole. When they aired the full pilot, that scene was deleted and totally replaced, unfortunately.)

        Comment by gdv – January 17, 2014 12:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • While that’s possible, I highly doubt they ever planned to make Jefferson a major part of the series. When news first broke of the show’s development, it was implied that he was a busy guy. They’ve known that for a while. They’ve said they’ll be happy to write him into OUAT when he’s available. Not to mention, Wonderland takes place along the timeline of Season Two. It would have been a continuity error adding him in considering he is reunited with Grace shortly after the curse broke and the Knave’s journey back was around the time the Wraith arrived.

        Comment by Logan – January 19, 2014 03:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree with everything you said here. I love Wonderland but there are so many things they could have done to make it work better. Plus who is the person who said the CGI is gawd awful? Yes honey. The worst.

      Comment by the girl – January 17, 2014 10:54 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • For those of you complaining about the CGI remember that this does not come cheap and ABC gets what it pays for. Series TV is very expensive and being that overall viewing is now just several million people per show a show must be a ratings success and demographic success from the get go. Just look over at SyFy and NBC network and you will see that it has become a network that is nothing like sci-fi was meant to be because of demographics. They don’t want old people or really young but that niche right in the middle that makes all the money and buys all the products. Might as well just get used to it. Shows will come and go quickly. ABC is rebooting The Visitors for the second time to replace one of these shows which is about as funny as you can get as it tanked last go around but now who knows.

        Comment by Matt B – March 17, 2014 07:34 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Plus, the way *I* saw it was that wonderland is supposed to look like that. It’s supposed to be whimsy and out-of-this-world. Wonderland shouldn’t look “real” but more like a “land” of “wonder”. It’s quirky and it fits, in my opinion. I wasn’t crazy about the storyline until like three episodes in but I LOVE it now. I don’t like Alice too much, and Cyrus is okay. However, The Knave and the Red Queen MAKE the show along with Jafar. It’s awesome. I love being able to watch OUAT on Sunday and then something similar on Thursdays. It’s nice. They definitely need to give it another shot. Ten times better than 90% of the shows on these days. {Plus, my four year old loves it because it’s Alice in Wonderland haha}

          Comment by Dani L. – March 22, 2014 09:38 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wonderland was much better than the reviews made it out to sound.

    Comment by Michael Sacal – January 17, 2014 10:45 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Someone should be fired for putting SFN on Wednesdays and leaving The Goldbergs and Trophy Wife on Tuesdays.

    Comment by AB – January 17, 2014 10:46 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • THIS!!
      Why didn’t Ausiello (or someone else) ask Lee why they didn’t move those 2 series to Wednesdays and leave SFN to die on Tuesdays with Back in the Game? I mean if they’re dead series airing anyway, or heck drop them to Fridays and move Last Man Standing after S.H.I.E.L.D.

      Comment by Will – January 17, 2014 10:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Agree with Will. Would really like to try and have these execs actually defend themselves. Michael or Matt, are you able to question them??

      Comment by Boiler – January 17, 2014 12:20 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Maybe they don’t have to move it, but at least put The Goldbergs and Trophy Wife on at 8 and 8:30 instead of letting them wither and die behind that god awful SHIELD.

      Comment by MiaB – February 25, 2014 05:26 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wonderland is way better then the original series. The characters are more interesting, and I care about them. I have not cared about the original series since August died.

    Comment by Anne – January 17, 2014 10:47 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • You are in the minority, my friend

      Comment by Sarahliz1624 – January 17, 2014 06:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree completely with this. The Wonderland characters are far more interesting, and easier to relate to. I am hoping for a second chance for the show, as it deserves it, the cast is perfect.

      Comment by Noelle – January 23, 2014 05:19 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree completely. And I don’t understand why they decided to leave giant gaps between episodes of both Once and Wonderland instead of putting Wonderland on Sunday during the Once hiatus. Seems like an obvious way to bring Once fans into the show without risking losing viewers of both shows who lose interest in the three months between new episodes. What are they showing on Sunday nights now? Might as well be doing reruns of Wonderland.

