The Walking Dead Recap: Mad Monster Party

The Walking Dead Season 3 Episode 5 The GovernorEarly on in Sunday’s episode of The Walking Dead, Milton tells us (well, tells Andrea, technically), “Mere words cannot adequately describe the festivities ahead.” Nonetheless, I’m gonna try. Shall we?

PENNY FOR YOUR… GASP! | While all of Woodbury is preparing for what’s built up to be the hootenanny to end all hootenannies, the Governor is holed up in his quarters brushing the hair of — holy crap! — his zombified daughter, Penny! When she becomes too agitated (as opposed to just agitated enough?), he puts a hood over her head, pulls her close and assures her that “Daddy still loves you.” Sick stuff. Sweet… but sick.

HATCHET JOB | Back at the prison, Rick, looking ever more rabid, goes on a rampage, taking his axe to a whole cellblock full of walkers. When he doesn’t ever come back out, Glenn goes in after him, only to get pushed around and growled at. (To be clear, it’s Rick, not a walker, who pushes Glenn around and — quite literally — growls at him.)

A MATTER OF KNIFE AND DEATH | In Woodbury, Michonne retrieves her sword from the Governor’s office, then discovers — and dismembers — his secret stash of walkers. (Oops — sorry, it’s biters in Woodbury.) The Governor tries to play it cool, but Michonne, of course, is cooler. “People with nothing to hide,” she notes, “don’t usually feel the need to say so.” Before the day is out, she’s held her blade to the madman’s throat, argued again with Andrea about staying vs. leaving, and finally left… alone.

I GOT YOU, BABE | While Daryl decides that, instead of naming Carl’s little sister after one of the gang’s fallen members, they should call her “Lil’ Asskicker,” Rick discovers the room where Lori gave birth and died. As luck would have it, there just happens to be a bloated walker nearby on whom he can work out some issues by violently reenacting his wife’s C-section.

THAT’S ENTERTAINMENT! | Still reeling from Michonne’s departure, Andrea is horrified when the main attraction of the Woodbury block party is revealed: It’s basically Fight Club, with Merle taking on another tough guy while chained-up zombies grab at whichever of them gets too close. Though the Governor tells her (essentially), “Chillax! All of the biters’ teeth have been removed!” she still gives the show a big ol’ thumbs-down.

IS IT ME YOU’RE LOOKING FOR? | When Rick finally gets so tuckered out from his all-day walkerpalooza that he sits down, the unthinkable happens: The telephone rings. All together now: What the… ?!

Okay, your turn. What did you think of the episode? Is it heartbreaking or horrifying (or both?) that the Governor is still trying to bond with his daughter? Did you wanna smack Andrea or what when she wouldn’t listen to Michonne’s gut? And, even though they dug a grave for Carol along with Lori and T-Dog, I don’t think she’s really dead. Do you? Hit the comments with your, um, comments.

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  1. Ann says:

    My theory about Carol: whoever was watching her practice the c-section on a walker grabbed her when she got separated from the group/T-Dogg.

  2. thhplostER says:

    Okay, don’t know when Carol died? Thought T-Dog saved her and that she’d be around this episode… but now Daryl’s laying the Cherokee rose on her grave? What the heck happened there?

    • Lo says:

      She’s not dead, the group just assumes she is because T-Dog was found eaten and she hadn’t regrouped with them. But mark my words, she ain’t dead! TWD would never kill her character off-screen, so I’m guessing Ann is right and she got nabbed by whoever was watching her practice the C-section on the walker 2 eps ago.

      • Vann says:

        They killed her daughter off screen though so its likely they did the same for her.

        • Lo says:

          Sofia getting killed off-screen is precisely why they won’t go that route with Carol; that, and the fact that they have spent over a season building up the Darrrel/Carol relationship, so if they kill one, it’ll be gruesome and on-screen, guaranteed. But it’s irrelevant because the preview for next week showed them finding her knife in a walker…. the implication being she’s still alive in/out there somewhere.

