The CW's Cult: Will You Be Following?

CULT“Well, hey, these things just snap right off.”

No, we have no idea what that means — but that was just one of the questions raised by The CW’s Cult, which debuted Tuesday night.

Cult follows a disgraced reporter named Jeff (played by Vampire Diaries alum Matt Davis) as he investigates the vanishing of his brother, who’d gotten too close to the strongly rumored and literal cult fan base of a TV series called, yes, Cult.

On the CW show-within-a-CW show, Robert Knepper (Prison Break) plays the actor who plays cult leader Billy Grimm, while Alona Tal (Veronica Mars) plays the actress who plays a police detective nipping at Billy’s heels.

Jessica Lucas (Melrose Place) is Skye, a production assistant on the Cult-within-Cult, who helps Jeff sniff around the series’ rabid fanbase (they congregate in trendy bars to sit at laptops and visit websites about the show!) and delve into its dark secrets.

As the pilot drew to a close, Jeff discovered a DVD matching one seen on the show. When popped into his MIA bro’s laptop, it triggered a panicky phone call from his sib, begging him to back off of his investigation. Billy Grimm (or was it the actor who plays Billy?) then came on screen to warn Jeff on a loop, “You’re next.”

Oh, and one of the local cops “aiding” in the investigation but dismissing Jeff every step of the way — remember, he’s digsraced — is apparently a member of the cult.

But enough of that. Really. Tell us what you thought of the premiere. Including: Would you rather simply watch the Cult-within-Cult starring Alona Tal?

Comments are monitored, so don’t go off topic, don’t frakkin’ curse and don’t bore us with how much your coworker’s sister-in-law makes per hour. Talk smart about TV!

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  1. Lorena says:

    I really liked it.. waiting for the next episode, and decide if we watch the series

  2. Amazing show! Matt Davis and Robert Knepper are wonderful in it. I am definitely hooked

  3. Star says:

    I don’t watch anything associated with Josh Schwartz or Stephanie Savage i.e. Fake Empire.

  4. Interesting premise. Not hooked yet but i’m willing to give it another few eps.

  5. Drew says:

    Interesting show. It could go either way, but so far it is way better than The Following. Some of the background music was weird, but otherwise not bad.

    • Eli says:

      lol, better than The Following? You are hilarious…

      • Fran says:

        No need to be nasty b/c someone has a different opinion than you.

      • Drew says:

        The Following is based around the premise that every law enforcement officer in the nation is a complete moron. The killer isn’t interesting or smart, the good guys are just incredibly stupid. What Williamson passed off as satire in “Scream” he is now trying to pass off as legit thriller material here, with a straight face. The characters are lame. The plot is unoriginal and bland. The writing is just horrible, and made all the worse by the fact that the show seem to take itself so seriously and think of itself as a truly meaningful character exploration.

        “Cult” was different. It had an element of fun to it, which actually served to make the show more enjoyable and creepy in ways. It has a clever gimmick, with the show within the show (both of which held my interest). It had fun with the idea of these cult followings for TV shows, while not being hokey about it. It was dark, but self aware enough to not be full of itself. So, while the show could go either way at this point, the pilot was leaps and bounds above the crapfest that was The Following.

        Look, I don’t mind if people enjoy The Following. That’s your choice. But from where I’m sitting, that is some incredibly bad writing and the show is a poorly executed cliche. So if you’re trying to make jokes about me liking Cult better because you think that The Following is genius, it doesn’t make me feel bad. It just makes me think less of you.

    • cas says:

      I am not sure why you needed to bring The Following into it. My understanding is while they are both about serial killers, it is a completely different premise. And while I do love Matt Davis, I love love Kevin Bacon.

      • Alice says:

        Well, they are both about disgraced former law enforcement officials getting drawn back into re-investigating the activities of the followers of charismatic serial killers. Said cults have members planted in local or federal law enforcement teams working the case and a family member is in peril. The gimmick- murders around the theme of the cult TV show rather than the works of Edgar Allan Poe- is different, but the set up and characters are pretty similar.