      Comment by Jae – January 27, 2014 06:36 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Agree! I love OUAT however…..The Knave and the Red Queen are amazing! And Jafar is a heck of a villian!

      Comment by danileephotographystudio – March 22, 2014 09:39 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • it’s a shame about killer women, the original show it’s based on is excellent.
    If they had kept the original format it might have been just as great, but i get how that kind of thing might not work for american tv. the original show had all stand-alone episodes, each with a new cast and a new case (based on true events) every week. it was very dark and very well written, like in america it would have to be on cable bc it was really racy sometimes.
    I love me some Tricia Helfer, but this was just not good.

    Comment by Dani – January 17, 2014 10:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m kind of enjoying Killer Women; any glimpse of Michael Trucco is appreciated. I like Marc Blucas, but he’s sort of miscast here.

      Comment by Tahonia – January 18, 2014 08:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • So basically Paul Lee admitted everyone on the internet is smarter than him.

    Comment by Et al – January 17, 2014 10:53 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Yeah, right. He’s laughing all the way to the bank.

      Comment by Alex – January 17, 2014 11:13 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • REVENGEEEE

    Comment by iMember – January 17, 2014 10:58 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Jumanjeeee! (Not really sure what you’re going for here, but I’m a bandwagon jumper.) ;-)

      Comment by TV Gord – January 17, 2014 11:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Revenge doesn’t need to be racier. It needs to go back to being intelligent. Right now it is a dumb soap opera. In season 1 is was smart and captivating.

    After two off seasons I am thinking that I might be time to drop Revenge. It is a shame because it used to be a high point of the week.

    Comment by Drew – January 17, 2014 11:07 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree. Season 1 of Revenge was incredible. Racier? I hope his definition of that doesn’t mean Scandal 2.0. Revenge doesn’t need heavy sex scenes to keep viewers.

      Comment by Lena – January 17, 2014 11:17 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Season 3 is VERY VERY good! Season one standard good.

      Comment by iMember – January 17, 2014 11:18 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I disagree. Emily is a moron these days. Far from the brilliant, strong character of season 1. There is no clear arc anymore. No Count of Monte Cristo vibe. It is just Melrose Place with everyone looking at each other with squinty eyes and expressing how much they hate each other in every scene.
        The show used to be about something. Now it is about sexy backstabbing and betrayal, and coming up with dead-end plots just to keep the show going.

        Comment by Drew – January 17, 2014 03:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I thought so too, I liked it, why does it always have to have a lot of violent to make it a good show. Let Emily do her think that she knows best to do. backstabbing and betrayal is that not a part of real life. Her Plan went wrong give her a chance to start up again. I think she is doing things wisely. I can’t wait for it to start again, the only think I did not like is that she can not have any children. did the mother in law make that up and had a doctor ok it to punish her? CAN NOT WAIT

        Comment by Lynda Jansson – February 8, 2014 05:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I hope it gets like Scandal, they’re on the same page and Revenge totally needs to get more more violent and sexy! Keep watching it, the third season is always getting better!

      Comment by Dave – January 17, 2014 01:11 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Revenge was great in Season 1 because of the writing. They don’t have to go Shonda’s way to create good television.

        Comment by Lena – January 17, 2014 02:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Not surprised by all the “hate” for Wonderland here (it helps to recognize that the biggest ratings go to crap), but, imo, the tone and story on Wonderland is much better than OUAT which often feels like a thoughtless cut-and-paste from Disney rather than the underlying real folktales *or* a new imagining of the mythology. This is one viewer that’s more anxious for Wonderland’s return than in plowing through his DVR backlog of OUAT eps. So there. (FWIW, I generally loathe comments that bash a tv show — so please take my negative comments about the parent show as a rebuttal to all the venom for the “spinoff.” I watch both … just prefer Wonderland.)

