Fringe's John Noble Previews 'Remarkable' Walter/Peter Scenes and a Perfect Series Finale

Fringe Season 5 SpoilersThis Friday on Fringe — in the Fox’s drama’s antepenultimate hour — the team will track down September aka “Donald,” for better and for worse.

Because though September is in possession of missing pieces from the puzzle that has been Walter’s plan to defeat the Observers, it is quickly realized that with any such big win will come a large loss.

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“We know there’s something that has to happen in order to beat the Observers,” John Noble shared during a conference call with reporters. “By now, we’ve built up to the fact that possibly maybe Walter has to do something pretty upsetting to make this happen.”

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THE GOOD SON
With time running out and lives forever on the line, Fringe‘s final three episodes (the final two air on Jan. 18) will give fans something they never can get enough of — Bishoply bonding. (This Friday, for example, Walter volunteers to his son, “I never thought it possible I could love you more. But now I do.”)

“The way that [Walter's] relationship with Peter plays out in the next two episodes, and particularly in the finale, is really quite remarkable,” Noble effused. “I know that the fans love the relationship between Peter and Walter so much, and we certainly paid homage to that and brought it home, I believe, really strongly.” The actor said he has “beautiful moments” with Olivia and Astrid, as well.

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A GRAND FINALE
Noble acknowledges that the cast was “apprehensive,” to say the least, about reading the script for the series finale, titled “An Enemy of Fate,” since expectations can be so high. But once delivered and consumed, it proved to be out of this (or any) world.

“I can honestly say that it was everything I had hoped it could possibly be,” he said. “It tied up our character lines, it tied up the great story arc…. I was extremely elated.”

So, does Fringe go out with a bang, as showrunner Joel Wyman has indicated? “It’s certainly going [out] with a bang,” Noble assured. “I hope history will judge it as one of the great finales of all time. I really believe they will.”

As for Walter’s individual fate, he allowed this: “If you had asked me in Season 1 where I thought Walter should finish up, it would have been exactly where he does. That’s the remarkable thing — it’s the perfect arc for Walter.” (With reporting by Vlada Gelman)

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Comments (44)

  • I’m pretty sure Walter’s gonna sacrifice himself for the greater good :(

    Comment by Amy – January 10, 2013 05:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Actually, the greatest sacrifice Walter could make would be to lose Peter.

    Comment by ScrubsGuy – January 10, 2013 05:44 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree with ScrubsGuy. The entire Fringe universe started when Walter went to the other side to save Peter. He made the selfish decision to save one person when both universes would be destroyed. I think the finale will come down to Peter having to make a similar decision, and I think he’ll “be a better man than his father” (what his Mom used to tell him and what Olivia said to him in Latin after waking up from being dead during season 2) by sacrificing himself to save everyone from the Observers. I’ll be very sad when it’s over, but I can’t wait to see the last 3 hours!

      Comment by John – January 10, 2013 07:35 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • It was Greek not Latin. ;)

        Comment by coil – January 11, 2013 12:06 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Actually, Walter has already proved that he is willing to sacrifice Peter for the greater good – when he closed the machine believing that it would send Peter away. Walter started out the series as someone who did things in the name of science – the man we have see Walter become is more likely to do what he needs to do in the name of his family. I say Walter sacrifices himself to send his family home.

        Comment by Trista – January 11, 2013 06:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • They’re all going to lose each other. The only way this can end logically, presuming the plan succeeds, is that all the events we have seen involving Walter during Peter’s childhood would go away. The breach between universes, the damage caused by said breach, and, as such, the Fringe Division on both sides would go away.

      Peter would be in the red universe with ‘our’ Walter and Olivia in the blue. I’d love to see a happy ending, but if it plays out like it is set up to, I don’t see a logical possibility of one. Gonna be a downer all the way around.

      Comment by SadPanda – January 12, 2013 01:01 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Especially since they finally acknowledged last week that “the boy” who was important was never Peter. He was never this critical cog Walter thought he was.

