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True Blood Season Finale Post Mortem: Alan Ball Answers Burning Questions, Previews Season 6

True Blood Season 5 FinaleAt least a half-dozen significant characters left True Blood one way or another in Sunday’s season finale. But the biggest departure took place off screen: The episode was series creator Alan Ball’s last as showrunner. Before we let him hand over the reins to new boss Mark Hudis, though, we have one last job for him to do — to answer all of our burning questions about the finale, about the season as a whole and, since he’ll still be an exec producer, give us a sneak peek at Season 6! Okay, so we have several last jobs for him to do. Read on. He’s up to the task(s).

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TVLINE | So, is Bill God now?
I don’t want to say if he is or he isn’t. Who’s to say what Lilith really is? He is still Bill but he is something different.

TVLINE | So there is some of the old Bill in there?
It is Bill, but it is a transformed Bill. He is not a completely new person. It’s not like his memories or his experiences have been left out and he’s just a baby.

TVLINE | Can he revert back to the old Bill?
Well, that’s the question: Is he going to be evil? What does he want? What is he going to do? Will he be able to revert back to Bill? That’s for future seasons. The implication, certainly, is that he is more ferocious.

TVLINE | As you warned me back at Comic-Con, there was a lot of death in the episode — some more ambiguous than others. Did Luna die?
You’ll have to watch [next season]. We didn’t see her die.

TVLINE | And Russell? Is he really dead?
He’s gone. We may see him in flashbacks, but he bit it.

TVLINE | Also back at Comic-Con, you declined to tell me which couple you were having the most fun writing for this season because it would be too much of a spoiler. Can you now confirm it was Russell and Steve?
Yes. I love both of those actors and I thought they were hilarious and kind of touching.

TVLINE | Will Steve remain a viable character next season?
I don’t know. I’ve spoken to Mark briefly. They’ve only pitched some very broad ideas. I hope he does because I think he’s such a great character. I don’t know if he would be a big part of the season, but he definitely seems like that would be a person to bring back.

TVLINE | You really outdid yourself with Rosalyn’s death scene. Congratulations.
I think that is probably the most jaw-dropping [death] that we’ve done. Every time I see it I laugh.

TVLINE | The Pam/Tara kiss – did you know at the start of the season that it was all leading up to this?
It was in our mind at the beginning of the season, yes. We wanted to really tease it out.

TVLINE | What was it about those two characters that made them relationship material in your mind?
They both were, if not full-on lesbians, than bisexual. They both were characters with real attitude. And they both hate each other — at least they did at the beginning of the season. And that, to me, felt like it could create a lot of tension that could turn romantic towards the end.

TVLINE | Where would you personally like to see that relationship go next season?
Well, here’s the thing with relationships on True Blood: Once they happen then you have to throw a monkey-wrench into them, because to have people be happy is not that exciting.

TVLINE | But it’s your understanding that Mark is committed to that story?
All of the writers were into [them], so that is my understanding, yes.

TVLINE | Did you ever consider introducing or unmasking Warlow in the finale?
No. We didn’t want to really define Warlow until the next season.

TVLINE | So he’ll definitely figure into Season 6?
I think he’ll be kind of a big part of it.

TVLINE | Is he someone we’ve met before?
No comment.

TVLINE | With Bill heading into Big Bad territory next season, does that make Eric now the hero of True Blood?
Remains to be seen. They’ve both been heroes in their own way. Eric was kind of like a mischievous cad, but I don’t think he was ever, like, a true villain the way that Russell was or the way that Maryann was. And he’s done a lot of really heroic things himself. So I never really looked at Eric as the bad guy and Bill as the good guy – at least not since the very early seasons. But it remains to be seen what will go down with both of them.

TVLINE | A non-finale burning question — why did you write Hoyt out?
I felt like we had told his entire story. There weren’t many places we could go with him that we hadn’t been, but I love that character and I love Jim [Parrack] so much I didn’t want to kill him. He’s always been such a good soul. I wanted to have the possibility for him to return as well. But he fell in love and he couldn’t let go.

TVLINE | Did you feel like you had to write him out so viewers could more easily accept Jessica and Jason without feeling guilty?
That was not the thought, no. I thought the way that he left and the way that he made her glamour the memories out of him was pretty devastating. Also, there are so many characters on the show to serve. It felt like Hoyt had run his course for now, so we thought let’s send him off to Alaska and then if we need to bring him back as well.

TVLINE | The finale was your swan song — how are you feeling?
It’s bittersweet. It’s been such a big part of my life for so long; of course it’s hard to step away. But running that show is such a huge job and I’ve been doing it for five years straight. I just don’t think I have another season left in me. I need to re-charge. And then I’m interested in doing something new — something with different characters and a different tone. As a writer, it’s fun to create. And once you get into a long-running show with very established characters and a very established tone and format, after a while it’s a really great job but that’s what it is — a job. You’re just continuing to create the same show. I’m at the point in my life where I don’t want to work as hard. Actually, I’ve had to take a good hard look at workaholism and it’s effect on one’s mental health. [Laughs] And, also, there are things I want to do that are different. I want to try something completely different.

TVLINE | The show is in good hands with Mark?
Very good hands. And three other writers have been there since the very beginning… It’s like a having a kid go away to college.

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236 Comments
  1. mary says:

    I hope with alan ball gone the show will get better.

    • rfg_nyc says:

      I so absolutely AGREE! The show has gone so far off the rails I’m not sure I even want to watch anymore!

    • Kristin says:

      I agree. The first and second seasons were great, but the show has gone worse and I felt like AB was just really stubborn to have his way with characters instead letting them be how they were in the books (Eric, Bill, Sookie) or how the fans wanted to see the characters. AB definitely messed up Sookie/Eric romance and made it super cheesy so that people wouldn’t want to see them together. And now it seems like he made his favorite character Bill stronger than Eric. I am glad he is leaving the show and I hope that the show will improve without him.

      • Vampire_Grrl says:

        The reason the first two seasons were better (the first one particularly) is because they followed the books. I too hope that the show gets better, this season had me laughing with how ridiculous it was

        • Lberry says:

          Guys…if the show followed the books all the way through..then we wouldn’t have had a show very long..now would we. Bill, Eric, and Sookie are the story line…but evolved. If you want what’s in the books…read them again!