    Comment by Mark – January 17, 2014 11:10 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I prefer Wonderland too. I still watch OUAT, but I’ve lost a lot of my enthusiasm for the show. Wonderland had its issues, but I found myself enjoying it far more. I still hope they find a way to finish this season’s story at least.

      Comment by JC – January 17, 2014 11:53 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Moving Revenge to sundays was à vert bad idea.

    Comment by Sarah – January 17, 2014 11:16 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • S.H.I.E.L.D might actually do better if ABC didn’t program it to run until 9:01 and have it conflict on DVR schedules with other things slated to record in that 9pm time slot.

    Comment by smb – January 17, 2014 11:16 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • This is driving me crazy about a lot of shows.

      Comment by Jane – January 17, 2014 11:25 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Some of the better dvrs (TiVo) allow you to at least choose who get’s trimmed but, yes, it’s a lousy habit they’ve gotten into that way.

      Comment by John 1138 – January 17, 2014 11:48 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Shield needs less competition, a new series against series that go on since 10 years can’t stand for long. Fan need time to get attached

      Comment by Dave – January 17, 2014 01:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • So was Killer Women cancelled? I think I missed that.

    Comment by Kim R – January 17, 2014 11:51 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Can we find out if they’re going to burn off Killer Women in another timeslot? Or not air it at all?

      A show like that would do nicely on Lifetime, methinks…

      Comment by Loki – January 17, 2014 01:02 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • From what I’m hearing Killer Women is going to end “a little early” for Mind Games. Take that however you want.

      Comment by lll – January 17, 2014 01:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Lee also said “Castle is one of the greatest assets on the network” and I wholeheartedly concur. They’re probably raking it in from syndication money right now too since it airs so frequently on TNT. Hopefully they mentioned the People’s Choice Awards wins during the ABC panel. It’d be nicer if they’d actually promote the show. In Fall 2012 (I think) the Emmys were on ABC the day before Castle’s highly anticipated post-hookup premiere and it wasn’t even mentioned. I think they feel they’re getting a lot for little expense if you look at what Castle does vs its cost of promotion, but fans feel like redheaded step children when one of their favorite shows gets little network attention.

    Comment by scooby – January 17, 2014 11:57 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Yeah, but the more money they spend on promotion, the more expensive it is to continue the show, and the easier it is to cancel should the ratings drop even a little. It’s a winner for them, it’s consistent, and they’re keeping it around. That’s all I care about.

      Comment by Sarahliz1624 – January 17, 2014 06:29 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Well reconsider your evaluation. The majority of the budget for a show goes towards it production (say at least 75%), not promotion. Then consider the budget for Castle..it has one of the lowest budgets for a procedural show on all networks, let alone on ABC, yet it has been the most watched show on ABC for the past 4 years & one of the top 10 most watched shows (including football) of all networks! So the cost-benefit ration is hugely skewed towards benefits, especially compared to shows like Blacklist, SHIELD, Chicago Fire, Elementary, Bones, etc.
        Finally as scooby mentioned, Castle receives relatively low promotion from ABC, when compared to shows on ABC & other networks that get similar ratings/viewer numbers.
        So yes us fans would prefer if Castle got a bit more attention from ABC given it’s amazing consistency & growth even after 6 seasons.

        Comment by Rich Abey – January 18, 2014 09:00 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yeah, as much as I may hate to admit it, I doubt Wonderland will get a Season 2. The only slight chance I could see is if they tested it as a bridge then, of remade it as Camelot or Agrabagh. But I don’t see a Season 2 in our future, sadly.

    Comment by Zorkel – January 17, 2014 12:02 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • It was never going to have a Season 2, it was always meant to be a standalone season.

      Comment by Kat – January 17, 2014 12:29 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • The creators have said time and time again that yes, Season 1 is standalone. But if possible, they would bring the characters back for a Season 2 with a new storyline.

        Comment by Zorkel – January 17, 2014 12:56 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I always thought they should have visited a different worldo each season, this year wonderland and in the next one neverland or even oz, that could bring new aspects that couldn’t be seen in the originale series because of the plot that needs to go on

          Comment by Dave – January 17, 2014 01:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • In theory, I agree with this concept of visiting a different world each season. But in practice, after the long stretch on OUAT, I never want to see Neverland again.

