Exclusive: How Big Bang Theory Got the OK to Mock Spock - Plus, Boss Reacts to Besting Idol

CBS’ The Big Bang Theory took aim at two lofty targets this week: J.J. Abrams’ blockbuster Star Trek movie franchise, and American Idol. TVLine spoke with series cocreator Bill Prady about boldly going so far as to tell Spock to “Suck it” and how it felt to play David to reality-TV’s Goliath in the ratings.

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Bookending Big Bang‘s 100th episode was a scene in which Sheldon receives in the mail a life-size cardboard cut-out of Mr. Spock — except instead of the Leonard Nimoy version he ordered, he was wrongly sent the new, Zachary Quinto incarnation. And as the persnickety geek will do, he was quite verbal with his displeasure. Prady, speaking with us on the red carpet at Saturday night’s Producers Guild Awards, shared the legal trek he braved to make that moment happen:

In order to use that prop, which is a cardboard cutout of Spock [as seen] in the new movie series, you needed three approvals. You needed Paramount [Pictures], and you had to get Zach to approve it and you had to get J.J. Abrams to approve it…. The problem is we wanted to say, “Suck it. Zachary Quinto.” Normally when you send something out [for approval] you send the pages, and we’re going, “Are they going to like this?” So we called Zachary’s agent, we called Paramount, and we call J.J.’s office. I [told them], “We need to, at some point, let Sheldon begin accepting there is a new Spock in the world, and we’re going to have him start by not liking it at all. So if you’re game, and you let us use it, we will begin the process of him coming to grips with Zachary Quinto as Spock.” And we got a message back immediately from Zach and J.J. saying they loved the idea.

Might Quinto have loved the idea enough to one day cameo as himself à la Star Trek: The Next Generation alum Wil Wheaton, who in the Big Bang universe draws similar disapproval from Sheldon? Says Prady: “We would love for all famous people that we like to be on the show. Always.”

Doesn’t Zachary Quinto Have to Guest on Big Bang Theory Now? And More TV Questions!

Turning to the memorable episode’s Nielsen numbersBig Bang this Thursday drew a 5.3 in the coveted 18-to-49 demo, versus Idol‘s 5.2 in primetime’s opening half hour — Prady said, “The job is about going to work and making a really good TV show…. But you do get like a little team pride. It’s a little ‘Detroit Tigers-in-the-World Series,’ you know? You cheer on your team, and what you are really cheering is an amazing fan base that has been coming to the show strong this year, and that’s a really good feeling.”

So, were any high-fives traded at Big Bang HQ? “We did not high-five, because we’re nerds and we don’t do that,” Prady reported. “But I think at one point someone went, ‘Oh, yeah.’ I think there was a soft-spoken, ‘Oh, yeah.'” (Reporting by Paula Carvajal)

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  1. Toto says:

    I’ve been devoted to Idol from the beginning, but that all came to a screeching halt when it aired against TBBT. The gang from Pasadena trumps Idol. maybe they can work that into the rock, paper, lizard, Spock elimination.

  2. beh says:

    Stopped watching Idol after they added the dirty old man.

  3. I can’t stand to watch another season and have JLo & company be so incredibly mean to a singer when she was able to get to third place.

    • JJ says:

      I’m not stating this as fact, but the judges saw her being herself off camera. If the TV viewers perceived her as ruthless or worse, maybe the judges saw even more evidence of that. It doesn’t make it right, but enough people saw her on TV, so if she deserves a career she’ll have one. Winning wasn’t necessary for many past runners up to have careers.

    • Musica1 says:

      Somebody who works at the show said she was the biggest brat they’ve ever had on the show. She was Very unpleasant to work with and apparently thought she was better than everyone else.

      • Terry says:

        I call total Bullsheet on that. There is no way anyone would ever think or say anything like that about Hailz. No way! For evidence you can watch any post idol interview she has done, starting with Idoloonies. I’m calling you out as just another bitter James fan trying to spread blatant lies.

        • Emma says:

          I agree with Terry, I don’t believe for a second anyone said that about Haley! I admit I’m biased, I’m a huge fan of hers, but I’ve probably seen every interview she’s done since idol and there is no stuck-up on that girl. None. She is sweet, warm hearted, down to earth, and 100% adorkable.

    • Ruby says:

      Who are you talking about?

        • Joseph says:

          Idol had gotten very hard to watch due to the DIVA factor,

          Normally that meant each season you had one black chick that was the DIVA you could just hate and mock , plus you might have one other singer (Danny G ) being a good example that you just wanted to get hit by a bus.

          But last year , the DIVA mode was pretty horrible

          Haley Reinhart, Jacob Lusk, Casey Abrams, Pia Toscano, were all pretty horrible.