          • Phillipa says:

            Exactly! I mean, if the show followed the books all the way through, you would already know the end of the story… you (who read the books) would know everything already and that wouldn’t be interesting AT ALL. It’s the same thing: in a detective movie, what’s the fun point of knowing who is the killer even before the kills start?

      • Ashley says:

        Seriously? Bill may be stronger than Eric, but he’s an evil psychopath. Would you want Eric to be in his place if he meant he was stronger? That makes zero sense. Stop with the Alan Ball conspiracy theories, it’s ridiculous. A lot of people love Eric and Sookie, and still want them together. They are still the most popular True Blood couple. Alan Ball did nothing of the sort.

        • Bambi says:

          I agree to, with the season ending the way it did. The connection between Eric n Sookie needs to get closer. Not only will sook need eric strength in protection, but there blood bond warns him of danger. In season 4 we learned they loved each other, just they fear commitment. Sookie can protect herself n eric only so far. If warlow is after her too, then friendship of tara’s power might be helpful, sorry to see AB go. I think the fans will be fine as long as the new writter keep Eric n Sookie together, not just to fight evils but in there romance. Might be what helps bill back to himself or make it worst

      • Francisco says:

        The thing MANY people don’t understand from True Blood is that “loosely” inspired by Charlaine Harris Sookie Stackhouse novels. I was never meant to be a Harry Potter movie to be exact same as the book. The first season was about the same as the book (sans the death of Lafayette) and the second season was similar but the character of MaryAnn Forester was created as well Eric’s maker, which didn’t show up in the books until way way more later. You can’t watch the series having in mind the books, they’re totally two different things and they were meant to be that way. I personally like both, if you don’t like the show just stop watching it and don’t whine about it.

    • I’m glad it went off the rails, who wants something as contrived and mundane as what Charlain Harris offered over and over again. I’m thankful it was derivative and went off in exiting tangents and gave us more involved aspects to each character along with unexpected twists and turns. And I love Alan Ball’s sense of humor – let’s hope it continues to be off the rails, in a good way; that is, with substance, wit, and humor. (Not that any of your criticisms or capable of having any relationship to these particular attributes by the way.)

    • Karen says:

      This show only gets better and better. They are writing perfectly for the characters so they can bring about even more suspense with these characters. If you don’t like the show I suggest reading the books. Blows the show out of the water!!!!! And there is no Jessica in the books. Other characters who are truly exceptional that they should bring to the show because it would onlly make the show better.

    • Lafaysus says:

      I hate to have to agree because he did do some great things, but maybe if he was tired like he said he was, then that could have been a part of the problem. I think he went overboard in adding in waaaay too much stuff and too many people in one season because it was his last, and I think that hurt the show. I miss the main characters interacting with each other, and I REALLY missed seeing Lafayette. He doesn’t even mention him. That’s a bad sign… :(
      .
      I’m really hoping the new guy give Lafayette a better and bigger storyline (with some Jesus added in (a resurrection would be nice)), and that the cast comes back together again because last season was too spread out for my liking. it felt like a bloated mess. The 2 highlights were ep 8 when Jesus visited Lafayette in the car and they had a beautiful moment together. Brought tears to my eyes, and the stuff with Eric and Pam’s back story together and her grief over losing him. I hope they can come back together, well them and the rest of the cast, really.

  2. Rob says:

    “Billith” is going to be awful. I had high hopes when he exploded that the show actually went there and killed off Bill and was happy for all of 7 seconds.

  3. David says:

    Let’s see if anybody can pick up the pieces to what Alan Ball left behind.

    True Blood was such a fun and great escape its first two seasons!

    It has now turned into this convoluted monster, I hope it can become the great guilty pleasure it once was!

    • Polly says:

      If six feet under ever teached us something is that alan ball stops caring about a show after season 2.
      Happened back then, happened with TB.

      • jen says:

        “Teached”….really?

        I completely understand why you don’t get Alan Ball. He writes with intellect, which you obviously don’t understand.

        • Soj says:

          You don’t need high intellect or perfect grammar to see bad writing on tv. This is a story that was perfect as is but he ruined it. Yes, it is a fact that he ruins and abandons shows once he is tired of them. It’s probably because he doesn’t want someone to do better than him. If you can’t handle it then your intellect is what is lacking. I will never give in to another Alan Ball production again, no matter how hard it is to resist. Twice bitten and forever shy XD

          • teached troll says:

            Nope, to see bad writing on tv all you need is an opinion and the will to believe that your opinion is empirical data. You don’t like the show, others do. I stopped caring about the “writing” on this show somewhere around season 2 with all the maenad orgies.

          • Marie says:

            Not going the way you want does not equal bad writing. It’s definitely not perfect, but even at not perfect True Blood is better written than a lot of things on TV. And if you’re a book fan, I am as well, and an Eric/Sookie fan, but I still love the show.Their use of parallels, and the way they foreshadow or hint at certain events way before they happen is impressive. And the characterizations are all so real and human, and they aren’t afraid to make characters be unlikable sometimes, which I applaud them for, because it is true to real life. They don’t write those stereotypical, awful “badass” female heroine caricatures, or one dimensional characters. The actors are all phenomenal. True Blood has a lot going for it.

        • Snowflake says:

          Seriously! They probably get headaches when they try to watch and comprehend The Newsroom.

      • Dax says:

        Seasons 3-5 of Six Feet Under were really far superior to the first two.

    • TD says:

      I agree with you David ~What happened to all the friendships we loved and Fairyland Was Beautiful ~ Loved discovering All the new creatures each episode! Just too much Blood and Gore now ! They need to go back to the new creatures each episode and elemental Nature Folk ~They could learn a thing or two from The Inklings ~

      • fairy vampire fire shifter wolf troll says:

        You’re watching a different show. The gore is part of TB from the beginning. All the extra creatures, well…there are too many frankly.

      • Snowflake says:

        For real, I almost stopped watching when all the different creatures started coming out. In fact, that’s why my husband won’t watch it he thinks it’s stupid. Bring on the gore!!! They’re freaking vampires for billith sake!

    • Kristin says:

      The problem was that AB was so obsessed with Anna P and Stephen M that he just ignored the books and what fans liked and tried his hardest to shove Sookie/Bill our throats. Most fans want to see Eric and Sookie together, so he purposely messed up their relationship. I am glad he is leaving the show.