            Comment by taran63 – January 17, 2014 01:30 PM PDT  
          • That would’ve been nice. As sick as I was of Neverland by the end there it would have been nice to see more of the actual characters from the Peter Pan story. I also would have liked to have seen Nealfire’s time on the island. I kind of doubt we’ll be getting anything else from the Peter Pan story in the second half of S3.

            Comment by Ash – January 17, 2014 02:51 PM PDT  
    • I don’t want a S2 anyway. While it was no where near as strong as S1 of OUaT, I’ve enjoyed Wonderland and I don’t want to see it go flying downhill like the mother show has done. Its a shame they stuck it where they did. Assuming ABC used the same schedule for OUaT’s hiatus, its timeslot would have been perfect for a 13 episode or so standalone spin off about some other land too keep people interested in the OUaTverse.

      Comment by Ash – January 17, 2014 02:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I like Alice, Cyrus and the Knave, but that’s about it. The Red Queen and Jafar are just awful. I wish we could’ve gotten some background on the 3 leads. How did Alice find the white rabbit and follow him to Wonderland? What were some of her adventures? How did Cyrus become a genie? What was his life like before? What were the adventures that Alice and Cyrus have? How did the Knave and Alice meet and how did she help him get his heart back? There are so many good stories that we could’ve been shown or have yet to see! I say less Anastacia and Jafar! Now that Alice and Cyrus have been reunited it will be interesting to see how they get Will back.

    Comment by wednesday – January 17, 2014 12:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • In my opinion I feel that Jafar is the only one keeping me interested in the show. Everyone else is awful. Well at least we can agree on disliking the Red Queen.

      Comment by lll – January 17, 2014 01:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I think too many were expecting a red version of the Evil Queen (bows to Lana Parilla). The step-sisters from Cinderella were never really fearsome villains to begin with and Anastasia (i.e. the Red Queen) is exactly as she ought to be, in my opinion.

        Comment by Sora – January 17, 2014 07:27 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Wait, what? Is Anastasia supposed to be one of Cinderella’s stepsisters?

          Comment by JC – January 17, 2014 07:29 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Cinderella’s step-sisters are Anastasia and Drizella. Not sure if this Anastasia is supposed to be a step-sister (I don’t watch OUATIW) but they share a name.

            Comment by Meg – January 18, 2014 11:55 AM PDT  
    • Personnally, Anastasia is my favorite character and I really want to see more of her!

      Comment by Ariane – January 17, 2014 10:03 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Nice to see the passion for Wonderland whether it’s good or bad. As long as people are talking about it, it has a chance, LOL.

    I come out on the side of loving it in spite of its CGI issues. Looking forward to its return in March.

    Comment by Nicole – January 17, 2014 12:48 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • The Wonderland show is good but lets face it its no Once Upon a Time. I think Adam and Eddie should have waited to write a spin off til after regular Once was completely over. The reason Once Wonderland is failing is I partly agree they should have aired while regular Once is on hiatus but the other fact is regular Once Upon a Time lost a lot of viewers during the second season because of too many characters or focusing a lot of attention on certain characters and not the others. Plus half the storylines on regular once were really bad. The third season is better then the second season but its still losing a lot of viewers. It dragged the Neverland plot out a little bit long and the last seasons they over did it with the one person being multiple characters. This season of regular once is now over doing it with Henry’s family tree getting bigger. So its like guys what makes you think a spin off show is going to do better then the regular show when the regular show has been losing viewers?

    Comment by Bianca – January 17, 2014 01:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I would have to disagree with this. There are plenty of spinoff shows that have aired while the parent show is still on the air where both shows still get viewers. Just off the top of my head, there’s: NCIS and NCIS: LA, Grey’s Anatomy and Private Practice, Buffy and Angel, all of the CSI’s, and probably several others that I’m not thinking of. I don’t think the fact that viewers are saturated with OUAT is what’s causing the low ratings. In fact, I think the Wonderland ratings would probably be better if it aired immediately after OUAT.