        • SJ says:

          I think Sofia’s attack would’ve been too much! Watching a child actually get attack is a bit much even for this show. They would definitely have shown Carol if she got bitten!!

      • KLB says:

        The person watching her was Andrew, the prisoner that Oscar shot in last week’s episode. I think she’s alive, just hasn’t been able to make her way back to others yet.

      • Joe says:

        well your comment is correct but laurie got shot off screen by carl you never saw laurie get shot i think laurie is another andrew you thought andrew was dead but he was not i think laurie got saved by carol and that one zombie was fat becouse it ate the after birth or when your body gets hungry it starts eating your mucle and bone and your belly gets bigger and plus that zombie could of never ate the bone of laurie where is lauries body i think she i still alive?

    • Kevin king says:

      I think he only buried her headscarf that he picks up. His way of having something/anything physical of hers to place in her grave???

  3. Cassie says:

    My husband made me laugh when it cut to black– “It’s probably a telemarketer.”

  4. Andrew says:


  5. Cashisking says:

    I thought the walker snacked on Lori. That’s why no body and Rick found the bullet on the floor. That’s why he was tearing up the walkers stomach

    • Lo says:

      I thought the same thing, but then I was like “He couldn’t have eaten ALL of her, where’s the rest of her?!” I thought maybe Carl didn’t shoot her after all….. hopefully that’ll get answered tho

      • Amy says:

        There was a blood trail where the body was dragged off. Maybe the full zombie had eaten part of Lori’s body and other zombies dragged away the rest

        • MrMank says:

          Since when do walkers drag bodies away? What, do they decide they’re full and save the rest for later? Doesn’t that require the same amount of brain function that would allow them to, say, climb stairs, ladders, etc.?

          • ThomasEarl says:

            So agree. There has to be something else going on. A single walker couldn’t finish off a grown human ~ bones and clothing not left behind. And if they could put a snack away for later, they’re smart enough to pay taxes.

          • J2 says:

            or… the blood could be from the walker dragging itself down the hallway.

          • jessica19890 says:

            They climb stairs .. In one of the first episodes the get up to the roof were Merle is ..

    • Steven says:

      On the Talking Dead the guy that directed this episode said that the bullet Rick found was the one that came from Carl, the walker that ate Lori ate all of her (including her hair which was stuck to his mouth if you noticed), which is why he was so bloated and couldn’t even get up.

      • Lo says:

        Wow, that is ridiculous and shame on TWD for that move! In all the seasons, a single walker (even multiple ones) have never eaten a WHOLE body, but all of a sudden this one eats Lori- hair, clothes, bones and all? I have to say, that is so disappointing, especially when in the same episode, TWO walkers (maybe 3?) hadn’t finished working on T-Dawg. And somehow, the walker spit out the bullet in her skull? Epic fail!

        • I agree it is kind of stupid for the do that. I don’t think a zombie could have eaten a whole person. At least not in the amount of time it took for Maggie to get outside with the baby and for Rick to come back. Theoretically yes, if the zombie had no other competition for the meal, no other zombies eating her, or hell even if other zombies did have part of her and ran off after she was gone. It does seem unlikely that they would eat the bones though. That doesn’t make any sense. The only other likely scenario would be that Carl missed the brain and she became a zombie and crawled away. Though it has been said that is not what happened it would make much more sense to say that is the reason why no pieces were found. I doubt Carl missed though and the way it was portrayed, no it makes no sense that the zombie ate all of her and left nothing behind. Although, I just remembered, you know when Daryl and Rick found that one zombie who had just had a meal when they were looking for Sophia. And they decided to cut it open and see what i ate, remember how they found the full skull of a woodchuck according to Daryl. Although that is a much smaller skull.

          Carol has to be alive. Although I’m saying this with already seeing the episode where they found her. But I knew she was alive. Though I knew there was no way that she found Lori and saved her. Lori was dead. And even if she wasn’t when Carl left without a blood transfusion she’d have died almost instantly after the baby was delivered. I’ve had 4 c-sections myself.

