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Ghosts‘ Season 2 finale left fans with a big cliffhanger to ponder until the CBS comedy returns for its third season.
At the end of the episode, Sam and Jay sat in their car and agreed not to take an offer from the Four Seasons to sell the Woodstone estate. Now that the ghosts have become like family, they don’t want to leave them. As the couple talked about how much the spirits have come to mean to them, a blinding white light suddenly beamed down over their house.
“Oh my God, I think one of the ghosts just got sucked off!” a shocked Sam exclaimed. (Press PLAY above to watch the scene and read TVLine’s full finale recap here.)
While Jay hoped that it was Trevor who went off into the great beyond, there are a lot of other candidates for who might have possibly moved on to Heaven. Now that he and Isaac are engaged, perhaps Nigel got closure on his unfinished business and was “sucked off”? Maybe Stephanie the teenage attic ghost is so happy with her basement beau that her spirit left this realm? Or is the show daring enough to bid goodbye to one of its series-regular ghosts?!
Of course, the answers to these questions won’t be revealed until the Season 3 premiere (airing this fall, hopefully!). But until then, we want to know who you think is the victim of the finale cliffhanger. Cast your vote in the following poll, then hit the comments with all your theories!
In light of the current budget-cutting on CBS — who forced the entire cast of “Blue Bloods” to give up a chunk of their future salaries — and are keeping only two of the large “Bob Hearts Abishola” cast as regulars next season — they could save a LOT of money by having “Ghosts” be seen from Jay’s perspective — and just watch Sam talking to the ghosts (which we can’t see either)!!
That totally sounds like something a TV exec would suggest they do. Not necessarily let people go completely but bump some to recurring and not use them all in every episode.
They were doing that at the beginning of season 1, but there was a fan outcry and now all the ghosts are in every episode, although not featured.
There’s another possibility: no one got sucked off, and one of the ghosts they’ve mentioned who had gotten sucked off before Sam inherited the house could have come down. If Hetty’s husband can come up temporarily from having gone down, surely the reverse can be true!
I thought about that but it means investing more in the show during a depressed economy so I dont think so.
A single episode from Jay’s perspective would be pretty interesting. Especially to drive home the point that got brought up a few episodes ago, he’s lonely. Yes, he and the contractor are opening a restaurant but time will tell if that’s a permanent fix or just a band-aid.
This is a great idea.
That would be a huge mistake. The ghosts are the best part of the series, not Sam and Jay. I’d stop watching if they did.
Same
Do people really need to add “jk” to the end of every joke now?
Possible, although Blue Bloods is a really old show, which makes the cast expensive just because of baked in raises. Bob Hearts Abishola is in season 5, again with larger baked in salaries. Ghosts it the #2 show for CBS and BHA is number 8. I’m not saying they won’t cut the cast for financial reasons, but Ghosts should be in a stronger position to hold all its cast.
Blue Bloods is also filmed in NYC, and Bob Hearts Abishola in LA, while Ghosts is filmed in Quebec, which reduces production costs tremendously.
Yeah, I’d watch that. Not.
That’s not the case with BHA, they know this is it for Blue Bloods and they’ve went on for so long they probably don’t have nothing else to do for Selleck’s character. Back to BHA, they have such a large cast instead of them dividing them into 5 episodes each except Bob and Abishola was an easy way out. I like my version better. I would have divided the cast with a spinoff called MaxDot (maybe) which leaves the remaining to be on BHA instead of this awful not funny thing arriving next season
Sorry they aren’t trying to save money with Ghosts. They did better in the demo with their finale then Sheldon this past Thursday night. So that’s not the issue!!! I think it’s Nigel almost 99% sure!
Yet execs salaries keep rising funny that
I hope it is Nigel but I can’t think of a reason why his unfinished business is done. He is rude and condescending to all the other ghosts and doesn’t see or want to acknowledge the true friendships they have. Isaac appears to be the only one that likes him and everyone else tolerates him for Isaac’s sake b
I thought that Stephanie’s arc had a sweet conclusion. Aging is also more noticeable with younger actors. So I could see it being her – and maybe her basement boyfriend, too? I could also see it being a random basement ghost. It better not be Nigel!
The actress that plays Stephanie is in her 20s. Aging isn’t really an issue there.
I thought it might just be her boyfriend and thus leaving her heartbroken. Perhaps back to sleep for a while, perhaps ready to do more damage to others in relationships.
I bet it’s not Nigel, because if getting engaged was what gave him resolution he would’ve been zapped upward immediately at that point, and he wasn’t.