      Comment by taran63 – January 17, 2014 01:35 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I agree. I’m sure there’s lots of reasons why they didn’t, but I still wish they’d at least tried airing them back to back.

        Comment by JC – January 17, 2014 01:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • But that’s how a lot of people felt that the writers should have focused on making regular once better instead of doing a spin off. I know that’s how I feel too. I mean the Wonderland is good but either a lot of people aren’t watching it or the people that were watching it before aren’t now.

        Comment by Bianca – January 17, 2014 02:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Body Of Proof stopped growing and became dead with the misguided cast changes at the end of Season 2. It wasn’t worth watching so many of us bailed and never looked back. Whoever tinkered with it wasn’t paying attention to what made the fan meters move.

    Comment by ljd213 – January 17, 2014 01:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I cannot be the only person who thinks that the worst thing ABC has going for them right now is Paul Lee. The man has made one disastrous decision after another. Putting SHIELD against NCIS, cancelling Body of Proof, giving the greenlight to the god-awful OUAT in Wonderland, Lucky 7, etc. etc. He’s just made way too many mistakes and put on the air too many bad shows. It is astonishing that he’s still there.

    Comment by Babygate – January 17, 2014 01:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Don’t forget cancelling No Ordinary Family back in 2011. They stopped it just when it was getting good and left a giant cliffhanger!

      Comment by Jamie – January 17, 2014 03:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • i really wish they would bring back the dancing results show. Revenge will not work at 10 on sundays with that lead in. Unfortunately, as good as the show has become now, they need a lead in to remind viewers who have left.

    Comment by Tim – January 17, 2014 02:32 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Revenge may actually do better at 10 because it won’t be fighting The Good Wife.

      Comment by Sarahliz1624 – January 17, 2014 06:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Don’t forget The Walking Dead, which is much more dangerous then TGW.

        Comment by Luiz – January 17, 2014 11:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • this show had so many chances, but they just didn’t work. except for Michael Socha, even the cast was wasted. sorry

    Comment by Curt – January 17, 2014 03:08 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • LOL @ BoP excuse. ABC is “All Be Canceled” these days…sort of like NBC, Nothing But Cancellations.

    Comment by Zach – January 17, 2014 03:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • The CW is just as bad with cancellations.

      Comment by Jacqi – January 17, 2014 03:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • They’ve had quite a few long runners though. TVD’s at 5 years, Smallville went for 10 (allbeit starting on the WB), Nikita had 3.5, Supernatural’s on 10 (I believe, I don’t watch it), Arrow’s definitely getting a 3rd, Reign and the Originals are all but locks for renewal. They won’t be cancelling too many this year. Hart of Dixie maybe, Tomorrow People is a possibility, midseason premieres are too soon to tell, Beauty and the Beast and The Carrie Diaries are the only ones which will probably be cancelled and they are both on their second seasons. Ringer is the only one that I can think of in recent memory from them that I really like that was cancelled, and even that got one full season.The CW is pretty good about giving shows a shot.

        Comment by Sarahliz1624 – January 17, 2014 06:36 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Which is crazy because they have the best shows (almost)!

        Comment by danileephotographystudio – March 22, 2014 09:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • CGI aside, I think the stories are good, and good character development, with a few exceptions. Jafar, in my opinion, is the most well-written and well-acted character on the show. I think there needs to be more character development in the future, though. Can’t wait to see Cora’s return!

    Comment by Jamie – January 17, 2014 03:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I have to agree with alot of what others were saying. From the first show, the CGI was just pointless at times. I felt like they were just visiting places, just for the sake of it being Wonderland (mad hatter for example). I didn’t like the love triangles and just wished Alice and the Genie both were showcased before they met. I didn’t stay passed the 4th episode. I don’t think it would’ve even mattered if they changed time slots, the show was just bad. The Red Queen was awkward at times, Jafar was evil, but not showcased enough, the Genie was a genie, yet never used his powers? I was so happy for the spin off, but unlike OUAT, the characters just didn’t blend.

