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Supernatural Season 11 Spoilers

Supernatural Season 11 Preview: Winchesters vs. Darkness, a 'Soured' Bromance, 'Vulnerable' Cas and More

In the midst of the Big Bad Darkness cloud hanging over Supernatural‘s Dean and Sam in Season 11 (premiering Oct. 7), there’s a silver lining: their dynamic is not “so headbutt-y” anymore , executive producer Jeremy Carver tells TVLine. (Should we send The Darkness a gift basket for uniting the brothers?)

Still, the new foe will cause major problems for the Winchesters — like making their past relationships very much present — and shake things up for the denizens of both Heaven and Hell.

Read on as Carver previews Dean and Sam’s “unholy alliances,” Castiel’s “uncomfortable” arc, Crowley’s revenge and more.

TVLINE | Dean and Sam are working together. But are things completely copacetic between them?
It’s not that I don’t think things are copacetic — they’re very much on the same page — but there are always extracurricular things going on that they have to work through. But it’s not quite so headbutt-y as it may have been in the past. They very, very much have the same agenda, and they’re both confronted at separates times during the beginning of the season with different ways of getting there. It’s figuring out how to deal with that individually and with each other. But they’re very much united in what they ultimately want.

Supernatural Season 11 SpoilersTVLINE | Are there any residual issues from what went down at the end of the Season 10 finale between Dean and Sam?
They try as hard as they can to put that behind them, particularly in the first couple episodes, understanding the shared culpability for what is happening. There is residual fallout just from what happened that they’re going to have to deal with, but not necessarily a residual anger toward each other.

TVLINE | The theme of the season is, “You can’t outrun your past,” which sounds like a very personal arc. How does that connect to the bigger storylines and mythology?
The idea of the mythology this year is presenting another Big Bad to take on, which is this Darkness. As responsible as the boys feel for having released The Darkness and how much they personally want to defeat it, they’re not going to be able to do it alone. They’re going to have to confront some figures from their past. They’re going to have to make some unexpected and unholy alliances involving folks from their past, which will have personal ramifications, as well — because these are some pretty significant figures from their past.

TVLINE | In the finale, The Darkness was this ominous black cloud. How is it going to manifest itself?
I’d rather keep that cloudy, as it were, for now. But folks will understand in the early moments of Season 11 exactly how The Darkness is going to manifest itself.

TVLINE | Not all of the show’s bad guys have immediately been confrontational, adversarial villains. Is that the case here, where maybe The Darkness isn’t all terrible?
One of the cool things about this season is how much mystery and – I’m going to make up a word here – “unknowingness” there is to what exactly is going on. There’s a lot of mystery to not only to what or who The Darkness is, but what The Darkness wants. That’s something the show takes its time building and playing with, and it really causes the brothers some fits. They desperately want to punch something;  they’re just not sure what to punch.

TVLINE | How do the angels and demon respond to this new pre-biblical entity?
I’ll just say that The Darkness is of such enormous order of Big Bad for us, in terms of its power, that I don’t think it’s talking out of turn to say that even the angels in Heaven and the demons in Hell are scared of what this thing could do to their way of life. Everyone’s got a stake in figuring out how to deal with it.

Supernatural Season 11 SpoilersTVLINE | Is Castiel working with the Winchesters in figuring out how to deal with The Darkness?
Castiel, first and foremost, has to find a way out of this spell that Rowena has cast on him — and that’s not as easy as it may sound. Being under the influence of this spell is going to lead him to some pretty uncomfortable situations. So for Castiel, we’re going to see him in something of a vulnerable state early on in the season. He is working alongside the Winchesters while at the same time trying very hard to reestablish or redefine what his place in the universe is. He is, essentially, finding a way to get his mojo back.

TVLINE | Assuming he lives, how will the Crowley and Rowena relationship develop? Will he step up and try to get payback for all her manipulations of him?
We can assume that. We saw toward the end of last season, and we’ll certainly see beginning of this season, that this bromance that we all had so much fun with, with Crowley and Dean, has soured. So we’re going to see more of a vintage Crowley here in terms of scheming, being less caring about Dean and Sam, and very much trying to figure out how he himself is going to navigate this new world where The Darkness threatens just about everything.

In terms of his relationship with his mom, I don’t think there’s any question that he harbors a grudge and will put a certain amount of effort on getting revenge on her. It’s one of the fun things to see this season is how when they eventually are in the same room again, how they relate to one another given all the bad blood. That’s one of the, I would consider, more delicious parts of the season.

TVLINE | You cast Emily Swallow as the character Amara. Who is she and how does she fit into the mythology?
I can’t say too much. That’s one we want to let play out on screen. Emily has brought the character to life in a way that we’re just thrilled over.