        • Drew says:

          Thanks for explaining that. I thought the similarities were pretty obvious. Even the names are just variations of the same thing. “The Following” “Cult”

      • brett says:

        I believe, actually, that “Cult” was supposed to be about “The Following” initially in the pilot scripts. Everything that happened on “The Following” was followed on “Cult.” Then, they got picked up by different networks… But correct me if I’m wrong, I could be mistaken.

        • Drew says:

          I hadn’t heard that, but it’d be interesting if true. For the record, I prefer Alona Tal to Kevin Bacon by far!

          Interesting thing is that the show was apparently supposed to be a WB series originally, but was dropped when the CW was formed. So it’s not a Following knockoff, despite what people say.

      • Nathalie says:

        They are not both about serial killers. Where does it say that Billy Grimm is a serial killer? He’s a cult leader, not in jail, and he has his family who he protects and they protect him. Then we see the actor, Roger, who plays this monster and has to deal with an obsessed fanbase and weird happenings that develop around the show he stars in.

  6. kavyn says:

    I didn’t hate it, but I think it might take me a few episodes until I understand what’s going on. It was a little confusing. I didn’t really buy Jessica Lucas’ character but to be fair I should probably give her a chance to grow into it.

  7. mia says:

    I didn’t want to get roped into another CW show….cause we know they’re going to cancel half of them.

    • nick says:

      I second that! Don’t bother getting into a TV show unless it finished the series. TV shows to these company ‘s these days is just a business now. There can be some fantastic shows but if it only grabs a small audience apparently its not worth the air time lol….
      Even if the trend of cancelling shows that lose ratings doesn’t end soon
      The least they can do for the viewers that liked the shows from the beginning is let them see the end of it.
      Can you imagine if we relied on public transport everyday and the companies decided they wouldn’t run say that train today as not enough tickets were brought lmao

      • dude says:

        TV shows were always just a business. Networks don’t care about what they’re broadcasting as long as its pulling in ratings that please their advertisers. Ads are what they care about.

      • Brooke says:

        They are just a business “now”? They have ALWAYS been just a business. Look, I hate it as much as anyone when my favorite low rated shows are axed, but it always has been and always will be about making money. It’s silly to think any television network, movie studio, book publisher, video game studio, etc etc will hemorrhage money for the sake of keeping us entertained. Even Fringe only stayed on with the help of negotiating lower licensing agreements.

  8. Adam Bramble says:

    Something Diffirent But Awesome now the cw has something i can watch tuesdays as well (Arrow, Supernatural and The Vampire Diaries) Cant wait till next week.

  9. I Heart Damon Salvatore says:

    I really, really liked it … which means the ratings will be worse than 90210 and it’ll be cancelled next week.

  10. Sean says:

    LOVED Cult!!!!! my new Tuesday show!!!

  11. susie says:

    CW now has Hart of Dixie, Beauty and the Beast, Arrow, The Vampire Diaries and Cult which will make it my favorite station to tune into weekly now.

  12. Tina B. says:

    Sucked, bring back Emily Owens

    • Lilys87 says:

      Yes, please !

    • KC says:

      I have not yet watched the Cult so can’t comment on what I thought of it BUT I totally agree with you on PLEASE BRING BACK EMILY OWENS, M.D.
      I can’t believe they cancel that show and kept some of the others. Always happens to me. I thought the show was refreshing and really like Mamie Gunner. I was not crazy about the other medical show she was on that got cancelled a few years ago but I like her.

  13. AB says:

    It’s like a hipster version of the Following.

  14. Robert says:

    I was looking forward to checking the show out, but it didn’t air in Kansas City because of news coverage. Now I’ll have to wait for the re-airing on Friday night.

  15. AT says:

    I have mixed feelings about the show. I didn’t think the pilot was bad and there’s enough in there to make it interesting, but I didn’t really like how choppy the show within the show was. It didn’t “feel” like a real show that anyone would watch. Plus, I felt the cop reveal was kind of obvious and cliche. I would have liked to have seen more of an intermix between the two shows so we could see why people would be so obsessed with the series. For me it didn’t feel like there was a whole lot for Alona Tal or Robert Knepper to do. Right now it feels like a combination of “The Ring” (because of the tape/DVD) and “The Following” through the lens of the CW. It was okay and I will give it a couple more times to see if it hooks me, but it’s not as good as I was expecting it to be. Plus, it came across as slightly pretentious.