I bet the first episode of the next season goes back and lets us see what happens up to the point Sam and Jay saw, and keeps faking us out about who it’s going to be. I bet it does turn out to be one of the “guest” ghosts like prom ghost or Crash.
Don’t think it would be Crash because the show hasn’t developed enough of his character yet for the audience to care whether or not he gets sucked off.
Nigel. No way they’re getting rid of one of the main characters.
I put this in another thread, but to repeat myself
Chances of ghosts we know being the one sucked off
Hetty – virtually none. We don’t even know how she died. She hasn’t shown enough significant growth to “deserve” to be sucked off. She’s a pretty break out character, so I can’t see them getting rid of her.
Thorfinn – Again pretty much nil. He had no real resolution that would “fix” whatever is tying him here in this episode.
Trevor – Same as Thorfinn, plus he, like Hetty, hasn’t shown enough growth to get an earned ascent.
Pete – If walking his daughter down the aisle didn’t do it, I don’t know what in this episode would prompt him being sucked off
Flower – I’m not sure she will ever get “sober” enough to deal with her issues and that certainly didn’t happen here.
Sasappis – Like Hetty, we don’t have a good back story on him again not knowing how he died, let alone what could be holding him here.
Alberta – Slightly possible. They solved one of her big motivations for staying when she found out who murdered her. She could, conceivably, decide that she was ready to go. I think there is more story here and her leaving would take away the only African American character, so unlikely.
Issac – He has admitted he was gay. He has discovered that the wife that he used as a beard loved him anyway. He has fallen in love and committed himself to Nigel. All of those may mean he has solved the issues keeping him here. However, this would reek of “bury your gays”, even though they are already dead, and that would leave a bad taste in my mouth. Plus Issac is very front and center as a character and pretty popular.
Secondary characters
Nigel – He has obtained happiness here, but the “bury your gays” issue is a problem with him as well.
Nancy – Didn’t add a lot to the inheritance storyline. She didn’t seemingly have any great personal revelations to justify her leaving. However, she was in this episode for no discernible reason, which may have been a way to have us remember she is around, so her being sucked off means something.
Prom Girl and Crash – They are too far from the main storyline to make an impact if they leave. It’s possible, but would be a bit of a cop out.
But all of your points are built on the premise that ghost needs to resolve unfinished business to move on. We have no evidence to support that premise on this show.
I think the ghosts explained this to Sam at some point- perhaps when Thorfinn thought the burial of his remains would result in it – but also this is seen in the episode “Sam’s Mom” – “Remember when Harold finally forgave his brother for running off with his wife? Whoosh. Up he went.” And so Sam’s mom thinks maybe she can move on by getting Sam to forgive her, but it doesn’t happen – until the end, after they’ve chatted some more, when her mom says “I just want you to be happy.” And after Sam reveals she IS happy, the mom moves on.
I don’t know that I would consider that unfinished business. I’d probably say they achieved what was most precious to them. In the first case, letting go of the resentment that had festered and forgiving his brother set him free. His brother was probably very precious to him so being able to forgive him and think of him as a brother again would him achieve that. For Sam’s mom, seeing Sam happy was the most important thing for her. Once she saw that Sam was happy and cared for she was able to move on. Given how that episode went up until that point, I don’t even think she knew what was most precious to her. That could be how they explain some of the Ghosts remaining after their business seems finished. There must be something that is most important to them that for many, even they aren’t aware of. For instance, maybe Trevor needs to see his (almost?) fiancée and find a way to apologize to her. He briefly mentioned a woman he was serious with but he wasn’t ready to settle down because he had a lot of life to live. He died soon after. He might have some feelings of guilt for hurting her and regrets about what could’ve been that even he isn’t aware of. Perhaps seeing her happy and gaining her forgiveness will turn out to be what’s most important to him. It really seems to be a subconscious reason that keeps the Ghosts there. Even the business they think they need to finish isn’t what they needed. Perhaps it’s not about that at all.
Samantha’s mom…
You have some great points. While I do think it could be a very minor character (I mentioned prom girl’s basement ghost boyfriend above), I do think Nigel is very possible. Of the finale storylines, Isaac/Nigel and Alberta are most possible – the first with engagement, the second for a solved murder followed by forgiving Hetty. But I agree it would be blows to diversity for either Isaac or Alberta to go, and while Nigel somewhat also fits the same idea, I think there was some foreshadowing when Isaac talked about not wanting to live forever with a broken heart. And he was reluctant as he thought about break-ups but what does it do to him to know that he made Nigel so happy that Nigel could move on – but then to wonder why Nigel would but he wouldn’t? It opens up some storylines for him. So I do think Nigel is perhaps most likely if it’s someone we saw in that episode and not a total misdirect.