          The you have the creepy stuff of the show , Karen Rodriguez finding her family given english caption even though they were talking in ENGLISH ! The lap dances for Steven Tyler who may be a wonderful guy but came off sleezy with the girls.

          There were only a few singers that did not make my skin crawl and they were Scott McCreery, Lauren Alaina & Stephano Langone, the balance either were DIVAS or relied to much on their backstory.

  4. Rita says:

    I am hoping for some real constructive criticism instead of what we witnessed last year. Yes Simon could be caustic and sometimes over the top but frankly welcome to that business and sadly he was right most of the time. I know they do not want to squelch their dreams but if it is real honest criticism than that won’t happen and will ONKY if you dont have what it takes to make it..

    • Musica1 says:

      Simon didn’t give honest criticism. He never gave one comment that would help a singer see what he was doing wrong, which is what criticism would do. He hated anything that wasn’t pop. (He hated Carrie Underwood.) He had pat phrases that he would use all the time. He also would praise a person he wanted to push to the end even when they had terrible weeks, and would give bad comments to anybody he wanted to stop, even on their good weeks.

  5. Rita says:

    oopsss ONLY and yes Denise in some part of what you said I agree with. They would criticize her unfairly while NOT doing the same to the others especially Lauren and Scotty..

  6. E says:

    The spock-bit was really funny, loved it

  7. Ariel says:

    I’m love JJ and Zach! That JJ and Zach loved the idea makes me suspect they watch the show, which makes me ridiculously happy for some reason. Geek factor I guess.

  8. Lindsey says:

    How did this funny article about TBBT turn into a bunch of comments about crap like American Idol? Anyway, I’d love to see Zachary Quinto on TBBT!

  9. Thomas says:

    Didn’t Levar Burton do walk on too???

  10. Sara says:

    My husband watches this show much more than I do…. I’m just posting here because I love the Detroit Tigers shout-out in Bill Prady’s answer. Go Tigers! :)

  11. Julie says:

    I think it was hilarious that Zack was trending on twitter during the episode too! I’m glad he accepted to go with it because we got yet another fantastic BBT moment during the episode! Laughed all the way through it!
    And I would be SOOOO excited to see him appear on the show!! I hope they can fit him in it some time!

  12. emily says:

    yeah tigers!

  13. MelindaB says:

    Wil Wheaton is no longer Sheldon’s enemy–they made up and became friends during his latest appearance, and Brent Spiner became the hated member of the Star Trek universe.

  14. Barb says:

    As a real life Trek fan, I have to say this: These guys have to show up at a Star Trek Fan Film shoot. Seriously, if they were real people, they’d be at the Star Trek: Phase II shoot in June in Upstate New York. Sheldon would be dogging the Phase II Spock, who is Zack’s double in the movie. Phase II has had over 100 million views of their internet show. I can’t imagine these guys NOT showing if they were real.

  15. JayH says:

    Count me as one BBT fan who would love to see Matt Smith or David Tennant show up. Or, more plausibly, Howard could add Karen Gillan to his fantasy list….

  16. Ruby says:

    Would kill for ZQ to show up on TBBT. Match made in heaven.

    • Toto says:

      I think the ultimate would be for the guys to encounter Leonard Nimoy and Wm. Shatner having a meal at The Cheesecake Factory.

      • Sable says:

        I big yes to this. I’ve been hoping we’d see a Leonard Nimoy appearance even though he has retired. Big Bang Theory is one of my short list of must watch tv.

  17. Karen says:

    Love big bang!!! It never gets old. We watch all the reruns every day. There is never any good shows on any more. Thanks Big Bang!!!!

  18. Bill says:

    Seriously, Zachary Quinto is a much better man than me..if I just came out of the closet and someone wanted to use the phrase “Suck it” about me on a national TV show, I’d really have to think about that. I’m hopeful that’s now what the folks at BBT were going for, but as soon as I heard that phrase, that’s what I thought.

    • Maddie says:

      Really? Must people walk on eggshells about everything and worry about everything being offensive? It was a very funny Sheldon comment. Why make more of it? Personally, that didn’t cross my mind at all.

    • jj says:

      I did not think of that at all. Keep in mind which character said it. Sheldon would A)not even realise that Zach came out, B)wouldn’t intentionally make a sexual related put down.

      and given the context of how it was said, there was no reason to think of it sexually.

  19. Jerri says:

    When will TBBT have Nate Fillion and the crew from Serenity on the show? Also, what about Cmdr Riker?

    • Sable says:

      I’d love it, but it’s kind of difficult since this is an ABC show and Nathan’s is CBS and Adam Baldwin is NBC. Summer Glau has already been on, but she’s joining Grey’s Anatomy, another ABC show, so she might return. It would be hilarious to see the guys come up against Gina Torres’ Zoe.

  20. TK says:

    poor Sheldon. I’ve had a Leonard Nimoy Spock cardboard cutout for years.


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