  16. Kelly says:

    I really thought it was clever, well written, mysterious, creepy, and interesting! Ive loved robert since prison break and I think this show can showcase more of his incredible statue of talent!! Being a Vampire Diaries lover, I am glad to see Matt Davis back! It sparked my curiousity and I hope it does well!! Now I can watch something on Tuesdays! :)

  17. Emily says:

    Love the concept, hated the execution, will give it a second shot, but needs to be a dramatic improvement

  18. Christian says:

    Was this supposed to be a thriller? Because it contained no thrills, no suspense and very little intrigue. I’ll try to give it another shot but the pilot was godawful for even The CW’s standards.

  19. kye says:

    Brilliant! I cannot wait for next week’s episode.

  20. marie says:

    Ugh. Not as bad as cw typocal trash but talk about unrealistic! Acreporter who walks into a crazy story and DOESN’T take it public? Right…also the actress who plays the tv detective…ugh. bland.

  21. Christa says:

    Where is the choice of “confussed” I am not sure if I liked it or not… Right now I just trying to figure out what I watched

  22. Meerna says:

    I loved it and I didn’t find it confusing at all.

  23. YowzaPowza says:

    Not nearly as bad as I was expecting. Very creative and different for The CW. I’ll check out a few more episodes and make up my mind. I’m finding The Following to be very inconsistent, and not quite as good as everyone is claiming. There’s something more self aware and campy about Cult which I can appreciate. A little over-acted at times. But that usually passes after pilots. I gave it a B.

    • Drew says:

      I had the same opinion about it being self aware! :)
      The Following takes itself so seriously, that it just becomes funny, because it’s really not that well written. Cult isn’t trying to be the most important thing in the world, it seem, so it was more fun and more interesting. The cliches almost work in its favor because of its premise of being based on a TV series.

  24. UnauthorizedAccount says:

    I agree with AT above in that the “show within the show” wasn’t working for me.
    In order for this concept to work the “show within the show” has got to be just as compelling as the show. And that was not the case. I found myself laughing at the scene in the bedroom where the brother-in-law blew his brains out. And I shouldn’t have been. i should have been on edge.
    Also, the female detective who doesn’t trust Jeff Sefton, the covering up of the tattoo thing was kind of asinine. Who was she hiding the tattoo from? There was no one else in the car AND her hand was down by the stick shift completely out of sight!
    I realize it was the Pilot though so I’m going to stick with it and see what happens

  25. ollie says:

    I thought it was just ok but will give it a few more eps to see if I like it. it took me to get tje first seven eps of tvd before I liked it. did anybody else think the actor playing nate looked like conrad from revenge?

  26. I voted B, but frankly it’s more like B+. The premise is full of potential, the visuals are awesome so far, and I like the cast. I’m definitely interested to see where it goes. I didn’t find it quite as creepy as I’d hoped, but I think the promos spoiled too much for that (the part where Miriam shoots herself could’ve been shocking and disturbing if I didn’t know it was coming).
    The next few episodes should tell us more about the show, because the series premiere doesn’t reveal much we didn’t already know from the synopsis and promos. Right now, though, I’m definitely along for the ride. Ambitious, high-concept shows like this are too rare, and that alone is reason enough to give Cult a chance.

  27. JuJu says:

    really really loved it! Cant wait for next week’s episode cause i really must know more! i hope soooo badly that the show gets high enough ratings!!

  28. Kresh says:

    Was it just me or did everyone hate that cop… Couldn’t stand her from the begining and that after 2 minutes past by with her on the screen I understood that she was part of the “cult”

    Yea CW some viewers aren’t dumb :)

  29. Toni says:

    Not as good as I hoped. When Miriam shot herself in the head there was blood spatter on the wall BEFORE the gun went off.. Love Kevin Williamsons work. LOVE Matt Davis. Will give it a chance but pilot was a bit of a let down!

  30. Fran says:

    Really interestiing premise. It’s so hard to judge from pilot episodes so I will definitely give it a few more episodes before I decide for sure. I truly adore Matt Davis but I still miss him on TVD.

  31. Patrick Maloney says:

    I thought it was a really good pilot one of the best this year, if not the best

  32. Jason says:

    Don’t understand CW’s fascination with Jessica Lucas at ALL. And this show better get Robert Knepper out in front immediately, because HE is the reason most viewers are tuning in, not Matt Davis (contrary to what CW believes).