The folks in this thread are thinking too much. Yes it’s about resolution of life’s issues, but it’s more about character popularity, ratings, budgets and, to some extent, diversity. The producers of the show are well aware of this and know who butters their bread.
I think at some point they will need to suck off a main ghost either because an actor wants to leave or the character really does just deserve a happy conclusion, but I don’t think they would do that without Sam getting to say a proper goodbye. I also think they would send Isaac and Nigel together, or it would just be sad. That being said, I don’t really have any good ideas of who it will be. Can’t wait to find out! Hope the writers can get back to writing soon.
In the UK version, a main character was “sucked off” in season 3. However, it was after she learned how to use her voice and speak up. If I recall correctly, the character was named Mary. She looked a bit like one of the basement dwellers, but wasn’t. We don’t have an exact US version of Mary. So my only guess would be Nigel and/or Issac or Alberta.
Season 4.
Offing Nigel would be tantamount to embracing the ‘Bury Your Gays’ trope… and consequently a HUGE mistake. They can’t be that dumb.
Diversity in everything is good. Having political correctness drive art, without specific intent, is not.
Exactly. I think it is important to have diversity in shows, and this show is so great about that. But anytime a gay character dies is not always “bury your gays.” Having real diversity means giving real, fully fleshed-out stories to all characters, not just having the “gay best friend” or other stereotypical characters as tokens. Sometimes, that means a story arc will end with a character death. And they can’t all be dismissed as some kind of discrimination.
And yet shows ARE that dumb these days
It’s not a question of money. They’ve only done two seasons and the cast is still on their original contracts. Besides, as Sam says, the ghosts are like family, and getting rid of one of the main ones would infuriate the show’s fans. My money’s on one of the basement ghosts (other than Betsy Sodaro).
IMO it will be Nigel. I know people will be upset for Isaac, but Nigel isn’t very pleasant or well-liked by the others. I’m not sure he was intended to be Isaac’s soulmate. Instead of a traditional love story, I think that perhaps the story Ghosts was ultimately telling through this couple was one of self-love and acceptance. Isaac grew a lot. He learned to accept himself and embrace honest love and risk getting his heart broken. All of these were foreign to him until Nigel. Perhaps Nigel’s purpose was to help Isaac come to that realization. This is not a “bury your gays” thing. It is a long overdue coming out story of love and acceptance, but it may not have a happy ever after. That’s reality. Grief and loss is also a part of love sometimes. Isaac going through that is not “ani-gay” it is human. Nigel confronted and forgave his killer. He learned to compromise with Americans. He fell in love and got engaged. Perhaps his business is finished. It makes a lot of sense. I don’t think it will be any of the main ghosts. It could be Crash, but I don’t know why he’d get sucked off. He’s really done nothing. I think the writers have shown they know what they’re doing so whatever the resolution I hope viewers have faith and don’t jump on a hate train due to race, gender or sexuality. None of those things should guarantee a character’s stay. It should be about the story.
They’re not getting rid of the same sex couple. That’s definitely not happening. I am trying to think about a cast member that something was resolved in this episode, that would cause them to move on. Alberta solved her murder case, Pete walked his daughter down the aisle, and Isaac fully embraced his relationship.
I hope its Stephanie and her basement ghost love interest. I am not interested in loosing any of the main cast yet, but Stephanie’s story feels done (and I didn’t love what her character brought to the show).
I think this is a transition from being about what the ghosts did in their lives, to better understanding the rules of their existence. Alberta’s murder has been solved, this is the next big mystery.
This. Everyone keeps talking about unfinished business and all that, but how many times have we all been sitting here these last couple seasons thinking they’ve found closure on this or that aspect of their lives…and yet look at that, they’re all still here. Unfinished business may be a factor in why they’re still around, but that doesn’t automatically mean it’s the ONLY factor. Plus, just because they resolve some of their biggest life mysteries, that doesn’t mean that all their business is finished completely. There may still be other, more minor elements of their lives, or even their afterlives, that they haven’t resolved yet, too. Not all unfinished business has to be dramatic or big in nature, after all.