          No one else ever hears the phone ring and Rick here’s dead people talking to him on it. I think it’s more likely that the phone NEVER rang in the first place and he just imagined it. There are no phone lines, no phone companies for their to be any phone lines still on. Think it all threw us for a loop and that’s why the ended the episode that way. Left everyone to speculate for a while on who was on that phone. And they waited a while to show Rick answering the phone again and hearing dead people’s voices. I think it was their way of showing Rick starting to loose his mind. His subconscious telling him that he thinks everything that’s happened is his fault. It’s not. But when someone you love dies you always think about all the things you could have done different to have prevented it. Or to make peace with that person before hand. Why has there been no more mention of the phone in 2 more episodes. I think Rick knows that it wasn’t real. We will see though. I am wondering, if they do decide that it was real how they are going to explain that.

          • jessica19890 says:

            The zombie would have had some amount of time to eat the body .. After rick found out he didn’t go directly to the room .. He went on a zombie killing rampage
            For quite some time

        • Danny Madry says:

          Guys, if you watch the beginning of the episode after Lori dies, you will see Milton taking water (or just passing by it, i don’t remember) from a table with Lori clearly behind it, alive.

    • cozygal36 says:

      The walker did eat lauries body. The director talked about the scene on the “the talking dead” show that airs after the encore show. He said the walker was so stuffed he couldn’t move and had to sit back down.

    • Grace says:

      Yes, I thought so, too. All that was left was some bloody guts on the floor where Lori was.

    • Carrie says:

      Here’s what I don’t get. How did the walker find/get to Lori’s body? I know they would’ve closed the door behind them when they left her body in there. How did the walker open the door and maneuver down the stairs? I thought they only responded to sound and movement. Could he smell the blood? Has someone explained that?

    • Curly Girly says:

      You are correct, one of the producers confirmed this on The Talking Dead. That is why his belly was so bloated.

    • Name(less) says:

      actually what i’m wondering was when did they go in, find T-Dog’s body & any one elses… Lori/Carol to then bring them out & bury? There seemed to be a lot of minor details missing this week. Which is a first for tWD.

  6. Joe says:

    The preview from next week has them discovering Carol’s knife in a freshly killed walker. There’s hope!

  7. Tara says:

    Where was Lori’s body? Did the others already get it for the grave?

    • Ari says:

      Do people even pay attention to this show when they are watching it?

    • dani says:

      Yes where is Lori’s body and did Carl really shoot his mother. I do not believe one zombie ate her entire body, her clothes and bones as well. No other walkers are feasting like that. How did one walker get in the room where Lor’s body was. They are not able to open doors. Rick went right in there to find Lori’s body. there is no way a walker could have eaten her that fast. I don’t believe Lori is dead. I believe there are others at the prison that we know nothing about yet.

  8. adam says:

    I find that Woodbury scenes are quite boring sometimes, it’s just nothing like the comics just mostly talking…..

    • tripoli says:

      Have to agree with you there. I’m assuming it will pick up steam but so far it’s pretty slow. Was hoping this episode would focus mainly on what was happening at the prison. In light of what happened last week, I expected a bit more on that side of things.

    • MrMank says:

      I think it speaks to the kind of life they’re living at Woodbury. They’ve been able to insulate themselves so well that they can live relatively carefree days. I mean, if you survived the zombie apocalypse, you’d welcome a boring life. We’ve been given enough of a glimpse of The Governor’s dark side that we know some bad sh*t’s coming. This is just the calm before the storm.

    • Alan says:

      the whole point is that they are insulated from the horrors going on outside woodbury, but so far that has just been set up for whats to come. everything wont happen right away you know, they have a full season to fill out

    • Samantha says:

      Yeah I started to watch this week and it took me all day to muster up the interest. I found the first day interesting but now it’s getting old.

