Dexter Premiere Post Mortem: EP Talks 'Extremely Vulnerable' Dex, Deb's Savior, Dr. Vogel's Agenda

Dexter Season 8 SpoilersWarning: This story contains spoilers from Dexter’s Season 8 premiere. If you’ve yet to watch, avert your eyes now.

Dexter kicked off its eighth and final season on Sunday with an unrelenting installment that left viewers with a slew of burning questions: Will Dexter ever be able to salvage his relationship with his estranged sister? How far gone is Deb? And what is the deal with “psychopath whisperer” Dr. Evelyn Vogel?

Here, Dexter executive producer Sara Colleton chats with TVLine about the premiere (why is Miami Metro’s new doc so knowledgeable on The Code?) and beyond (spoiler alert: there is still hope for Dex and Deb moving forward).

TVLINE | Talk about the genesis of Dr. Vogel and the importance of bringing her on this season.
You’re always looking at the pieces that you have that were set up in Year 1 and how, in a way that feels natural, they can be expounded upon. It’s a very sophisticated idea behind the code, and Harry is a deeply emotional, generous-hearted, loving soul. The notion that there was someone with a more scientific bent to be involved felt real. And not to take anything away from Harry, because he saved Dexter’s life. It was his love and his dedication that gave Dexter his life, and that can never be reduced.

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TVLINE | Will Harry explain to Dexter why he never mentioned this outsider?
I feel like that’s a three-parter question. [Laughs] Harry’s sole wish was to protect Dexter and to have him feel as real as possible. So, to bring in a neural psychiatrist at that early age would have made him feel like a specimen. It was out of the very best intentions and love and desire to protect Dexter that he never shared this with him.

TVLINE | Can we trust Dr. Vogel? Or should we worry about her true agenda?
Well, you know… it will unfold, but she has an agenda. She has come back into Dexter’s life because she needs his help, and she is highly seductive because she’s trained on how to work with someone like Dexter. Plus, she knows he’s extremely vulnerable at this point, so she’s able to manipulate him. But for our fans, it will be interesting to see how that relationship grows or evolves.

TVLINE | How does the presence of this maternal figure impact Dexter?
Don’t forget, at age 3, his birth mother was murdered in the container, and Harry’s wife Doris died when he was very young… So, he’s never really had a mother. When this woman comes into his life, it’s when he is feeling his most lonely. Deb has rejected him and he despairs that he’ll ever, ever get her back in his life. He’s really feeling his human side. He is filled with guilt and remorse and responsibility. It’s hard for him to cope with these things, and by himself, no less. Debra has been his North Star, and all of a sudden, she’s gone… He’s so yearning to feel some acceptance from someone, and when Dr. Vogel eventually says to him, “You’re perfect,” how much more seductive can you get for someone who’s never had a mother and has always felt like he never fit in?

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TVLINE | How far down this dark path will we go before Deb and Dexter find their way back to each other?
It’s going to be about mid-season. There is a certain degree of bounce-back, but then it is, oddly enough, more intense and more in sync than they’ve ever been. Because now there are no lies, there are no questions, there’s nothing between them except for the incredible bond that has always existed. And for Deb, the dark and treacherous path that opened up in front of her the moment she walked in the church at the end of Season 6 has been a dark journey of self-discovery for her. In some ways, they are more bound together than ever.

TVLINE | Is there hope for Deb?
There’s definitely hope for Deb. She needed to do her own atonement for the decision that she made, which was either LaGuerta or her brother. And Dr. Vogel becomes very helpful with Deb.Dexter Season 8 Spoilers Deb Don’t forget, Harry was also very concerned about bringing Dexter into their life and how his having to spend so much time on Dexter affected Deb’s childhood. So, Vogel has an insight into Deb, too, and she becomes enormously helpful in bringing them back together again.

TVLINE | After seasons at odds, have Quinn and Dexter finally found some common ground through Deb’s downfall?
Yes, their mutual love of Deb is something that bonds them. Quinn will never have the capacity to understand someone as complicated as Dexter. But they’ve come to have, not a grudging respect for each other, but a real respect for each other.