      • Ashley says:

        It’s your opinion that he messed up their relationship. There are tons of Eric and Sookie fans out there, and Eric was phenomenal in the finale. Book 5 was the worst book of the series, and if this season had followed them it would have been 90% shifter and were stuff and Eric and Sookie wouldn’t have had more interaction than they had. And the finale was great for them. I don’t get it. I really like this season, and I’m a fan of the books as well. And frankly, I think it’s pretty obvious that Eric and Sookie are on their way to a reunion, so people that want to see that need to be patient.

      • Francisco says:

        The thing MANY people don’t understand from True Blood is that “loosely” inspired by Charlaine Harris Sookie Stackhouse novels. I was never meant to be a Harry Potter movie to be exact same as the book. The first season was about the same as the book (sans the death of Lafayette) and the second season was similar but the character of MaryAnn Forester was created as well Eric’s maker, which didn’t show up in the books until way way more later. You can’t watch the series having in mind the books, they’re totally two different things and they were meant to be that way. I personally like both, if you don’t like the show just stop watching it and don’t whine about it.

    • Lberry says:

      Again…if you guys want the books…go read them. True Blood is, and was meant to be an evolving TV show!

  4. TJ says:

    Was really disappointed with Russell’s death…extremely anticlimactic for such a great character. Or previously great, anyway. Also, Nora didn’t die? Okay…pretty disappointed with the finale. None of the developments felt natural, they all felt forced. Even the Pam/Tara kiss, which I’d been hoping for since season 4, didn’t feel very developed. I hope that they get a chance to prove their chemistry next season. Kind of feeling like season six will be the last…

    • Russ says:

      I kinda like Nora now. When she was Litith crazed I was hoping she would die as soon as possible, but now that Eric saved her I find her much more enjoyable. I wouldn’t mind seeing her stay around for a while.

      • Yeah I didn’t mind Nora once she was less brainwashed. I couldn’t stand Salome, when Bill staked her I actually cheered.

      • Willa says:

        Agreed. I think her adjusting to life outside the Authority, the sibling rivalry, the “family” getting along could be hilarious. And it’s just nice to see Maid Marian on TV again.

    • andrea says:

      I think season 6 is the last True Blood series :'( I love a the characters and the actors who play them. The creator and writers are great.:D True Blood is great entertainment. One big fantasy world. I just have one criticism, the fairies, body snatchers, stripper and baby machine. I thought fairies represented goodness and magic. I’m a little confused about that.

      • Jennifer says:

        Actually truth be told, If you read any Irish/Celtic foke lore, not all faries are good! They are meschivious & steal, not the happy kiddo movie stuff, they are not Tinker Bell!!

      • Irina says:

        It’s True Blood, not Disneyland. Fairies are scary, and they are supposed to be.

  5. j says:

    Say what you want, but this season finale was one of the most exciting episodes.

      • ohlala says:

        it wasn’t just one of the most exciting episodes, it was quite possibly one of the best season finales of any show in the history of television.

        • MikeAW says:

          I want to punch you in the face for even thinking that. You ma’m/sir, need to watch more tv.

          • ohlala says:

            i watch 45 tv shows a year. i know what i’m ‘a talkin about. . . if u don’t like the direction the show is headed in, of course u’ll think the finale sucks

        • Jennifer says:

          C’mon now! I certainly respect your opinion…but “best season finales of any show in the history of television”?? Even Alan Ball would disagree. Really.

        • dallas says:

          Have you seen Breaking Bad? Have you seen The Wire? Have you seen Sopranos? Have you seen…. Anything, really?
          Finale was fun but that’s insane.

    • Suz says:

      It was the only exciting episode :) and I agree humor you have to think about requires intellect. That had been part of the shows charm , it wasn’t there this season . I missed it. Eric is my favorite character for that reason , Russell too and he’s gone.

    • Marie says:

      I think it was the best season finale ever. High tension, good pacing, all the storylines were good, and the shipper in me loved the Eric and Sookie interaction. Alan Ball’s writing for Eric was phenomenal, he really highlighted how important the people Eric loves are to him, and that includes Sookie.

  6. ashley says:

    i love Alan Ball so much. this made me cry. Billith! mygod.

  7. Chance says:

    Russells death coupled with Bill’s Resurrection made this the worst episode ever. Russell was one of the few things that made this season watchable.

    • Temperence says:

      Really? I hated insane!Russel all season, and thought the finale was by far the best epsidoes of the season.

    • MaryAnn says:

      I was SO glad to see the end of Russell. I was absolutely disgusted when he was resurrected at the beginning of the season, and I am really really glad that he is finally gone for good. I do agree with you about Bill’s resurrection though. He should either be killed off and done away with, or made to finally see the truth of what he has become.

      • Chance says:

        you were “disgusted” by his being “resurrected”? Why? Also, he wasn’t resurrected as they never killed him previously. They buried him in concrete and lied and said they killed him. He was just dug up and nursed back to health.

      • dcresident says:

        i honestly could not imagion bill gone.

    • Shari says:

      I absolutely love russels character and prayed for bills true death. Eric was awesome this season and even Sookie didn’t piss me off, I loved Lafayettes development, even the smoke monste didn’t bother me much… I don’t care for Luna’s acting, rev newlin should definitely come back next season…. Why are the vampires smelling Sookie now???

  8. James says:

    If they are going to try new things (Bill going evil) and completely new characters (Warlow), I hope they do something about The Fellowship of the Sun. They would be great villians or at least a good side story next season. I’m just throwing ideas into the mix since apparently the books don’t matter anymore… So, it’s dissapointing, but at the same time I’m wondering what are they going to do with season 6. It’s like: Could this get any worse? Let’s watch it next year!

    • Ruby says:

      I second this! I loved the Fellowship! And they HAVE to bring back Sarah Newlin if they can get Anna Camp next year. She and Maxine Fortenberry are my favorite characters!

      • didomusette says:

        Bill is my favorite! He has been since he first walked into Merlottes. I still have hope that the writers will get the story back to what it was in the beginning. Those first two seasons were the best and we all know it was because of Sookie & Bill!

        • CheriWild says:

          I totally agree with you!! Im always rooting for Bill and Sookie!! I like her with Eric just a little bit, but still love seeing Sookie and Bill together!