  33. Liz says:

    I Love Matt, but this is the stupidest show I’ve ever seen. They cancelled Emily Owen’s for this? Put Matt as a ghost back on Vampire Diaries and be done with it.

  34. just read that cult premiered to horrible raitings even for cw standards which saddens me seeing as it arrow and last resort where the only pilots that drew my attention this year. And for those saying watch the following that was one of the shows i couldn’t get past the first my minutes off without turning it off do to boredom so no matter how big it may get in the ratings no thank you.

  35. kirads09 says:

    Isn’t this just trying to copy and compete with The Following?

  36. Sami says:

    It was suprisingly good. Well the writing is lazy at best but overall, i think i might check out the 2nd episode. It reminds me of rabid fans of LOST.
    And being a poor man’s carbon copy of The Following, it’ll be interesting to see the ratings given the 2 shows have premiered within weeks of each other.

  37. voxpop says:

    CULT didn’t do a thing for me..i like robt. knepper but that’s it.

    • Suz says:

      Agreed. I never watch CW shows but I tried, and liked Arrow, so gave this a chance. I’ll take The Following, if only for Kevin Bacon.

      The show-within-the-show concept takes too much time and confuses the story: Sister looking for sister/brother searching for brother. If show was a public access reality show that was luring viewers into their cult, then it would work for me.

      I’ve loved Robert Knepper since Prison Break and it’s always good to see Aisha Hinds.

  38. Nina says:

    The first episode was awesome!!!!!!! I had no idea which day it would premiere so I didn’t watch it on tv. Hopefully that was the case with other people as well because the ratings sucked. I’m going to watch it on Tuesdays at 9 from now on and hopefully other people will too so the ratings go up. I really think this will be an awesome show

  39. Mikael says:

    I thought it was intriguing, but I agree that the “show within a show” wasn’t compelling. I know it was just the pilot, but I didn’t really get why people are so obsessed with the show. It seems to be about a cult leader who has crazy dedicated followers who kidnap or kill people for him. And a former follower out for revenge. I’ll stick with it a few more weeks to see where it’s going. And yeah, there wasn’t enough Robert Knepper.

  40. Nathalie says:

    totally not enough Robert Knepper. He only had a small part so I hope that they showcase this man a bit more. I

  41. Kay says:

    It definitely has potential. The premise is interesting and it has a strong cast. Unfortunately, as much as I like the cast, Knepper wasn’t in it enough and the others weren’t as good as they could’ve been. As intriguing as the concept of a show-within-a-show is, it’s going to get too repetitive very fast (if it lasts). We see the guy blow his brains out in a seedy motel, and then two minutes later we see Miriam blow her brains out in the same seedy motel room. Why can’t they just tell us she died the same way? Why waste airtime on the exact same scene? If I want that much repetition, I’ll watch Ground Hog Day and be done.
    As for it being minutely similar The Following (only in that they’re both about cults), who cares? Watch one, watch the other, watch them both. At least they’re on different networks. And this is something different than the CW’s usual teen drama or supernatural-esque shows. All in all, I’ll give it another few episodes to see if it can come into its own a little more.

  42. Joy says:

    At one point in the beginning when they are in the shed and the cop pulls the guy from the wall he says the saying..blah blah snap right off…then…if you listen closely, they play something backwards. Anyone know what is said there?

  43. Molly says:

    I really hope this show picks up I was leg down it was just not as good as they made it seems but that’s what I get for listening to all the hipe.. Ill give it till bout the seventh episode and see where it takes me.. I didn’t like that it was on tuesday nights I have other shows I watch so hopefully its moved.

  44. Brigid says:

    I like the premise, it’s a bit different for TV and reminds me of the later ‘Scream’ movies mixed with ARG’s (Alternate Reality Games). After watching the first episode I thought it could go either way if the next episode proved to step it up a notch. No such luck. The acting is absolutely atrocious. Matt Davis is AWFUL. The dialogue blows. It seems forced and unnatural. I don’t even care enough to get through another episode. It’s a shame cuz it could have been cool. This was a fail for me and I doubt it’ll make it to a second season.