      Comment by Cody K Greenberg – January 14, 2013 08:16 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • John,
    Not so fast. It started when September distracted Walternate. Had he not, Peter would simply be alive in his original universe.

    Comment by DadzBoyz – January 10, 2013 07:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Boom!!! THISSSSSS!

      Comment by Eric – January 10, 2013 07:52 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • By that token, we could say that Walter only saw and kidnapped Peter that because he invented the window to the other universe. =)

      Comment by ScrubsGuy – January 10, 2013 09:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • No, he would’ve died in his original universe if Walter didn’t take him. He had the same disease that killed Peter in “this” universe.

      Comment by John – January 10, 2013 11:33 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • No, he wouldn’t have died, because Walternate created a cure. If it hadn’t been for September distracting him, he would have saved his son.

        Comment by Sam – January 11, 2013 12:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Yes, he would’ve died because September distracted Walternate, and he didn’t know that he had found a cure. You proved my point.

          Comment by John – January 11, 2013 02:50 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • John is correct. September prevented Walternate from seeing the cure, so neither Peter would have been saved.

            Comment by Cody K Greenberg – January 14, 2013 08:18 PM PDT  
    • That’s one thing that confuses me.

      When Peter went inside September’s head, September told him that Henry was an anomaly, that he was never supposed to get together with Bolivia, and that he was meant to be with Olivia, but at the same time he tells him that his distracting Walternate was a mistake, that Walter was not supposed to jump universes to save him and take him away.

      If September didn’t distract Walternate and Walter didn’t take Peter, then he would have never met Olivia! He could have very well ended with Bolivia and have Henry, instead of Henrietta.

      It is his coupling with Olivia and Henrietta’s birth that is the anomaly, not his being with Bolivia and having Henry.

      Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 04:23 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Well, Walter already knew of the other universe’s existence. It seems likely to me that sooner or later there would have been contact. The “old” Walter might’ve done it just because it was an interesting challange OR they would’ve found the machine regardless (doesn’t matter whether over there or over here). There are quite a few possibilities for Peter to end up with our Olivia in the “original original” timeline.
        But I agree with you in one point: September said that Henry was born to the wrong Olivia. It indicates that Henry should’ve been our Olivia’s baby. This has been buggin me for a while..

        Comment by Rob (@Fringenos) – January 11, 2013 05:15 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I’m not sure that old Walter would have breached the wall between realities. He knew how dangerous it was. The only reason he did it was to save Peter. Old Walter was well aware of what would happen if the wall between universes was broken (i.e. The Pattern), so there is no way he would have done it himself or allow anyone else to do it. The only reason he did it was due to his grief over Peter’s death.

          The question would be, how could have Peter and Bolivia meet in the over there universe. Unlike Olivia, Bolivia never took part in Walter’s experiments in Jacksonville, for one, so they wouldn’t have met as children. For another, without the Pattern (i.e. the breach) there would be no Fringe Division over there, so would Bolivia have been an FBI agent? Even if she was, without the Pattern, physics wouldn’t be wonky and she would have had no reason to seek Walternate to help Scott.. who for all we know didn’t even exist Over There!!

          September’s allegations are full of plot holes, lol.

          I cant imagine a sequence of events in which Bolivia and Peter would ever meet without the Pattern that wouldn’t feel forced.

          Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 05:22 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • If Peter had never been in “our” universe, the paired universes from last season would have eventually been the true universe. That’s what Peter’s total erasure indicated.

        So, if Peter had been saved by Walternate rather than Walter, I believe that the paired universes would have still occurred in the way that they occurred in the timeline without Peter. But Peter from the other universe would have not been dead, he would have been alive.

        The question is … what was the important event that September was there to witness but destroyed? Obviously, the discovery of the cure which allows Walternate to save Peter. If Peter had been saved in the alternate universe, and then the two universes paired, Peter would have still have been able to meet Olivia.

        Is the important event the saving of Peter so that he can meet and fall in love with Olivia, so that Etta would be born as a baby of both universes? Every attempt to ‘save’ the universes has resulted in the pairing up of Peter and Olivia. But they are all corruptions of the timeline that September was there intending to witness the birth of.