    Comment by Victoria C. – January 17, 2014 05:32 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I think it’s because they don’t have any episode for show in detail every charater and their evoluate :/ I would love to see Will’s parent, more of Cheschire and the Tweedlee!

      Comment by Ariane – January 17, 2014 10:00 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wonderland had a lot of issues ,
    Time Slot ,
    Bad Scripts and Production Work Early On ,
    An Over Use of English Accents , this aint BBC America

    As for SHIELD ,
    The scripts really really sucked so I stopped watching , that said I watched the last episode even though I had stopped watching SHIELD and it was so much better then anything I saw those 1st few weeks , so its possible the show might have a 2nd viable season if this was not a fluke

    Comment by Joseph Angelo – January 17, 2014 05:58 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I am glad the boss took responsibility and admitted his scheduling blunder. I think his orginal plan would have worked better and definitely if it were on Sundays. I wasn’t able to watch it on thursday but I would like to watch it on sundays. I actually liked the preview we saw at Comic Con but would have liked to watch it on Sundays.

    Comment by Shannon – January 17, 2014 06:40 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wonderland is the one I’m really missing during the hiatus but, I’m still undecided as to whether I want it to have a second season and risk it turning into another frustratingly prolonged soap opera like OUAT. Although more characters is absolutely the last thing the mother show needs right now, I hope it will adopt the Wonderland characters if they don’t go into a second season of their own.

    If I had to guess where things “went wrong”, I’d suggest the timing and the promos. ABC OUAT promos have a habit of going “big” and not conveying the actual point of the show/episode as well as they could (but, that’s what CTV and YouTube are for, right?). It took three episodes for the show to hook me, and I suspect it was because all the promos had me expecting something else entirely (apparently, Cyrus’ big character reveal is being saved for the second half of the season; not what you’d expect with him and the love story being all over the promos).

    Props to Mr. Paul Lee for recognizing and owning a decision that wasn’t the best one. Thankfully, we’re living in the age of the internet and, with at least two more seasons’ worth of OUAT hiatus withdrawal for fans to suffer through, Wonderland is certain of coming into its own and getting the love it deserves, eventually. No real harm done…unless, you’re an advertiser, maybe.

    Comment by Sora – January 17, 2014 07:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I like Wonderland even though the mother show is still wayyyy better, but please no second season. I’d rather they do another spinoff in a different realm (i.e. Once Upon A Time in….). Perhaps Once Upon A Time in Neverland. They can explore the history of Neverland and it would be a great excuse to bring back Robbie Kay, and maybe even young Baelfire and Hook every now and then.

    Comment by abz – January 17, 2014 07:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I still love Revenge!

    Comment by N – January 17, 2014 08:42 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Seriously, I don’t know what I will do if they cancel Wonderland. It is my FAVORITE show ever! I adore Will, Ana, Cyrus and everyone of this show! I love OUAT concept but in the original serie, it’s began too darker and it’s like the fairytale part didn’t really exist anymore. I’m more happy after watch the spin-off!

    Please, please… Rewned this TV-Show!! T_T

    Comment by Ariane – January 17, 2014 09:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Would watch SHIELD live in a different time slot.

    Comment by Tahonia – January 18, 2014 08:55 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I stopped watching OUAT:IW mostly because the schedule was so busy. It wasn’t very good, but had it aired during the OUAT hiatus, I would have probably continued to watch it.

    Comment by liz – January 18, 2014 09:54 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • The show is brilliant regardless it’s production, which by saying i do not mean to say it’s terrible. And neither is the acting. I personally love it, it’s watchable and enjoyable and i think they need to stop cancelling good shows.. this is about the 8 t.v. show that i have watched that they’ve cancelled. It’s getting frustrating now.