        • Marie says:

          No. Just no. The first two season being the best is debatable, and I think you’ll find that people who think that cite less characters and supernaturals as being the reason, so less storylines to have to deal with.That abusive and manipulative relationship is done. Bill made his choice in the finale, did you not watch? Right in front of Sookie, he told her the truth for once. And A LOT of people saw Bill’s eventual downfall coming for many seasons now. Ball never portrayed the Bill and Sookie relationship as healthy. It was a social commentary on the true nature abusive relationships and how hard it can be to get out and I don’t understand how anyone can support that just based on that alone, not to mention the atrocities Bill has committed this season and what’s come to light. Bill does not deserve Sookie, and it’s ridiculous that people think he does. The ship has sunk.

        • marced says:

          I hope there is a way to bring back Bill and Sookie too, but it has been Bill Compton’s jouney what has kept me watching True Blood.

    • Barbara st hill says:

      My entire family was unhappy about russel character death. Come on you couldn’t help but love and hate him. He was the oldest vampire with wag which always change. He and lafett character always brought freshness and swag to the show. I hope the writers change their mind.

  9. Roy says:

    I was really pissed off for a second there when Bill died. So happy he came back… better than ever. Praise Billith!

  10. lorna says:

    Ummm joss ran shows from 96 (when buffybehan filming) to 04 and did a much better job.

  11. Sarah Smith says:

    You’re all burying the lead. What about the AWFUL faerie birth scene! Dumb! However I loved the rest but secretly wanted Bill to stay dead so Sookie and Eric could live happily ever after

    • Temperence says:

      The faerie birth scene was *hysterically* funny – complete with the Bon Temp Greek chorus. The first season was much more enjoyable because it took more time with everything, had vastly less plotline, used the character of Bon Temps, and had some humor – something that has been missing for several seasons now.

    • lena says:

      There is no such thing as happily ever after in True Blood. Theyd still have to fight to survive regardless if Bill was dead or not…

    • Willa says:

      Actually, I kinda thought watching the employees of Merlotte’s just drink their way through yet another supernatural WTF was hilarious. That kind of stuff used to make Arlene reach for her Bible and run for the hills, now they’re all kinda like. Huh- fairy babies in a bar, must be Sunday. I a really glad her character didn’t follow the path from the books.

    • MiT says:

      I hate to breach the boundary between actors/actresses and characters, but considering that Season 6 has not been filmed, and Anna Paquin is pregnant, that goofy Maurella scene with her having orgasms while popping out lightning babies was specifically added to accommodate Sookie’s pregnant character. Not difficult to tell that the scene was a later add-in. Looks like an afterthought.

      This means that we’ll likely have to endure a similar scene with SOOKIE’s orgasms and birthing. That is cruel and unusual torture in my opinion.

      Other than that, while I feel that there are too many open-ended storylines in this series, and I think the Warlow storyline is too predictable, (Bill descended from Warlow, creating a “diabolical” plot twist from the very beginning,) the final episode of S6 was pretty good IMO.

      • Isabel says:

        Uhm.. Sookie isn’t pregnant on the show. The actress Anna Paquin is pregnant, they are trying to hide that on the show actually (not very succesfull though xD)
        TB usually starts filming around January, Anna is due around november I believe. She won’t be preggers in S6:)

      • Lberry says:

        Um…she already had her babies..so she will be ready to fill season 6.

    • Marie says:

      Sookie and Eric can be together whether Bill is dead or not. Sookie knows the truth about Bill now, whether it takes her time to process or not. Eric and Sookie will be together again.

    • Bambi says:

      I concur, Eric n Sookie need each other for battling Bill, Warlow n whoever else think to start trouble with them, which should bring them closer together phyiscally. To many fans want to see them stay together, no matter what happens to Bill

  12. SnowboardColorado says:

    This season was far better than the previous two, looking forward to 6 and beyond.

  13. jen says:

    I can’t help but wonder that all .of you people that say, “OMG, worst season evaaaaar…” are disappointed that True Blood turned into more than just a soft core porn.

    Don’t get me wrong, all that sex was HOT, but now there is more story.

    This season was one of the best yet.

    • ingridxo23 says:

      omg i noticed that too! I totally agree!…usually shows rely on all those sex scenes cuz theyve got nothing…but finally, there is something! :))

    • Marie says:

      I have to agree. I don’t know if I think it’s the best one yet, but top two for sure and the finale was the best finale of all the True Blood seasons.

  14. Meg says:

    This was in my opinion the best finale of all! The way Sam killed Rosalyn was the best vampire killing in TB history! Amazing thanks for that she really needed to go! I was a bit pissed at the fact that bill is not really gone but hopefully Eric will take care of sookie!

  15. Jessica wimberley says:

    When are they goin to make sookie a vampire already like edward did for bella in twilight breakin dawn? I think sookie would make eric one sexy vampire sex machine!

    • jen says:

      You disappoint me, as an overall person.

    • Kelly says:

      People like you make me sick. This is not twilight…this will never be twilight.

    • booh says:

      Are you serious? Twilight? Sparkling Vampires with no use for their fangs? Oh and by the way : turn into TVD, they did that, no need for Hudi to follow that bad example!

    • ArleneG says:

      This isn’t twilight it would totally defeat the purpose of the entire show!!! We don’t tune in every Sunday to watch to stupid love story triangle between an awkward girl with one facial expression , a werewolf, and a vampire! We tune in to see blood sex and non stop drama action that makes true blood!!! If you want a twilight ending the 4th movie is about to come out go see that and I hope you enjoy it I’ll wait for next year to see more of my favorite show… True Blood>twilight not even on the same level!!!!

      • Leanne says:

        …’Twilight’ was never about a stupid love triangle. That was just a pointless storyline in the 3rd book and SMeyer probably just went there to keep Jacob relevant in the story, but it almost ruined Bella. ‘Twilight’ was always about Edward and Bella’s relationship, and Bella’s transition from a human to a vampire.

        • dallas says:

          It doesn’t matter if it’s about stupid love triangle or retarded sexist infantile duo. It is horrible, dull, offensively badly written story with no real meaning other than some silly tweeny “romance”.

        • Irina says:

          But that’s not what Sookie’s story is about. Sookie is not going to be a vampire.

    • I will stake the next human who says “Twilight.” Seriously. I will stake you even if you’re human.

