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Crazy Ex-Girlfriend Season 1 Episode 13 Rebecca Josh Kiss

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend EP Previews Rebecca and Josh's 'Very Different Reactions' to That Sudden [Spoiler]

The following post contains spoilers from Monday’s Crazy Ex-Girlfriend.

Even though Monday’s Crazy Ex-Girlfriend ended with a huge development — Rebecca and Josh kissed (!) and Greg, who’d finally admitted to himself that he was into the neurotic lawyer, watched it happen (!!) — let’s keep things in perspective.

“Our intention with the show was less to focus on the this-guy-that-guy and more to focus on the personal evolution of the characters,” showrunner Aline Brosh McKenna tells TVLine. Indeed, the hour also featured several moments of significant personal growth, both for Ms. Bunch (who faced down a childhood nemesis and took the high road in a legal battle) and other West Covinians we’ve come to know and love (looking at you, Darryl).

But forgive us for coming back to that courtroom clinch and which it might mean: After all, it looks like Rebecca might be about to get everything for which she’s schemed and planned since the beginning of the series. Read on as McKenna gives us the scoop on whether or not that’ll happen, what’s ahead for White Josh and Darryl and how the show snagged an Office star for a fun, musical cameo. 

TVLINE | Josh and Rebecca at the end of the episode — this is a huge moment for them.

TVLINE | He was really wary of her. He’s gone back and forth about what he thinks about her, so what happens now that they’ve kissed?
What’s interesting to me about it is she reverts to her final and best weapon, which is her brains and her job, which had never occurred to her until then. That’s the thing that finally gets to him. Also, it’s interesting that she actually has a sincere moment of her own coming-of-age and forgets about him for a second. She’s thinking about the fact that she’s no longer Audra Levine, that she is no longer the person that Audra Levine has been competing with her whole life. At that moment, her pursuit of Josh is a little bit on the backburner in favor of her personal evolution.

From there, we’re picking up on both those threads: where she is in her life and the kiss, which was unexpected, spins her back into her pursuit of Josh in a big way. Because basically the pursuit of Josh is a lot of carrot-and-stick… After the kiss, they have very different reactions to what happened because one thing that we know about him is that he is very conscientious and religious and thoughtful, and going forward, he’s going to have to deal with the ramifications not only on his relationship but also about how he feels about himself and the decision that he made.

TVLINE | That sounds like a lot of emotional heavy lifting for Josh that he may not be prepared for.
[Laughs] The thing about the show is that we always intended it to be this person makes a rash decision that has wide-ranging implications, not only for her but for everyone around her. And we’ve seen that her belief in him and her high opinion of him — you know, she has a much higher opinion of him than anyone in his life, including Valencia and including the people he grew up with — so the fact that she holds him in such high esteem and then also that she helps him embrace his community in the way she does in the court case, that’s very meaningful to him and it causes him to overlook any squeamishness he had at the end of the last episode.

Crazy Ex-Girlfriend -- "Josh and I Go To Los Angeles!" -- Image Number: CEG113b_0785.jpg -- Pictured (L-R): Vincent Rodriguez III as Josh, Rachel Bloom as Rebecca and Rachel Grate as Audra Levine -- Photo: Scott Everett White/The CW -- © 2016 The CW Network, LLC. All rights reserved.

TVLINE | Will we see more of Rebecca trying to be a better person during the rest of the season?
All of these love story beats from our point of view are things that push all the characters toward examining who they in what point they’re at in their life, what matters to them, what’s important, what they value, what their future is. Those things are more important, actually, than who’s kissing who. [Laughs] So she’s done something here — I think it’s interesting that the second he kisses her is the moment she took her foot off the pedal and was not thinking about him… I love that he is drawn to her in this moment of her being so intelligent and noble. And she loses and he stands by her.

He’s also judging her by the fact that she didn’t succeed, that she isn’t perfect. He sees her as this incredibly intelligent, almost perfect person, even though he knows that she’s a little wacky. But in terms of her intelligence, he really values and understands that. So the fact that he sees that she is this intelligent, noble person but she doesn’t win all the time, he really relates to that and that draws him to her as well. The kiss kind of shakes everything out and it has to be rebuilt again… obviously for Greg, as well.

TVLINE | Let’s talk about Greg. Aside from the devastation on his face at seeing the kiss, I thought it was really interesting to watch him come to terms with his feelings for Rebecca at the bar — it felt a lot like the Christmas episode and how he realized he didn’t hate his mom. But he doesn’t seem like the kind of guy who’ll stay nice and wide open after such a blow. What can you say about that?
Yeah. It’s interesting — I was reading some online reactions; some people were really mad at him last week for colluding with Valencia, even though they’re kind of right to be suspicious of her motives. There’s a great line that he has in the 12th episode where he says, “She’s into him. Why can’t anyone see that?!” He’s torn… he’s able to see through her, but it doesn’t stop him from being drawn to her. That’s gonna continue to shake out — part of it. Santino’s schedule has been light in 11, 12 and 13 we don’t see him that much. But we start to see him a lot more, especially in the last few episodes of the season. We’ll see him a ton.

