Showtime Boss Talks Homeland Backlash, Says No Dexter Spin-Off Without Michael C. Hall

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Dexter Spinoff NewsAppearing Thursday morning at the Television Critics Association winter press tour, Showtime entertainment president David Nevins acknowledged yet defended against criticism of Homeland Season 3.

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Saying that certain critiques “didn’t surprise me,” Nevins opined that “the season was pretty brilliant in its architecture” and unexpectedly prescient, “very clever and very audacious” in its take on changes in U.S./Iran relations.

As for the knock that Season 3 in ways felt like a mere bridge between Seasons 2 and 4, he said, “We always knew we were heading towards a major reset.”

Nevins said of Homeland Season 4, with Carrie stationed in Istanbul, “The likely plan is you will see her on the ground… doing her job,” while Mandy Patinkin’s Saul — who left the CIA to work in the private sector — will play a “central” role.

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After the panel, Nevins said that any possible Dexter spin-off — thus far there have only been “ongoing conversations” — would demand the participation of Michael C. Hall. “It would have to involve Michael… If we were to do it, I’d only do it with Michael,” reprising his serial killer role on camera.

That said, “If we were to do it, we would have to have a very good reason to do it. It’s a new show. I’m not interested in doing it if it’s just a continuation…. I would want to do Dexter in a new concept and configuration. I want it to feel different.”

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In other Showtime news:

* The much-anticipated “literary horror” drama Penny Dreadful, which is detailed here and which Nevins touted as “nothing like we’ve ever done before,” has been set for a May 11 premiere. Penned by film vet John Logan and helmed in part by Juan Antonio Bayona (The Orphanage), its cast included Josh Hartnett (The Faculty) and Eva Green (Camelot).

* Nevins does not expect the coming season of Nurse Jackie — premiering April 13 and paired with Californication‘s goodbye run — to be its last. “I think Nurse Jackie has a lot of life in it. I know where they’re ending this season, so I don’t expect this to be the last.” He added that the coming run has a “very different” rhythm that doesn’t tread on old territory.



Comments (36)

  • Do the people at Showtime understand what a spinoff is?

    Comment by Superhero – January 16, 2014 10:29 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • It isn’t the usual use of a spinoff but Dexter in a new location with a completely or mostly different supporting cast would qualify as a spinoff just like Archie Bunker’s Place was a spinoff of All In The Family.

      Comment by Dys – January 16, 2014 11:30 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • and many other examples

        Comment by Dys – January 16, 2014 11:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • All in the Family spun off to Archie Bunker’s Place for a few seasons, so it’s not unheard of.

      At least now we understand why they didn’t allow him to die.

      Comment by David4 – January 16, 2014 11:33 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • How about this for a reason to do a Dexter spin off: THE ENDING SUCKED.

    Comment by Ross – January 16, 2014 10:37 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • +1000

      Comment by Pat D. – January 16, 2014 02:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • If you ask me that is a reason NOT to do one. They’d probably make it even worse. I know that seems impossible but if anyone could do it, it would be the people behind Dexter.

      Comment by RobMF – January 16, 2014 05:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Hey Matt, can you tell us who’s attending tomorrow’s ABC TCA14 party?

    Comment by Tia – January 16, 2014 10:38 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I want a spin-off set like 10-12 years later when Harrison starts acting like his Dad, Hannah seeks help and finds-out Dexter is alive…. This is the only spin-off of Dexter, I’m willing to watch (it would have been interesting to see spin-off based on Zack but they killed him)…

    Comment by Lubomir Raykov – January 16, 2014 10:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Yep I’d like to see that too

      Comment by Azerty – January 16, 2014 11:14 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Other way to go with Harrison that might be interesting would be if he follows in his aunt Deb and grandfather Harry’s footsteps and becomes a cop. A cop who starts investigating all the open cases of suspected and missing serial killers, starting with the Bay Harbor Butcher.

      Comment by sg – January 16, 2014 11:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I’d like to see Harrison become a killer and Dexter be the VoiceOver in his head ala Harry.

        Comment by DarkDefender – January 16, 2014 05:52 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • What about dexter being a serial killer again and debra being the VoiceOver?

          Comment by Edsdex – January 22, 2014 03:29 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • If they revisit Dexter in any way, Showtime is officially out of ideas.

    Comment by Claire – January 16, 2014 10:48 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Lol.

      Comment by Et al – January 16, 2014 11:27 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Maybe we can get them to bring back Stargate SG-1? lol

      Comment by David4 – January 16, 2014 11:34 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • YES!

        Comment by Will – January 16, 2014 11:51 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Sam and Jack would be married in Washington. Daniel and Jack 2.0 will be around, Teal’c is helping the Jaffa and just call the show Stargate Command.