      • Crystal says:

        Aren’t all people entitled to their own opinions, likes and dislikes? The same right you have to say that you’ll stake the next human (like you aren’t) who mentions “Twilight” (and here I just did) is the same right afforded to anyone else to say what they like. You do realize that there are hundreds if not more vampire lengends, myths and lore. As much as I like True blood, I also enjoyed Bram Stokers Dracula (book and movie), Twilight (loved books and movies) and Nosferatu, just to name same oh and Anne Rice’s Interview with the vampire and that entire series in book. Just saying it all depends on what someone likes or is in the mood for, just food for thought.

      • CheriWild says:

        TWILIGHT ….

  16. Ana says:

    Why couldn’t Bill just stay dead? It would have been better all-around if they would have offed that boring waste of screen time. Billith will be more annoying than Bill and Lilith combined, which is saying something. Boo!!! Kill Billith!!!!!!!!!

    • Madaline says:

      In your opinion, Bill being dead would be better. Opinions=/=Facts.

      • Ana says:

        Thanks for pointing out the obvious twit.

        • ohlala says:

          a twit is better than a twat. #teambillith

          • HazzyDee says:

            Did you seriously just “#teambilith”? Do you realise what “Bilith” will do to Season 6? He will ruin it and he will forever kill any hope of Sookie and Bill ever getting back to Season 1/2 love. #teambilith is bad and not in the “Russell is bad but soooo good” way. Bad as in BAD!

          • Ash says:

            @HazzyDee
            Most people don’t want to see that train wreck of an emotionally abusive and dysfunctional relationship that is Sookie and Bill get back together. Bill has revealed himself and getting back to the Season 1 and 2 was never the point of the show. It was a relationship based on lies. Do people not get this STILL, after this finale? Sookie never knew the real Bill. That relationship was never intended to last.

            I think Eric and Sookie will reunite in S6 and I’m rooting for them as are many others. Eric’s become a true hero without needing any accolades or credit, and he’s proven himself many times over. He loves his family and Sookie and I am looking forward the their storylines in S6.

            And frankly, finally revealing Bill as a villain is the only thing they could do to keep him relevant. There was nothing left to do with his character, unless he was to basically disappear like in the books True Blood is based on.

      • Chance says:

        However, int his instance Ana’s opinion aligns with fact. Bill is terrible, and boring and should have stayed dead.

        • Snowflake says:

          Seconded. When it looked like he died I thought it was the best finale ever, still pretty good but billith made it not so shocking. They built it up so you expected him to be ‘the one’. Then when he silverd Salome it made me think he was still really good with Eric, then when he wasnt and he melted it was awesome! Then they had to go and bring him back. Idk, I guess I’m just tired of him. Is it just me or did his accent seem to get twangier in the last few episodes?

  17. Carbie says:

    i feel the seasons are getting better and better, its too bad some people cant just enjoy the show without criticizing every little last detail.

  18. Dean Girl says:

    It was a great season finale. LOLed through most of the show. Between Jason,Lafayette, Pam, Tara, and Eric’s one liners was great. The fairy birth had me laughing as well. Bill was never One of my favorites, but wth is he now? And can Eric save him? Eric <} damn is he sexy or what people?

    • Ash says:

      I don’t think Bill can be saved. That’s what the finale was all about after all, Eric and Sookie trying to save everyone, including Bill. It didn’t work. I think the only way Bill can be stopped is with the true death.

  19. s says:

    Billith LMAO I always call him Beel but I guess I’ll start calling him Beelith now? Its not surprising to me that Beel has done this cause he always does stupid things like this. Sookie needs to wake up and see the light already. Eric on the other hand is stronger and would never hurt his family/Sookie intentionally.

    • Ash says:

      Agreed. After the events of the finale, I think Sookie is starting to see Eric clearly. The way she looked at him during their hug in the end showed me that. And she can no longer ignore the truth about Bill. She just didn’t want to believe she fell in love with someone so unlike what she thought she knew, but she did. She’ll have a lot to process, but I have faith in her and Eric.

  20. j4a2y0 says:

    i think that billith should have stayed dead… im tired or all the gay vampire stares. such a douche. awsome season otherwise, liked all the loose strings left for next season. worried the whole warlow thing is gonna suck. oh yeah, and i thought alcides skin tight vest and feathered hair was way to much. i thought he may have been a fanger cuz of that “gay vampire stare”. all in all, awsome season, cant wait for 6.

  21. purple188 says:

    My husband and I thought this was not a good season too many stories going on. Wolf pack; shifters; fairies; bill and the pregnant faires; the burning fire spirit; people killing vampires with wooden bullets. Glad Hoyt gone; glad Russell gone. Wolf pack fighting amongst each other…too much going on. The show was all over the place. Love watching Jason; Lafayette and BILL……MAKE THE SHOW SO FUNNY! Love the story line with Terra! Hope next season brings it!

  22. purple188 says:

    Oh…..and should have used Lafayette and his new powers more.

  23. jlr says:

    Lmao at billith! I was worried at the start of the season that the show had “jumped the shark”. episodes 3-7 were hard to get thru, what with all the religious talk and visions. And the hoyt storyline with the supernatural killers in obama masks, horrible. But im glad i stuck with it. I thought the finale was great and redeemed some of the interest and originality the first seasons had. And i totally agree with the less sex, more story comments. I hope they continue in a positive (and bloody) direction next year, im really curious about warlow. Worst part of the show is waiting all year and getting such a short season after all the waiting!

  24. Trubie4Life says:

    j4a2y0, this is no place for a homo-phobic rant. We are in a time when calling something “gay” in a negative fashion is so passe’. Having said that, I thought the season finale was ok. I did not like how Russell was killed. It was too quick. Sam killed the main protagonist in Season 2 when he ripped out her black heart. Sam’s Rosalyn kill wasn’t quite that good. His second best kill in TB history. I personally cannot wait to see what happens in Season 6. Damn, season 5 went way too fast!

  25. Truefan says:

    Sorry to see Russell go. He brought a lot of fun and grand drama to the show. The fairy birth scene was ridiculous. At last Sam and Luna had some good scenes. The reunion between Tara and Pam was great! Sookie has turned into a foul mouthed bore. I’m so sick of her saying, “if you ever loved me” etc. Sam’s younger brother had it right when he said,”what’s so special about her .” I liked the Sookie in the books. And please no Sookie and Eric. Eric deserves better. I like Eric and Nora. The ending was really exciting and scary. I’ll want to see what’s happening with Bill.

    • Marie says:

      Eric doesn’t love Nora like that, despite the sex, which wouldn’t happen if him and Sookie were together. It was obvious in the finale that Eric still loves Sookie, and if that didn’t convince you then Alexander Skarsgard’s post ep. interview which clearly states that Eric still loves Sookie should.