        Comment by DH – January 11, 2013 07:58 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I’m with you in your theory except for *why* the paired universes would still have occurred. The bridge was only made to help heal the red universe because Walter crossed over. So what would make them pair up if Walter doesn’t cross over?

          Comment by Katherine215 – January 11, 2013 08:09 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Do you think that Walter would have been able to resist attempting to contact the other universe, once he knew about it, even without the need to save Peter? I don’t, given what we know about him. The knowledge of the other universe and the technology to see it already existed before September corrupted the timeline.

            Comment by DH – January 11, 2013 08:15 AM PDT  
          • I disagree. I see no reason for why Walter would crossover. He told the guys in suits or military, I forget what they were, how dangerous doing so was. He had no reason to risk destroying reality out of curiosity.

            To continue my earlier post, I see no way in which Peter and Bolivia could ever meet. Her life was far too different than Olivia’s even before Walter took him, and Walternate, without William Bell, was also a different person, so his life was taking him elsewhere (Walter only did the Jacksonville experiments because of the war with the other universe, so Walternate would have never experimented on Bolivia and she would have never been within reach of Peter).

            The question would then become, how could Peter and Olivia meet? I reiterate, Walter would have never opened the doorway between worlds, there is no way. Could Walternate have opened the doorway between worlds had he found it? If he had, then Peter and Olivia could have met, somehow.

            Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 08:31 AM PDT  
        • To summarize: I think the correct timeline is the one in which …

          a. Walternate saves Peter, thus proceeding along a timeline which is similar to but not identical to the timeline of season 4.
          b. The bridge is formed, in whatever way it was formed despite the absence of Peter from the timeline of season 4.
          c. Since Peter is alive in the other universe and Walternate probably still the Minister of Science there, he has some involvement in the Fringe team from Walternate’s side.
          d. As a result of that involvement, he meets/falls in love with Olivia.
          e. Etta is born as a child of both universes.

          There have been indications that the people of the two universes are slightly differently on very deep levels: the vibrations in different keys and etc. So, what is Etta? What is her importance? Is her combination heritage part of what made her able to resist reading by the Observers?

          Comment by DH – January 11, 2013 08:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • there can’t be a bridge without the machine, and the machine only exists because Walter from the future built it to prevent the destruction of the other side, which was destroyed because of his crossing over to save Peter, which he had to do because September distracted Walternate.

            Change THAT event, and nothing happens, or at least things would have happeend differently.

            Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 08:33 AM PDT  
          • @Michael Sacal

            I think we could come up with all sorts of possibilities, but since there’s only three episodes left and not a whole new series to show the “real” timeline and how it differs from the ones we’ve seen, I’m going to throw out the feel-good explanation.

            Somehow, in the real timeline, the two universes eventually come together mutually. Not as a result of nefarious actions, or war against one another–interactions from the outset of mutual awareness are those of diplomacy/friendship/whatever. The machine/bridge was created in these timelines as a result of needing to heal/rebalance … could a machine/bridge that ensures balance have instead been developed in the true timeline?

            Comment by DH – January 11, 2013 09:01 AM PDT  
          • it’s not enough for the machine to exist, you also need to be able to send it back in time, which requires wormholes and the like. everything boils down to Walter crossing over to the other universe. if he doesn’t do it, Fringe becomes something else. And the only reason he did it was because September distracted Walternate.

            Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 10:14 AM PDT  
    • September was the cause of everything by distracting Walternate.

      Comment by dadzboyz – January 11, 2013 10:21 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • indeed.

        Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 10:53 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • an added…observation about season 4. The only reason why the Fringe division’s HQ exists is because it was a condition Peter demanded of Broyles in season 3. Once Peter ceased to exist, so should have the entire room! lol

          Comment by Michael Sacal – January 11, 2013 10:59 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Peter would be alive in the red universe, not the blue (original). Blue Peter died, which was the catalyst for Walter watching Walternate and seeing the September intervention.