          Comment by David4 – January 16, 2014 01:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • They want to turn dexter into a situation comedy about the hardships of lumberjacks. I can’t wait!

    Comment by Meredith – January 16, 2014 11:14 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Dexter’s first kill (played for laughs) could be choking out a guy who won’t stop singing the Monty Python lumberjack song at him.

      Comment by Spinning Maze – January 16, 2014 06:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • How about they jest pretend seasons 4-8 never happened and pick up with Rita in the tub and go from there in a different direction.

    Comment by Steven – January 16, 2014 12:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • ….So basically they are saying a Dexter spin-off will never happen. Michael C. Hall has already stated he is ready to move on from the series and the character of Dexter Morgan. I doubt he will ever reprise his role again. Besides, I personally don’t want it to happen. What made the show is Dexter AND Deb. Nobody can deny that. I can’t picture Dexter Morgan without Debra Morgan. It just doesn’t work. I’m not worried about them doing it because I’m 99% sure they won’t. There is always a possibility that Michael C. Hall will reprise his role, but I doubt it.

    Comment by Eric – January 16, 2014 12:40 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • It works if Dexter is the voice in Harrison’s head..

      Comment by DarkDefender – January 16, 2014 05:54 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Can’t have Dexter in Harrison’s head, he didn’t really raise him. Only to age 4 or 5, not long enough.

        Comment by David Quillen – April 9, 2014 07:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Please don’t create a new show. Give us 6 strong episodes where Dexter is hunted (a la season 2) and then end it properly. The series finale, and the last season in general, was a let down amongst let downs.

    Yes, I’m calling for a do-over. Now do it right.

    Comment by Henry P. – January 16, 2014 12:49 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • “Dallas revisited” Dream season? I could see that. The ending did leave me with an unfulfilled something. A kill left undone sort of feeling.

      Comment by LairdTorin – April 9, 2014 07:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • To be honest I didn’t hate the way they ended Dexter, I definitly didn’t want a happy ending and Dexter being miserable, alone and silent was perfect. The problem was the build up, all season Dexter, Debra, Miamia metro and every single character did non sense and Dex was finally ready to move on from killing and Miami to live his happily ever after, and in one episode boom! game changer. I tought it was too rushed. They should have gone darker and deeper instead to get to the same ending.

    Comment by Azerty – January 16, 2014 02:34 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I hated Dexter’s ending because I always wanted Miami Metro to discover who he was in the end and see their reactions, it didn’t matter wheter Dexter escaped or not, I felt Deb’s death was cheap drama and that the whole season didn’t feel like a final season at all.

    Homeland ended for me with this season and I’m happy with it, I loved it so far and felt like a complete, even tho sad, story, I don’t need more episodes with the same characters.

    Comment by Thannia Blanchet – January 16, 2014 04:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Is anyone clamoring for a spinoff to Dexter? The show suffered a long slow death and it’s last season was embarrassing. Let it die.

    Comment by Matt – January 17, 2014 08:32 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Pretty cool if Harrison became the same as him and the FBI found Dexter was the Bay Harbor Butcher…catch Dexter and as a plea bargain Dexter becomes a consultant helping them find murderers including finding Dexter’s monster son Harrison who is like Dexter with NO CODE!

    Comment by Jerry – January 26, 2014 09:49 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Ps…they catch Dexter through DNA from Harrison’s murders and they link them to the Bay Harbor Butcher Murders but Harrison was too young to commit them.

      Comment by Jerry – January 26, 2014 09:58 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Dexter with no code was done, that would be the Ice Truck Killer.

      Comment by LairdTorin – April 9, 2014 07:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Ok spin off idea that would work, Quinn. He knew about dexter from previous seasons. Debra confided in him and if the true dexter fans noticed after the horrible kill of the brain surgeon he stated “you did the right thing” Quinn was and will be a wreck without debra he needs somthing to fill the hole so “tonights the night” with quin. He knows were harrison is and what else. They could do a couple good seasons with that. than add harrison as a serial killer.

    Comment by Ziemba – February 20, 2014 04:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Dexter jumped the shark after they killed off Rita……love, love, love Michael c Hall and the other cast members……Let Dexter RIP.

    Comment by Pat – February 22, 2014 05:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I want to see a spin off on Jennifer Carpenters Deb Morgan. Find some way to bring her back from the dead. For Dexter and Harrison

    Comment by Amber Smith – March 6, 2014 09:38 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Dexter was a phenomenal program cant wait until series reemerges.

    Comment by Raymond Calise – April 6, 2014 02:51 PM PDT  Reply To This Post

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