      • dallas says:

        Yes, but sadly they have zero chemistry and Sookie is better on her own anyway. I was looking forward to their relationship somewhat but in season 4 I literally had to FF through their scenes. They were absolutely unwatchable, and now the ship has sailed.

  26. Lea says:

    The finale was definitely one of the better episodes of the season..I really enjoyed it, curious to see what will happen with eric next season now that bill became billith

  27. jejehi says:

    Well they totally ruined Bill and this season has been ridiculous. Still, I look forward to whatever Ball is going to create. He’s got a lifetime of good will for SFU.

    One of my favorite things about TB were Eric and Bill together, but now it seems they won’t share these moments.

  28. selenia says:

    Brilliant, genius even, true blood is really funny and clever…..
    In my opinion I’m glad the authority is over, at least I hope it is, it was a good story but I would like to see more super natural, Maryann in season 2 was great and Necromancy was also a great story line. I’m waiting for more from the fairies. Bill and lilith could be fun! Warlow also sounds promising. I’ve not read any of the books, I wonder if they are as exiting? Eric and Sookie should keep the chemistry going. Now that Eric has the light of godric in him and Sookie is getting a bit mean. For a minute I though Sookie was going to drink lilith blood…to stop Bill……hahahaha.
    The main characters are really important to keep it grounded.
    I really don’t know what else can they bring but they have surprised me and delivered every time, from the ideas of gods, how we humans perceive them, the balances between light and dark, good and bad and all the colours in between….. curses, ghosts, spirits and energy…… wow. I would just keep on watching but I hope they do finish while is still good. I hope they don’t string it to long and loose their ground or rush to wrap it all up in the last episode, like i think they did slightly on this season, specially with pam and tara kiss and russel’s death. From the fairly new secondary characters I don’t really like Luna, Nora
    But I like: Steve, the grand mother wolf. Can’t wait for season 6.

    • MiT says:

      My views are polar opposite from yours regarding the secondary characters you mentioned. I like Luna quite a bit, I liked the renewal of Nora’s character, while Newlin is particularly irritating imo, and the grandmother is just “out there.” Doesn’t hurt as a red-blooded male that both Luna and Nora are absolute vixens, but I digress. One thing about Newlin’s character, the irritating aspect DOES make him a much more viable antagonist.

      I struggle with the little side storylines that are simply not germane to the central story, and even end in the middle of the seasons like afterthoughts. Crystal Norris/Jason/Hotshot and Terry Bellfleur/ifrit for examples.

      I felt that the entire Authority storyline was entirely too preachy and forced into the writing to express personal views. Thankfully, it’s over.

      Not everything is a complaint – I agree with you that the entire series DOES do a solid job at inspecting good and evil at many levels. I honestly have a loose guideline in my mind of how the events of S6 will transpire, but part of the draw is being pleasantly surprised when the storyline differes from what appears to be the easy predictions.

  29. tvdiva says:

    I was thrlled when Bill met the true death but disappointed when he became Billith. I truly hope next season brings a fresh new look, no hundreds of characters and plot lines to follow.

  30. Skootney says:

    love eric even more than before…YUM!!! overall a bit disappointed with the season….it had it’s ups and downs but overall disappointed and i tried really hard to like it as a whole. Hoping season 6 is better and also hoping it’s not the last season.

  31. Lisa says:

    There will never be a season as good as the first. They have gone so far away from the books, that I don’t know if it could be steered back. I can barely watch now the show is so horrible.

    • Carbie says:

      then dont watch it and keep your negative comments to yourself…

    • Leanne says:

      I thought the second season was great, the whole storyline with the married couple who were leading the Fellowship of the Sun was very interesting, and Steve and Sarah were funny characters.

    • Kelly says:

      I agree, but I also liked secong season as well, but after that the show went downhill. I hope the show improves after AB leaves.

  32. Lutkann says:

    I believe Lillith/Billith is actually Warlow…any thoughts?

    • ohlala says:

      interesting. i could see this, since warlow appeared to sookie in an ethereal form. . . maybe he’s in between different planes of existence, and he seized on bill’s temporary death to jump back into things. . .this would certainly amp up the “bad bill” story line, and make it that much harder for sookie and him to work out. . . which i really think they will, as the core couple of the show from the get-go. you don’t give couples that many ups and downs without a good pay off, in ANY show. i have my fingers crossed he’ll redeem himself somehow, but i think that the writers are indeed a little boxed in by making eric more and more worthy to be sookie’s love. it really could go anywhere at this point, and that’s what i loved about the past few seasons.

    • ashley says:

      i don’t think this is possible – Bill was turned in the 1800s, and the contract with Warlow and Sookie’s family dates back to the 1700s.

  33. Reviewedit says:

    Okay, just finished watching the last episode of the finale, definitely one of the better episodes out of the season. I don’t know why though, but after about episode 7 of the season 5 I started to feel like each episode was similar to each other and lacking some kind of spark that majority of the previous seasons had, they were just ordinary and when I thought they would get better, they didn’t. Russell’s death was, how to put it, atrocious. Such a strong and main character killed so quickly and easily. Even considering his age! I mean…come on! He deserved a more climactic and honourable death (or gruesome) than just being held by the light and staked by Eric. I did though, like how they killed off Roslyn, perfect. Billith… I must admit I did laugh at this whole concept. Interesting way to finish off the season, but hopefully with the new director it will improve and season 6 will return to the amazing Trueblood I know and love from the early days.

    • The problem with Russell was they brought him back in a season that was ALL about Bill. Russell isn’t part of Bill’s story, not really, he’s part of Eric’s and Sookie’s but Eric was shunted into the observer role for most of the season. They were all stuck around that damn conference table at The Authority. No place for characters like Russell and Eric. Russell should have been gunning for Sookie from the moment he was freed and Eric should have been blocking him at every turn until he could end him.

      Had they waited and created a real story arc about the two of them, they could have written the character in a way Denis O’Hare deserved and given us a much more satisfying end to Russell.

  34. Marion says:

    Salome was amazing ;c

  35. Maybe the new showrunner can take a few pointers from the discussion here and elsewhere: The season finale was really exciting and enjoyable (although me, personally, I would have preferred Bill to stay true dead) – in those moments when they brought the cast together again. The show totally disintegrated this season and the one before though. Please, just take noted and stop tearing the characters apart. Make the show more of a unity again.