  9. Mo says:

    All they found of Carol was the scarf she had wrapped around her head, but since they found T-Dog’s body next to they just assumed she was killed too.

    The Governor’s a creepy creeper. Michonne is a badass & I love that about her. Andrea is an idiot for believing the wrong one.

    Daryl feeding Lil Asskicker? OMG. How did he get to be the best babysitter ever? Rick is allowed this episode to lose his sh*t but he’s got to pull it together next week. He’s got 2 kids now to take care of. And who is on the phone?????

    • BrandonLPN says:

      The phone call isn’t real. It’s Rick continuing to go batsh** crazy. He is imagining it’s Lori talking to him from beyond the grave. Auditory hallucinations.

  10. J Dogg says:

    The bullet on the floor means Carl didn’t kill Lori, she was either in the bloated walker or shes walking around as a zombie. The guy watching Carol was probably the other inmate who died last week. Carol is probably hiding somewhere

    • Cashisking says:

      Or Carl did kill her and the walker spit the bullet out while chowing down.

    • Beth says:

      Lori is not going to be walking around as a zombie. In her interview with this website Sarah Wayne Callies said she didn’t get a poster of her as a zombie from the costume guy because she never was one. I so agree that carol is alive and I think somehow the govener is in on it.

      • Alan says:

        while i believe she isnt going to be seen as a walker i would like to point out that she managed to lie with no one figuring it out for months about why she was off filming a movie while the show was still filming, whos to say she wasnt lying again

    • Steven says:

      Carl did shoot him mom after she was dead. She is not a zombie, she was eaten by the zombie that was bloated.

      • Matt welch says:

        If the bloated zombie ate Laurie then where are her clothes and bones. I know the director said he did but he is obviously throwing us off to hide the fact that Laurie awoke from her faint and dragged herself off (Carl didn’t shoot her) or carol dragged her off seeing she was still alive.

      • Matt says:

        Ok, How the hell can a walker eat clothes, hair and a human skull? get with it people, Carol stumbled upon Lori, found her alive because junior didn’t really shoot her, drug her to the infirmary, and saved her, then called every phone till rick answered…. jeez you people are dumb…

        • DeviousMJK says:

          Look closely at the first shot of the bloated zombie. There is a skinned head and neck at the end of the bloody trail! it is only visible for about 2 seconds and can’t be seen in the shot of Rick walking past it due to the low camera angle. If you pause it just as the camera pans up after Rick inspects the bullet it is pretty clear. Glenn Mazarra the director explained during Talking Dead that the walker dragged her body behind the furnace so the answer is no, he did not consume her completely.

        • DeviousMJK says:

          I was mistaken. It was Nicotero who directed this episode not Mazarra. Regardless he did make it clear LORI IS DEAD. Ironically she was possibly the most hated character on the show and now that she is gone everyone wants her to be alive. In the comic books she dies during the groups time at the prison anyway, just not the way portrayed in the series. It is important that she die so Rick can finally go bat $#!? crazy!

  11. christina says:

    I cant help but to think mabey carrol might hv found lori n mabey shes alive after all n carrol knows wt to do to take care of her.mabey carl didnt realy hv the guts to kill her .mabey i jst cnt accept shes dead but i hope thts how itll turn out.

    • M3rc Nate says:

      Lol have you people that think “Maybe Lori is alive!” read ANY of the interviews? Or other articles on this site? The actress has said shes on another project and lori is dead, and the actors on the movie shes on are like “arent you supposed to be on TWD?” and shes like (true, but she said she said it as a cover story): ” Oh , all the actors on TWD get time off to do projects”. And thats just one proof that shes dead. Let alone the many other.

      • Jenn says:

        The actress had also given interviews with how she thinks this season will bring Lori and Rick back together…. Well after she knew she was dying. So we can’t really say never.

        Also, wasn’t Sarah in Prison Break also really dead?