TVLINE | How did the B.J. Novak cameo come about?
I know him. We were sitting in the writers’ room coming up with that bit, and thinking of somebody who would be hilarious for that. He just came to mind as someone who would be really super willing to send himself up and spoof himself. So I just emailed him. I had gotten an email from him about the show; he was congratulating us about the [Golden] Globe and he was enjoying the show, and I was like, “That’s perfect.” He’s so super funny.

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Josh and I Go to Los Angeles!TVLINE | Did you run into any challenges shooting the rap battle or the Les Miserables-esque number at the courthouse?
That episode is a giant episode for us. It’s probably the musical number we’ve done since the pilot, and that’s because we didn’t know when we wrote it whether 13 was our last episode or not. At the time, we hadn’t gotten a pickup. So we write 13 with a big musical number and a climactic emotional moment for Rebecca and Josh thinking, “Well, if this is our last episode, then we go out with a bang.”

It was a very challenging logistical shoot because we had so many extras. And then the rap battle was just sheer fun. We were really so lucky to have found Rachel Grate, who is just exactly perfect for the person who is the antithesis but also the twin of Rebecca. And she just brings such pizazz to that part. We were really blown away by her. That won’t be the last we see of Audra Levine, for sure.

TVLINE | White Josh and Darryl’s flirtation is very sweet. Will we see that continue throughout the rest of the season?
The next few episodes are big for them. It was something we had been so excited, waiting to get to, and so excited that we finally got to write those episodes. There’s an amazing song coming up for Darryl that our brilliant songwriter Adam Schlesinger wrote with Rachel. We have a lot of fun stuff coming up for them in the next few episodes.

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  1. Alicia says:

    Can’t wait to see where the show goes from here! I want Rebecca to finally get together with Josh in order to see that they are not meant to be (sorry Paula–you’re wrong; and Greg–don’t give up!). Trent was hilarious as a male version of Rebecca, letter and all. We don’t know a lot about Rebecca from before the West Covina, but I don’t think she was ever as cutthroat and mean as Audra.

    • thisismenow says:

      I absolutely agree! Greg is her endgame.

      • K says:

        On any other show, the guy she’s obsessed with would be a jerk, and the guy she doesn’t notice would be the one she’s supposed to be with. They’ve really defied expectations by making Josh so sweet and likable. Greg is nice and all, but Rebecca and Josh are totally soulmates.

        • Alicia says:

          Josh is sweet but he’s kind of a tool… Greg sees right through Rebecca’s crazy and he still likes her. I bet he would still be into her, even if he’d happen to see her eating a piece of ham off the floor.

      • Steven says:

        Um what? Josh and Rebecca are perfect. Greg is just a jerk

    • Pierce says:

      Rebecca would cheat on Greg. And Josh is the guy she would cheat on Greg with. Rebecca is simply not attracted to Greg. Maybe you’re attracted to Greg, but Rebecca isn’t.

    • I think we need to see her be with Josh to see they shouldn’t be together, but she needs to be single for a good long while IF she’s to end up with Greg. Ideally, she’d end up single and learning about herself – maybe seeing a therapist!

  2. Sheila says:

    Greg’s expression was just heartbreaking! So sad!

    Side thought, Heather has a really nice voice!

  3. Luke333 says:

    Best show. I’m surprised I’m so pro-josh when I assumed he’d be a a-hole and Greg would be her match, but he’s actually a good guy.
    More white josh and daryll

  4. Elle says:

    This show is so much fun and witty. I loved the reprise of “Settle for Me” of my favorite songs from the show. I want another song from Greg’s character, I just adore Santino’s voice. I’m not Team Josh or Team Greg just yet. I don’t mind if she doesn’t end up with either of them and the only couple the season ends with is White Josh and Darryl. Jk…Jk Rowling

  5. aherzkovich says:

    I love this TV show, and I love Greg. When (Spoiler alert) Josh kiss Rebecca, I found myself screaming nooooooo to my screen. And when he sees the kiss a bigger noooooo! Poor Greg, though I’m still #teamgreg

  6. Ann says:

    I want to see more Trent! He was hilarious! And I wanted him to finish that letter he wrote! That was so funny!

    • ninergrl6 says:

      I loved Trent too. What a brilliant twist that Rebecca’s fake boyfriend ended up being just like her. I hope he turns up again at some point.

  7. LT says:

    This show has found it’s groove…and it’s awesome!

  8. Ann says:

    I love Darryl and White Josh!
    And also… Rebecca and Greg forever!

  9. Toni says:

    I love Greg and I really want him with Rebecca. I have really come to love this show. I really want it picked up next season. I think it and Jane the Virgin are great together!