    Comment by anonymous – January 19, 2014 04:39 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I Love wonderland as much as the original once. I think the character’s are good and the storyline and each episode is a new adventure. Idc what the cgi looks like. It looks good enough to me to make the land look like its supposed to look. Abnormal and out there. Dreamy like its wonderland its not supposed to look natural and realistic. Please don’t cancel. Change the night if you think it helps. So what if it doesn’t get enough views I hate when a show I love gets cancelled just because people don’t appreciate it and want to be negative. There are still people who like it and why should we suffer? If one person is watching then it should matter. Everyone wants to be a critic but you dont know how hard it is to write and make a good show. And I think they did a pretty good job with it. Could it be better? Sure. So could any other show. They work with their budget and I don’t think they should be punished for that. People didn’t think once was gonna be a hit, but its one of the best shows out there. Could they have just put aspects of wonderland into once? Sure, but im glad they didn’t because we get to see more and I can’t wait to see cora in wonderland. Please don’t cancel for your fans who love the show.

    Comment by nicole – January 19, 2014 07:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I still love Revenge also! It is my favorite show this year! It should have been a ten o’clock show to begin with. I disagree that Emily is weak! If anything she is stronger now because of her vulnerability! ABC needs to keep this show a fourth season!

    Comment by Phil – January 19, 2014 07:53 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I hope, as they’ve admitted what they’ve done wrong with Wonderland, they’ll give it a second chance. I’ve seen the writers in an interview state there could be more self contained adventures with that cast if the interest is there and I think it is. In all truth, out of all the shows to premiere this season Once Upon a Time in Wonderland is the only one that caught my interest and has held it, it flows better than the original Once Upon a Time (I enjoyed the show, but not to this level and have pretty well given up on the original OUAT). The relationship between Alice and Cyrus is just such a fairy tale, and it is nice to see something on the television filled with whimsy and positive characters over the usual. We need a lot more of that. The complaints over the CGI seems a little silly to me, as the original show has some pretty bad CGI at times, and it is about imagination anyway. Wonderland feels, to me, to be the most imaginative show on the television at the moment.
    Give the show a second chance, put it in as hiatus filler for next season, I can wait until December to see more of Alice and Cyrus. I just really want to see more of the cast, and more stories. It is just so lovely having something on to watch that captures the imagination for a change. I hope it is given a second chance.

    Comment by Noelle – January 23, 2014 05:33 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • My boyfriend and I absolutely LOVE OUATIW and we are both praying for a season 2!! Sure, changes could be made to the show, but nothing’s perfect. You learn from your mistakes and figure out how to make the next season better than the last. This show is amazing. Period. As for the previous CGI comments… yeah there is no doubt that it’s not the best on this show, but HELLO people there’s a reason for that! Wonderland is supposed to be unlike anything you’ve ever seen before. Even the thought of it is supposed to be crazy wild and hard to comprehend. I think the show was amazing and I think it deserves a season 2!!

    Comment by Bailey – January 24, 2014 11:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I LOVE BOTH OF THE ONCE UPON A TIME SHOWS!!!! i have been checking my guide and the net almost daily and at least weekly to see when i can get new episode… my kids are in love with the shows too… i really really hope to see more of both shows… at least some closure of some kind cause i can not stand it when people end shows with out closure…

    Comment by rose – January 28, 2014 07:45 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I love both “Once Upon a Time” programs, personally, and I hope that they at least see “Wonderland” through to a reasonable ending, instead of just ending it. (What I really hope for is that they don’t cancel it at all, but sadly, it’s not up to me.)

    That said, I’ve seen a lot of people complaining about the poor CGI, etc. Well, geez, people, I ask you: Have you ever read the actual books? Wonderland is SUPPOSED to be weird–and that’s all the CGI is demonstrating. If they’d wanted it to be more realistic, I’m sure that they would have done so–it’s not like they don’t have the technology to do so. But the CGI they’re using is to illustrate how frightening the oddities of Wonderland actually are supposed to be–besides, there is so much more to the show than just the CGI. But if you don’t see that, then there’s nothing I’m going to be able to say that will dissuade you–just don’t feel that you have to ruin it for those of us who DO enjoy this program. Watch something else–it’s not like there isn’t anything else on t.v.!