    Or get back to the source material. Too late for that though, I’m afraid…

  36. Amy says:

    I’ll preface this by saying that I love True Blood and enjoyed the episode. But seriously… they called a section of the vampire bible “Vicissitudes”? After a season about a heretical group of vampire who worship Lilith as the first vampire? And at the end, Bill drank the last of the blood of Lilith and essentially became her? Just going to point out… was well acquainted with those concepts from the roleplaying game Vampire The Masquerade from something like… oh…. ten years ago.

  37. Way to bring down the high of last night. *sigh* Bill will come back as a super hero, saving Sookie from Warlow.

    Thanks a lot Alan. Couldn’t even give us a week of celebrating the end of Bill and the rise of evil Billith! I see your love of that character continues to cloud your artistic judgement.

    • Marie says:

      Not going to happen. Ball is just trying to give anything away. Bill is going to be one of the big villains next season, it’s pretty obvious. You saw how he was going after Sookie and Eric in the finale. And because of Lilith’s blood, he’s transformed physically and is way stronger than before.

    • Irina says:

      You poor thing. You are so glamoured by Bill Compton, you are Billusional.

  38. Jake says:

    The best part was Sam as the fly, killing that annoying as hell woman. Awesome scene!! Glad Russell is gone..he was one character that got to much screen time and was like Jim Carey..ENOUGH ALREADY!

  39. Miri says:

    Despite the overload of Bill-hate, I feel that Bill’s descent into madness (and Moyer’s portrayal of it) was one of the highlights of season 5. Judging by TB’s veiwer #s, many seem to agree. Bill is one of the the most complex,layered and interesting characters on TB and NEVER boring! I look forward to season 6 and Bill’s future. Also,nobody has mentioned Maurella’s multiple births. I assume that was a wink to the Trammel/Yager and soon to be Moyer/Paquin twins. Funny and sweet!

  40. Todd says:

    Just got into the show this year, but watched all the back seasons. I have same issue with Californication as True Blood. Not sure this will be popular to say… but here goes:

    (1) too much forced comedy. They need to focus on the drama …leading to point #2 –>
    (2) too much characterization. They need to focus on the dramatic plot… leading to point #3 –>
    (3) an ending. They need to have the story REALLY arc. not just mini-arcs…leading to point #4—>
    (4) True Blood is in the “LA Law trap”. At some point the series went from serious drama to soap opera and got weak.

    The prime time crowd are people with day-jobs. We have a dramatic level that is way high during the day!! To get our attention you have to hit us with something big and dramatic. If you want to be adult-drama you have raise the game. Right now, it’s like early MTV… hot-bodies saying nothing.

    • Rina says:

      I don’t know what you think you are watching, but True Blood IS a soap opera. And it had been a soap opera since the very first episode. The show is about the characters and their relationships, not solving some case. TB is not just a drama. It’s a successful mix of drama, comedy, horror, mystery, and erotica, just like the books that it’s based on. It has something for everyone. Also TB is one story. I mean the whole show is ONE continuous story. So everything that happens on it is a continuous arc. We won’t know what the show is really about until it ends. TB is a long-term investment, so if you are getting on board, get ready for a long, hard ride.

  41. Rlynh says:

    As much as I enjoyed Sam Merlotte, I think it’s time to write the shifters out of the show. Between the werewolves and the vampires, shifters are just a pale distraction. Turn Merlotte’s Bar over to somebody else (LaFayette, Arlene, heck even Andy Bellefleur).

  42. Ellie H says:

    I have to say I agree with a lot of the earlier comments. I have found season 5 too much of a mish-mash of stories and characters. There was no one story line you could ‘get into’.No real cliff hangers, no edge of seat suspense- nothing with any real ‘bite’ (pardon the pun)or depth. To be honest I was bored by Season 5 and have no inclination to stick with the show for season 6. Can only hope Game of Thrones does end up going the same way.

  43. Ellie H says:

    Oops, I meant I hope Game of Thrones does NOT go into decline the way TB has

  44. Theorist says:

    I think that Lilith might have wanted someone to drink her blood not because she was a powerful goddess, but because she was cursed and needed someone to drink her blood in order to gain release. As in: now that Bill consumed the blood, she is free (truly dead? a normal vampire again? idk), and he is stuck in the puddle of blood and relatively powerless. If this is true, next season would be less about Bill being evil and more about the problem of how Bill can escape the puddle, ha. I’d love to hear other ideas and/or thoughts about this :)

    • Willa says:

      Sounds like the Rumplestilskin plot from Once Upon a Time…. But when I saw that drinking the blood turned him into Lillith, I thought the same thing. She wanted out, that’s why she kept telling everyone to drink her.

  45. Jake says:

    Well you can always go and watch the pathetic (TVD) or Twilight. I personally cannot stand either, TVD is a sappy teenage drama. I like the more adult themed and oriented TB and yes I am hoping GOT rocks this season.

  46. Kari says:

    I was really hoping that Bill would just die this season! I guess that didn’t happen…

  47. PPPG says:

    ding dong the King is dead the wicked old kingS are daed. First Russell then Bill who was only reborn, in [u]my[/u] opinin, only to give Lillith life.

  48. MaryAnn says:

    From an excellent drama in the first season, “True Blood” has deteriorated into a bad soap opera. My biggest hope now is that a new showrunner will give the show new perspective and new life. The current show runner has said that the show has become just a job to him and so it is time to move on. I couldn’t agree more — the most recent season really felt like cobbled-together hack writing.

    In terms of the overall story line, my biggest hope for the series is that Bill will come back to himself by the end of this coming season, and that he and Sookie will at least find a few moments of happiness. To me, Sookie and Bill are the central characters of the main story, and having him turn evil is just not the least bit satisfying or interesting. Even if they are not together on a continuing basis, he has always felt like the love of her life, and having them get back together from time to time is extremely satisfying.

    That said, near the beginning of the season, I thought Eric would succumb and Bill was just pretending to be converted. With the way things turned out, my respect for Eric and my attachment to his character have gone way, way up, just as my respect for Bill has gone way, way down. He has shown himself to be spineless, weak, and susceptible, rejecting everything he ever believed in and everyone he ever loved for certainty and power, rejecting searching and truth. He would take redemption by evil over continual searching for redemption by good. If this season’s choice of hackneyed plot over character development persists, I would far rather see Bill receive the true death than continue indefinitely along his present course.