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  1. Drew says:

    Hmm… I was hoping for less angels/heaven and demons/hell. They both work better as abstract ideas. When they are used too much, they become kinda corny.

    • chris says:

      this exactly! the Angel storyline has been worked to death. please go away! I watch SPN for Sam & dean and the occasional baddie, I just do NOT care a whit about Castiel and his problems.

  2. Elle says:

    “TVLINE | In the finale, The Darkness was this ominous black cloud. How is it going to manifest itself?: I’d rather keep that cloudy, as it were, for now. But folks will understand in the early moments of Season 11 exactly how The Darkness is going to manifest itself.” – We already know, a woman.

    • V says:

      Except Amara isn’t being introduced until episode 3. So the Darkness is manifesting in a different way.

      • Elle says:

        I didn’t say it was her, did I?

        From the EW interview: “From what we know of the Darkness, it’s a prebiblical entity that will appear to the brothers in the form of one person, and more than likely, that person will be a woman. “

    • Kate M. says:

      Then at least we know the Darkness won’t be on the show for long.

  3. Fer cryin’ in the grog, DEAN DID NOT RELEASE THE DARKNESS. He had nothing to do with it. He was actively trying *not* to do it. That is all on Sam. Carver wrote the friggin’ script; you’d think he’d remember that!

    Now, did Dean do something potentially even bigger (reap Death)? Sure. But Death’s reaping didn’t have anything do with bringing the Darkness. Lifting the Mark did and THAT’S ON SAM.

    It’s very irritating when showrunners set up a situation they themselves wrote and then forget all about it in the three-four weeks they had between writing and producing a show’s seasons. Come on.

    • V says:

      “Are there any residual issues from what went down at the end of the Season 10 finale between Dean and Sam?” was the question, nowhere does Carver or the interviewer mention the Darkness.

      Like you mention Dean killed Death, and the Carver/Dabb have been saying that the ramifications of that are going to be dealt with.

      So yes, in the broad sense of what is going on in season 11, there is a shared culpability between the two. Sam for his hand in removing the MoC, and Dean for his in killing Death.

    • Erin says:

      But Dean started the whole mess by taking on the mark in the first place. He made that choice without knowing or caring about the consequences. They are absolutely both responsible, and it sounds like they are accepting that and trying to fix it. Sounds great to me.

      • If Sam had not proceeded with his plan to lift the Mark, against all warnings, the Darkness would not have been released. Dean was not an immediate threat that needed to be neutralized. In fact, he was in the process of removing himself permanently as any kind of threat when Sam (after a sound thrashing from the Plot-Stupid Stick) showed up to stall Dean until the Mark could be removed. So, yes, that is *all* on Sam. Dean taking the Mark makes him no more responsible for releasing the Darkness than Cain was for taking the Mark from Lucifer.

        As for the whole “shared culpability” dodge, the writers have told us jack diddly-squat about the fallout from Death’s reaping aside from a few mumbles that sum up to “Yeah, we’ll get to that at some point. Maybe.” Instead, they’ve been all about the Darkness and its effects.

        So, while I’m all for hearing more about that fallout, I don’t see anything in the above interview to indicate that’s part of the “shared culpability” Carver is talking about. Sure, it may pop up in the season premiere, but we’re talking about what *this* interview tells us concerning the season and it tells us nothing about Dean reaping Death or the consequences (which should, logically, fall directly on Dean).

        Also, feeling bad about reaping Death is not going to stop Dean being furious with Sam for going behind his back and starting yet another apocalypse. Dean didn’t get angry with Sam after Charlie died because of the Mark. He got angry with him because of Sam’s role in Charlie’s death. Losing the Mark isn’t going to make him all hunky-dory with Sam releasing the Darkness. He’s Dean Winchester, not Yoda.

    • Drew says:

      Both brothers made bad decisions. Dean chose not to take Death’s deal, which would have ended this thing nice and neatly. He then killed Death (who really never did anything to him, so that was kind of a d-bag movie). All kinds of things are messed up now, and both brothers are to blame. This is why I think that if season 12 is the last year, it could easily be about hunters (possibly even some dead ones) trying to take down the source of a lot of the world’s evil: The Winchesters.

      • Carrie says:

        I don’t think I’d want to see that. I’m pretty tired of Sam and Dean being blamed for everything and feeling guilty all the time. (Example: They were blamed for opening the door to hell at the end of Season 2, when all they did was try to stop it. Jake and Yellow Eyes opened the door.) They’ve had enormous responsibilities put on them and of course they’ve made some bad choices, but who wouldn’t? No one would handle what they’ve handled w/o making any big mistakes. They’re not the source of a lot of the world’s evil, demons are. They’ve saved thousands of people at this point, and they never do anything thinking it’s the wrong thing to do. They’re always trying to do what they think is best.