TVLINE | Poor Jamie. It seems like Quinn may only have eyes for his ex.
Oh, you know…There is always a one-and-only. [Laughs]

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TVLINE | Harrison got a glimpse of who his father really is in the premiere. Is that something that will continue to come up?
We wanted to examine it in a way that is more adult, so we needed to make a little bit of leap so that Harrison could have the cognitive ability to be able to think that through and be able to say that. It makes his scenes with Dexter have real emotional impact. If it’s a completely unaware child who’s not really verbal yet, then Dexter can get away with a heck of a lot more. Dexter Season 8 SpoilersBut when the kid is smart and aware and watching everything and verbal, then Dexter has to be very mindful of what he’s doing, and it throws some interesting complications throughout the season. And it allows for father and son to have some really lovely chats, you know?

TVLINE | Angel and most of Miami Metro seem to be coping with LaGuerta’s death fairly well. Has that been pushed to the backburner, or should we expect more fallout?
We’re jumping ahead, so we’re moving past that, but it’s not to say that Batista forgets LaGuerta. Their relationship had come full circle from being married to being friends. But it’s the irony that you give everything, your life included, and what, you get a cement bench? [Laughs] It makes you aware that you have to do it for yourself, because you’re never going to get any glory, you’re never gonna get any acknowledgement. You have to do it for the love of the game, and if there’s one thing that Angel has decided, it’s to come back for the love of the game. When Mike was murdered, it flipped him out and wanted him to get out of the force, but now it’s made him, more than ever, want to be on the side of the angels. No pun intended. [Laughs]

TVLINE | Showtime boss David Nevins recently said that this season is “harvesting seeds that were planted many years ago.” Does that apply to more than just Dexter’s origins and Harry’s code?
I think it is Harry’s code and the fundamental questions that were really presented in that first year. But nothing major. For Season 8 to bring in anything that’s more major than the Dr. Vogel character would be trickery, I think, and none of us would want to do that. What he meant, and what we’re doing, is that anything that was introduced in that first season — which was all mythology — we will be wrapping up in the course of this year.

TVLINE | Will we see any nods to, say, Trinity or Rita or Brian Moser?
They all informed who Dexter is, but we’re very much in the present tense in Season 8. If there’s a Dexter voiceover about something, fans of the show know what that’s in reference to. They know what he’s learned in past years, but without going back in a very specific kind of way.

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  1. Pat D. says:

    Wow…this looks to be a damn good final season if the first ep is any indication. I hate to say it, but I think Dex is going to at least try to kill Deb. Probably after she comes in to confess to the offing of LaGuerta (as seen in the teasers at the end of the premiere).

    • Lisa G says:

      I disagree. That’s the one line Dex can’t cross. I think he’d rather kill himself than Deb.

      It looks like she goes to Quinn when she wants to confess. I’m guessing that because he loves her he won’t let her officially confess, and that decision will lead Quinn to have to work with Dexter to protect Deb from her own conscience. Strange bedfellows indeed.

  2. Beth says:

    Superb acting by Jennifer Carpenter, she needs someone (not Dexter) to depend on and I think that will end up being Quinn again. This is the first time they have ever let dexter examine what he has done to Deb and realize its not okay and all is not forgiven. I am thinking on an off chance that Dexter becomes so unhinged and does try to do something to Deb, it will be Quinn who ends up doing him in. Just a theory. Great season opener.

    • Ruby says:

      Jennifer Carpenter IS this show. And she’s always been wonderful, but she was PHENOMENAL in this ep, and also last season’s finale.

  3. Bender says:

    I really want Dexter to get in his boat with Harrison and just go to the Bahamas or somewhere like that in the series finale and retire from life on a beach. But I know that’s wishful thinking

  4. DarkDefender says:

    I enjoyed the premiere tonight and I am intrigued to see how Vogel and Deb will fit into Dexter’s demise. He will not off himself (MCH has expressed this as well as Dexter when he killed Brian), so it has to be at the hand of someone else. I believe Deb and he will reunite and she won’t confess to killing LaGuerta, unless Dex is dead. She may, however, confess to killing Hannah (in defense of Dex) and I believe that act will help her to understand Dexter, becuase she will like killing someone who she perceives as a killer – like Dex and the code – which will bond them even further. At least that’s how I’d like to see it played out.