    Comment by Karen – January 28, 2014 10:11 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • In all honesty, OUAT never caught my attention. I tried the pilot… Nothing there for me. A few days ago I stumble upon OUAT:IW on Hulu Plus. If anything I absolutely adore the plethora of English accents, and how these writers are humanizing what otherwise would be yet another numb fantasy ( a la OUAT ). Anastasia is absolutely amazing “darling” ( and I’m not sure if it’s intended but there something Marylin Monroe-esque about how that line is written and/or delivered ). Alice is great for THIS storyline ( it’s a REtelling… are we supposed to be expecting a Disney Cinderella 2.0. – that would be horrible ). Jafar is a great villain. I do need more info on Cyrus ( which I’m hearing it’s on the way ), and I am confused about the Knave as in, for someone missing his *heart* still by choice he seems to be very much human. I’m missing the meaning of the concept is what I mean ( I’m probably used to much with the ” humanity shut off” on TVD to make room for another different variation of the idea/ concept ). The dynamics between the cast and the writing is good quality in my eyes, and way above average compared to other ” popular” shows nowadays, so much so that CGI is a non-isue. There’s never gonna be summer blockbuster like CGI on TV mainly because of budget restraints, and the time needed for editing and such , I’m assuming , when I try to think logically about it.
      And to end this long one of mine, all I want to say is I just finished episode 8 and I’m hooked. I want more of that dynamic, attitude , psychology , surrounded by this peticular fantasy element… Plus it’s the FIRST time that a TV show compels me to write a comment about it…

      Comment by Dan Avram – February 1, 2014 11:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I liked the show… Well actually loved it… It don’t matter when it came on…I was still always able to catch it in order to watch it…. If the company is so worried about timing, then they can just wait till once upon a time season 4 ends an then come back wit Wonderland, having them to go back to the fairytale land an do what they gong to do in a separate area away from the original characters, r they can meet up wit the original characters along their journey… But either way I hope they do come out with season 2

    Comment by Charmette – February 6, 2014 08:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I don’t mind the bad CGI Effects, or the slightly bad acting, what really hooked me in was the story. Call me a sucker for fairy tales, but I actually enjoyed the story, and think that it has potential to grow.

    Comment by Kayla Havenor – February 7, 2014 07:03 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • There’s no point in telling any story if you’re not going to tell it well. You might have the best joke in the world, but if you screw up the punch line, what was the point of telling the joke?

      Comment by Sarahliz – February 7, 2014 08:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I think characters are more important than cgi and effects. Who cares about all that. It’s only there to help tell the story not BE the story. I loved it. Any show takes a minute to get into showing characters, and especially when they characters are magical or mystical etc. Always takes longer, but I don’t think they took longer than any new show beginning. Much shorter than some. And they only had a few episodes then the darn pilot season was over. Wish they have shows like this a full run, so many awesome characters to get into and develope. It all takes time but I think they did a wonderful job with wonderland with the very short amount of time they had. If you watch the first season of some of your favorite shows you may change your mind lol. Building character development takes more than just an awesome idea. But I think they’ve done well. And the character quirks helped with all of it I think. Gave it a very wonderlandy feel. I hope it does renew for a full season… If they are still deciding that.

      Comment by andicat43 – March 17, 2014 03:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I like Wonderland but it took about four episodes to get good after starting out boring & not good.I like Jafar,Alice,Cyrusand the Cyrus/Alice love story

    Comment by Brandy – February 13, 2014 04:02 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I like OUATIW and think it should come back, but I love OUAT more and can’t wait for it to come back in march. They need to be back to back though on sundays.

    Comment by Jessica – February 15, 2014 06:54 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • It’s nothing but diappointments. ABC does this all the time. We all get interested and they cancel and sometimes do not even give a decent ending. I’m getting sick of watching and then nothing. I best try some other stations.

    Comment by Linda – February 16, 2014 07:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post

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