      Comment by SadPanda – January 12, 2013 01:05 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • oooo, who is September, really? Hmmm, I wonder.

    Comment by prish – January 10, 2013 08:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Just for the record: I am not for any ending that involves Peter not existing. That would upset me to no end.

    Comment by Michelle – January 10, 2013 08:47 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Agreed. Holding out hope that this doesn’t happen as I can’t imagine most people being satisfied with this ending. And it sounds like the EP is pretty confident that people will be happy with the ending. Otherwise we’re going to end up in a LOST-esque debate about whether the ending sucked and they were dead the whole time. :-)

      Comment by Jules – January 11, 2013 07:42 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • THE BOY MUST LIVE!

    Comment by Claire – January 10, 2013 10:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • So that he can sacrifice himself in the future to defeat the Observers.

      Comment by John – January 10, 2013 11:34 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • He’s already sacrificed himself once – I think the universe has proven that Peter is important.

        Comment by Trista – January 11, 2013 06:13 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • But maybe “the boy” that must live is the Observer child?

          Comment by Brooke – January 11, 2013 07:07 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • The same thought crossed my mind last episode.

            Comment by Steph – January 11, 2013 08:45 AM PDT  
  • I’m so sad that this is the final three hours of Fringe. :( I’m cautiously happy that John Noble seems to be quite satisfied with the finale and he thinks it’s one of the great finales of all time. We shall see.

    Comment by SK – January 11, 2013 04:39 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • It’s obvious that Walter will die. The entire show has been about mistakes he has made out of love. In the end, in order to correct those mistakes, he will have to sacrifice himself. But, once again, it will be out of love. That’s going to be very hard to watch as I love Walter but it will be the correct ending.

    Comment by Matt – January 11, 2013 06:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I’ m also of the opinion that Walter will sacrifice himself to set things right. However it plays out, though, l’ m just so sad that Fringe is coming to an end. It’s always been such a high quality show and although the whole ensemble has always been brilliant, Walter Bishop is, in my very humblest of opinions, one of the best TV characters of all time, and John Noble’s portrayal of him never less than outstanding.

    Comment by Shazza (UK) – January 11, 2013 08:01 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I believe that even if September had not distracted Walternate Olivia and Peter would have met. Our Walter would have still done the jacksonville trials even without crossing over. He and Bell were always pushing the levels of science and playing god. So Olivia would have learned to cross over at some point in time; thus meeting Peter. She also met Peter as a child, remember she would escape by jumping dimensions – even if brief. But her turning into a battery was in the alternate time line. Granted she was shot by Walter in both lines of time.

    In any case, SUPER EXCITED for what is going to happen. Just really BUMMED it’s ending…

    Comment by Jen – January 11, 2013 09:36 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • If Walter does end up sacrificing himself, I do not consider this the “love letter to the fans” that Joel Wyman has promised. I absolutely love Walter & his character has already paid dearly for what he did. I won’t get sucked into another one of these shows.

    Comment by Kelly – January 11, 2013 08:07 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • You guys are overthinking it all. Peter is not going to die. Neither will Olivia. Walter will sacrifice himself, that has been obvious through the season.

    Comment by Katie – January 12, 2013 05:08 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • It’s all over now, of course, and I’ve had time to reflect on the entire series. Much like Lost, the couple of seasons were spent trying to get its stride and figure out where it wanted to go. Two individual episodes stood out for me…and they had the same theme: the one where Steven Root was trying to use Time to recover a lost past with his Alzheimer wife; and of course the classic White Tulip with Peter Weller trying to do the same thing. It was so gratifying that the finale used the White Tulip symbology and that the fractured scenes of playing with Etta in the park came to fruition.

    I still have White Tulip on my TiVo and watch it again from time to time. It was so delicately conceived, written, and performed it should have gotten some kind of special Emmy or something.

    Comment by Dwight W. Pitman – February 8, 2013 08:50 AM PDT  Reply To This Post

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