NBC’s America’s Got Talent holiday special on Monday drew 9.5 million total viewers and a 1.8 demo rating, leading the night in both measures.

Leading out of that, The Wall‘s sneak preview retained 6.5 mil and a 1.6, placing second for the night in the demo.

Over on CBS, Oprah Winfrey’s sitdown with exiting First Lady Michelle Obama drew 9.4 mil and a 1.3. Man With a Plan (6.2 mil/1.1) dipped, 2 Broke Girls (5.1 mil/1.2) was flat and Scorpion (7.5 mil/1.2) ticked up.

Pending adjustment due to NFL bumps in Washington, D.C. and Charlotte, ABC’s Great Christmas Light Fight (5.1 mil/1.2) is currently up a tenth, while The Great American Baking Show (3.6 mil/0.9) is showing significant gains. But again, football.