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Plus, this is a really light show. It’d be too sad if any of the main ghosts were to go, or if Isaac were to lose Nigel shortly after they finally took that next big step, or whatever. I know that this happened on the BBC version, but I think that show generally tends to go darker than the U.S. version does. I just don’t think that kind of sad loss would really fit this show, not unless, again, an actor wanted to leave for some reason. I honestly don’t care if it’s a cop out if it’s a minor ghost who gets sucked off or if it turns out to be nobody, I’m fine with that. If none of the actors are looking to leave, then let’s just let this show stay its lighter self and let any emotional/poignant moments come from other means instead.
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Honestly, I’m coming around to the theory that nobody got sucked off and that that light is signaling something else entirely. We know that people can come up from Hell for a visit, and Molly came down from above this season via a séance, so maybe somebody else is coming down for a visit or to warn the ghosts about something or whatever. I can see that, and I think that could be an interesting storyline to kick off next season.
Nancy, aka one of the basement ghosts. She makes the most sense since she’s a named character and had a decent amount of screen time in season 2. I highly doubt they’d get rid of a series regular (unless one of the actors asked to be written out.)
I don’t think any of the ghosts were sucked off. I understand why so many think it’s this one or another.. but, based on the series premier, if you’re going up, it happens right away. Then Thor’s funeral episode..the ghosts thought it was happening right after the fire lit his bones. That leads me to believe that being sucked off would have happened as soon as Alberta solved her murder, or forgave her long time bff for harboring the secret. If it were Isaac or Nigel, or even both together, it seems it would’ve happened right after the engagement. I believe that one of three things occured:
1. The light came, but the ghost decided to stay with their Woodstone family.
2. A guest dies and either goes or doesn’t.
3. A visitor from above pops in.
Obviously, I have zero say in what happens.. but, I hope the cast stays intact.
We also don’t know what happened while Sam and Jay were in the car that could have resulted in the “sucking off.” I really don’t want any of the main ghosts to go. I love them all. But at the same time, there’s a tiny part of me that will think it’s a really lame move to have this cliffhanger and then come back in the fall and it was just one of the minor character ghosts.
I agree it would be lame.. unless like said in another writer’s post above, we start the new season watching what was happening in the house while Sam & Jay were out. Then it might make sense if it’s a basement ghost or something. I really think something else is going on.
Yeah that would be terrible if we have to wait that long just for a basement ghost or minor character.
I 100% agree with you! I think it is a fake out – the same way the writers gave a split second hope Jay could see Pete at the beginning of season 2. I think someone came down, OR, a guest passed on.
Nigel, he’s found all he ever wanted you could say that about Isaac. Though, the other ghosts had to point it out to him.
Never in my life would I imagine my 79 year old mother asking me “So who do you think was sucked off?”, but she did, after asking me if I had seen the episode (whew!). Like many others, I think it’s Nigel. I don’t think it was Stephanie because we didn’t see her in the episode.
I was thinking either Nigel or the other British officer who was in the shed and had a thing for nigel
Writers, can we PLEASE PLEASE come up with a better phrase for going into the afterlife than being “sucked off”?
But it’s so funny! And Trevor loves it! 😂
It is literally the joke term from the original BBC series. It won’t be changed.
But then it would be missing the point that the older ghosts – Hetty, Isaac, Alberta, Sass etc – don’t understand the contemporary usage of that phrase… much like how Alberta keeps saying “going down on us!” in reference to Hell. Therein lies the (admittedly juvenile, but very funny) humor.
It’s alberta. They solved her murder so now clearly she’s ready to move on. It will be terrible writing if it’s a basement ghost or a minor character.
Maybe it is not a ghost getting sucked off. Rather, perhaps it is a previously unseen ghost returning to the mansion for some reason. Maybe a former lover of Nigel’s who was killed on the property is sent back down because of the engagement of Nigel and Isaac. They brought the maid back down in one episode. Could happen again.
I hadn’t thought of that.
I think it could be a misdirect; that instead of someone leaving someone arrived temporarily; like when the maid returned on Halloween.
If it was someone leaving I’d lean toward Stephanie, Nigel, a basement ghost or Jenkins the other British soldier.
I think it is so obvious that it’s Nigel who got sucked off. He and Issac are at a good place and Issac took the big emotional risk of proposing. In a way, their story is finished unless they make Nigel a full time character.
I think Hetty is gone because her guilt about knowing who murdered Alberta has been resolved and her conscience is now clear.
Issac would be my guess – he resolved everything he needed to and embraced his true self plus having him sucked off now would mean that Sam doesn’t have him there to help write the book on his life