    In terms of secondary characters, I really have enjoyed Sam and Luna, along with her little wolf daughter, although if Alcide disappeared it would just help toward lowering the number of plot lines to something manageable. (Maybe things will get more interesting as he takes over the pack?) I love seeing Arlene happy for once (and it would be nice to rest her character a bit and let her stay in the background as a waitress), and having Andy, Lafayette, and Jason involved in whatever is going on. I am definitely looking forward to how Andy is going to handle raising four daughters and getting himself off the hook with his serious new love interest! (The fairy birth provided a welcome bit of humor — I rarely watch comdedy, and even more rarely laugh out loud at anything on tv, so this was great!) .

    And Jessica? Very, very much a favorite character now, although when she was first introduced to the series she was just annoying. I am intensely looking forward to how she fits into the overall story line for next season, along with where Eric, Nora, and Sookie go from here. So here is hoping for one coherent plot line for all the main characters next season, and no more fragmentation, with the shifters and wolves helping out the others in fighting Bill (and either redeeming or killing him in the process), and how all of this fits in with the “Big Bad” Warlow coming after Sookie (and I presume those half fairy babies as well).

    P.S. Love what kind of character Tara has turned into now that she has found her mojo!

    • Marie says:

      Bill and Sookie are over, and frankly it’s unfathomable to me how anybody could root for that after how that relationship was portrayed as one large mass deception and manipulation. Sookie never knew anything about Bill, he never told her anything and emotionally manipulated her to get her to stay with him as long as she did. She still doesn’t know a lot of his dirty secrets (his past with Lorena, his deal to become king, all the women he’s killed and betrayed, engaging in sadistic torture). Bill Compton has been show to be only a betrayer and a liar and a weak soul, which is exactly why I saw his fall to Lilith coming as the season progressed. He took pleasure in killing Salome, driving the stake in as slowly as he could, and this was before he drank the blood. And the way he manipulated Salome was an eery parallel to the way he manipulated Sookie. Salome fell for it because she thought Bill was enamored with her. She was wrong. He’s never been what he claimed to be, but people fell for the initial lie and presentation in S1, which was set up for a long term bait and switch. Sookie has been moving on from him this season, and that’s been obvious for a while now. She’s not mentioned Bill at all, and she didn’t bring up love despite the dire circumstances in the finale. She’s stronger than ever away from him, and without getting dosed with his blood which he used to mess with her head constantly. She’s getting over him and only came with Eric to the Authority because of his appeal. Bill does not deserve Sookie, and even if he’s redeemed it will only be through something drastic and it won’t get him Sookie. Sookie and Eric are closer again and Sookie is starting to see Eric clearly (and Bill for what he is), that is if the long look she gave him during their hug means what I interpreted it as, and Eric still loves Sookie as was made obvious by this ep. and was spelled out by Alexander Skarsgard in his post ep. video. Sookie will have a lot to process, but Eric and Sookie are the couple I am rooting for.

      And as for you saying that Sookie and Bill are central to the story, you are correct, but your mistake was assuming that like a lot of other shows the male lead = the romantic hero. Not the case here. Alan Ball doesn’t like to follow typical show patterns and likes to turn them on their head. And I don’t know what you mean by “getting back together from time to time”. They haven’t been together since S3, and for good reason. That doesn’t make Bill less important to the story.

      And actually, making Bill a revealed villain is one of the few ways to keep him relevant, because the Bill/Sookie stuff has sailed. He was already made king.This is s/l gives new relevance to the character.

      • Marie says:

        I would also like to add that the lies in the B/S relationship go so deep, that when you think about it you can see that noone knew the real Bill. First he was with Lorena, torturing and raping people for fun for 70 years. Then he wen to Malcolm, Liam, and Diane (as confirmed in S1 when he said he hung out with them in the 30s), then later on he became a procurer for QSA and an agent for the AVL so he could secure himself the kingship. And Sookie knows none of this, that’s the sickest part. She has no clue Bill for 30 years would procure QSA blood slaves, or his deal to become king since the 80s. He was going to marry her and never tell her about the Rattray beating or the fact that he would become king, which would essentially trap her in the relationship. He used his blood during the Rattray beating to get Sookie to fall into bed with him and to make her think he was a hero who rescued her. (Eric got Sookie to drink a couple drops of his blood but he saved her in the process, he didn’t let her get beat almost to death. He also owned up to it right afterwards and didn’t try and play the hero, even though he ACTUALLY saved Sookie’s life by taking those bullets. And he didn’t use this bond to make moves on her either. Only keep track of her. He didn’t even try and kiss her until S3, and that’s b/c he thought he was going to die.) Bill’s lies and whole deal are all very sick and twisted if you really think about it. And this isn’t even the full list of what Sookie doesn’t know either. She doesn’t know about his antics this season leading up to the finale, including that Bill tried to kill Sam and betrayed Eric and tried to forcibly convert him. Bill’s twistedness goes on and on.

  49. nellycooke@hotmail.co.uk says:

    The show needs a Blonde Female Vampire Slayer!!!

    • PPPG says:

      Someone call the Scoobies! Get Giles on the phone! Oh for the love of mike, get Xander out of the porn shop! Yeesh …. :-P ;-) 8-)

  50. Nellibly says:

    Thank God it’s over. This season went way off the rails with too many plot lines and characters acting way out of character without offering any insight as to why. It was like watching a car wreck – you know you shouldn’t look, but you can’t help yourself. I kept hoping it would get better as the season progressed, but it got harder to follow. For example, I can’t remember for the life of me why Jason is seeing his dead parents. Sookie was little more than cameo character until the last episode. Glad they could fit her in.

    • Anthony says:

      Jason can see his dead parents cos he got hit by fairy ‘magic’ and sookie was pregnant in ‘real life’ so she didn’t have much movement from her house in the show

      • Marie says:

        Yes, it’s because of the fairy elder blast Jason got hit with (that was meant for Russell) that he’s all anti vampire now. I love how people don’t pay attention and then assume that it’s a screw up. It’s obviously not going to be permanent. Jason will snap out of it somehow next season.

    • Suz says:

      I totally agree . The writers should know we like not so bright , funny Jason not crazy I hate the world Jason. I hope they don’t screw his character like Bills has been. I mean really we all read the books for a reason.

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