  5. A says:

    I find this Dr. Vogel character very interesting and am looking forward to seeing her throughout this season. Nice twist with her being the one who created the code. I really want to know if anyone other than Deb will find out who Dexter really is by the end. Also does it seem like they gave up on Laguerta’s murder investigation a little too easily?

  6. Reblogged this on HORROR BOOM and commented:
    We did like those childhood drawings towards the rather bleak ending of the episode…

  7. paco says:

    realmente increíble, la lastima que esta sea la ultima temporada, aunque podrían hacer una nueva serie basada en el hijo de dexter que de seguro dara de q hablar esta temporada y dejara abierta alguna que otra puerta abierta….

  8. Rae says:

    I loved the premiere…this season is going to be amazing! I am intrigued by Dr. Vogel and already think she is a great addition!

    Deb is not going to confess to killing LaGuerta…that was just editing trying to make you think she will. Jennifer Carpenter was amazing last night!

    I don’t think they “gave up” on the LaGuerta investigation too easily. At the end of season 7 which I watched over the weekend to refresh up on, she was deep into investigating Dexter and she had Jimenez released from prison to try and trap Dexter. She got caught up in it and got too deep and got killed by “Jimenez”. There’s nothing for Miami Metro to investigate. It was open and shut to them.

    I think Dexter should get away with it in the end. I don’t want him to be killed, kill himself, or go to prison. I want him to keep his life in Miami or if he can’t do that, perhaps for Deb’s sake, I hope we find him in Argentina with Hannah.

    • A says:

      The thought that some of us don’t want Dexter to die and want him to continue his messed up life is a really disturbing one. I honestly don’t know. Sometimes I want him to live in the end and other times I just think to myself what the hell’s wrong with me that I want a serial killer to live. I know it’s a TV show, but its still disturbing how attached we get to such a dangerous/horrific character.

      • Kyrril C says:

        I think the reason to this is because we have such an insight to who dexter really is. we see alot more than just the killings. Is he just a serial killer? or is he a vigilante? is there even a difference? we all enjoy shows where someone kills all the baddies with his superhuman skills, and dexter doesnt seem to be any different. I hope he doesnt die. if superman gets to live, and batman gets to live, then so should dexter.

    • Lisa G says:

      If they ran the ballistics they would have seen that Deb’s service revolver killed LaGuerta. Poor police work.

      • Tookie Clothespin says:

        Not if Dexter and Deb took the time to pull the bullet out.

        • plance says:

          I noticed in the preview for the coming episodes that there was a bullet hole in the side of the shipping container (looked like Deb went to go have a look). Perhaps the bullet wasn’t found.

  9. Tipper05 says:

    Are we seeing Harrison as a future serial killer in the making??

    • JB14 says:

      My thoughts exactly! History repeating itself with Harrison growing into a killer after everything he’s witnessed. That’s how the show should end, maybe Deb could be like Harry and help Harrison deal with the urges via a code?

  10. Brett says:

    The best part of the episode was Deb’s password to her computer. =D

    • John says:

      I´m sorry, but it wasn´t. I don´t understand why these men who did this serial absolutelly fantastic btw, can´t make something more inteligent than this stupid fail with easy password to an important account.

      • A says:

        I don’t understand why you’re taking such an issue with it. Sure she could have made it more secure and less obvious but that password was perfect. It was so……..Deb. After watching her for seven seasons, it shouldn’t be a surprise that something like that would be her password especially with the filthy mouth she has. I thought it was hilarious.

  11. tfever says:

    If Dexter isn’t around next season.Then Deb should replace him as the killer.

  12. Serena L. Cohern says:

    Kudos to the casting director who hired Charlotte Rampling for portraying Dr, Vogel! She had me at the first close-up of her eyes and the channeling of Peter Falk’s Columbo character. Haven’t missed one episode in all seven seasons. Will really miss the show!

  13. Hi says:

    I think dex will teach deb the code and how its done and with that info, deb kills dex with his own MO and then she becomes the new “dex” and teaches harrison the stuff

  14. Savannah Brown says:

    Time to retire Dexter. After watching the third episode of Season 8, I am over it. Too much garbage mouth Deb and all her problems, not enough of Dexter. Boring. Shame, as it used to be my favorite series.