        • Drew says:

          Nobody ever thinks that they’re doing the wrong thing or that they’re the bad guy. That has never stopped anyone from slaughtering millions of people in the past.
          The brothers started out making some honest mistakes, but things have changed. Their mistakes are now driven by selfishness, with more thought of their own wants than what is best for the world. They could have rid the world of demons, but they didn’t. Why? Because they can’t let go of each other. They could have spared the world whatever evil the Darkness will bring, but they didn’t. Why? Because they can’t let go of each other. It is all about their wants.
          Don’t get me wrong, I like the Winchesters. They do a lot of good, but the bad is starting to out weigh the good. They buddy up to demons when it suits them. They use the Supernatural world for their own purposes, rather than fight it back like they used to.
          It has been a slow process for sure, but Sam and Dean have definitely been corrupted.

          • Carrie says:

            I respectfully disagree. There are absolutely people out there and characters on TV shows who know what they’re doing is wrong and just don’t care. They’re only out for #1. I think the things Dean and Sam have done that have been questionable are the things they’ve done to save each other. In that way they’ve been selfish because neither one of them wants to lose his brother (of course). I can hardly blame them for that. Anyway, they’re TV characters and they have to be flawed and make bad choices sometimes. Otherwise, the show would be very boring. When they rid the world of evil, that’s when the show ends. I still love both Winchesters and I love the show. I’m excited for the new season.

        • Penny Eaton says:

          Actually..in the case of Supernatural..personally, I think God (chuck?) is the original source of the world’s evil. Lucifer was blamed for it, but if what Death said was true about the Darkness, it was God that locked it away, and gave the original Mark to Lucifer as the key. The Mark poisoned Lucifer and turned him against Heaven, thus starting the whole concept of evil in the first place.. and if God is to blame.. then hopefully, God will appear to help make it right. Sam and Dean are human, and had the free will to make choices.. unfortunately, so many of them were bad ones..lol but while the choices had terrible consequences, they were always made out of love..not evil.. just my opinion.

      • chris says:

        well, I wouldnt say Death did nothing to Dean, he purposely put him in a predicament where he was forced to kill his BROTHER! and the gleeful way Death was acting, I would say he planned it all along,, cause seriously? Where exactly was he going to send Dean? Mars? Purgatory?

    • Joan says:

      Was Sam supposed to let Dean go completely dark though? I think Dean is responsible given he took on the mark without research or thought to all the inevitable fallout. It’s the same parallel story that Sam had in seeking revenge in Season 4. They both let revenge get the better of them ( just different seasons).

  4. bg says:

    I’m hoping if some evil characters are resurrected to help fight the darkness, that some good characters will also be resurrected to fight the darkness.

  5. Mo says:

    “One of the cool things about this season is how much mystery and – I’m going to make up a word here – “unknowingness” there is to what exactly is going on.”

    What he means is they are just making stuff up as they go and haven’t figured out what they’re doing with this season… just blah blah something darkness.

  6. ninamags says:

    Sam and Dean on the same page is fantastic! That’s the only reason to tune in, honestly. I cannot wait. Now off to buy the season 10 Blu ray. :)

  7. Vicki Allen says:

    Will the character Garth be back? His Naïveté lent more reality into the storyline in that Life isn’t all all dark or all-knowing. Garth lightens the atmosphere

  8. The Winchester brothers united and fighting together. All is right in the supernatural world! Can’t wait to see what Jensen Ackles brings to a Mark-free Dean Winchester.

  9. 49erFaithFulSexy#7 says:

    I can’t wait for Supernatural Season 11 to begin. I just want to see Sam and Dean go out there, do their thing. Of course, Sam and Dean will always have Brotherly fights, which is normal. But fighting against the same darkness is something they both will agree on.
    However, I have a feeling that Dean and Sam will disagree at some point, and begin to argue with each other, and perhaps have their own separate alliance, which might create caos. Just Waiting for OCT. 15, 2015.

  10. Tracy says:

    What about Death? Is he really dead? Who will command the Reapers? Will Dean be the new Death?

  11. Tracy says:

    I’ll miss the Dean-Crowley bromance! Jensen Ackles is the glue that holds the show together! He has chemistry with everyone!

  12. Sylls Scott says:

    I love Dean and I love when Sam and he are on the same page and in troubles !! I love when Dean and Castiel fight together and also whel Crowley helps all of them !! I love SUPERNATURAL !!!

  13. Raz says:

    This is a good way of bringing back Chuck, John Winchester, Gabe and Lucifer.