      • KJ says:

        Agree. She’s gone. Maybe she’ll be back in flashbacks etc. Also, Carol, not using a phone that’s probably been dead for months to call for help. Rick’s losing it. Most likely hallucinating. Carol will show up next week after she’s made her way back to the group I’m thinking.

        • Matt says:

          Have you ever lost power and had you home phone still work? I have….

          • KJ says:

            Yes I have but do you really think that the phone call is going to be from carol? hidingout in the prison somewhere with another working phone randomly calling numbers and actually reaching Rick in the exact room he’s in? Not saying a phone can’t work, but I just don’t think they’d do that.

          • James says:

            wow so ok the world went to crap and everything is gone, but hey good news sprint is still up and running, now be sure and pay your bill.

    • mike says:

      I was thinking the EXACT same thing. There’s hope!

  12. Corona says:

    Carol is still alive, Axel kidnapped her & is having some fun. He was the one watching her previously. Who’s on the phone? Lori via Ricks subconcious. Lori’s remains were inside the walkers belly. The new showrunners are ruining the show for me. Hopefully less walker kills & more story.

    • Deb says:

      I’d never thought of the prisoners kidnapping Carol, but now that you bring it up i think that’s EXACTLY what happened….even if it is you gotta feel bad for Axel or Oscar(whoever kidnapped her) because the thought of what Daryl will do when he finds out will probably give me nightmares…lol

      • J2 says:

        2 of them were very clearly dead before the invasion. 1 of them allowed for the invasion to happen and was turning the sirens on (who is also now dead). and the other 2 were with rick and darryl. unless others were also holed up unbeknownst to the surviving 5 we saw, then it’s not even possible.

    • Zak says:

      This sounds correct. the show would actually start being like the comic book

  13. JP says:

    Is itjust me, but I was really hoping when Darryl went to the grave he would say the Boondock Saints prayer

    • A.B. says:

      I Love the Boondock Saints. I’m happy that he has lasted this long on the show everything I’ve seen him in sonce Boondock Saints he’s died right off the bat. Good actor plays a great Darryl.

  14. Britta Unfiltered says:

    Carol’s not dead. No way. Lori was completely eaten by the bloated zombie. The phone call was a WTH moment, Woodbury is like the town from The Stepford Wives, but with zombie cage matches. The Governor increased exponentially in his creepiness. And so did Rick for that matter. I think him stabbing the bloated zombie who couldn’t move because he had eaten so much of Lori was him acting out what he wanted to do to Shane’s baby that killed Lori. Too dark? The Governor’s journal was a touch too close to The Shining, no? All work and no play….I had to laugh because I kept picturing Michonne saying inside her head the line from The Simpsons spoof of The Shining, “What he’s written will be a window into his madness.” (Reads journal.) “Feelin’ fine. Well, that’s a relief.”

  15. Stephanie says:

    So my question is, Where is Lori’s body? Can a walker eat everything, bone, clothes, etc for there not to be a single piece left?

    • Allie says:

      My father and I have a really intresting theory about Lori and Carol. If you watch Talking Dead, notice how they did a tribute to every character who died EXCEPT for Lori. My father thinks that Lori is not actually dead. What we think is that the walker ate Tomas’s body and found the boiler room because walkers cannot drag. They eat the corpse where it is. I’m not sure if walkers can eat clothing but I think they spit it out or something. The blood marks that looked like they were dragged; so I believe that Carol may have dragged Lori out of the room and stiched her back up. If she was practicing how to cut open for a C-section then she probably knew how to close it as well. And also, before you say Carl shot her; notice also how whenever a character on The Walking Dead dies it shows them when they die. It did not show Lori with a gunshot in her head. We don’t think Carl shot her. We think Carl shot at something else to make it seem like they shot her when they really didn’t. This would be a really cool theory. And Carol could have also failed trying to save Lori and is stuck in the infirmary. She would go to the infirmary, right?

  16. M says:

    They just confirmed on the Talking Dead that yes, the walker Rick found did eat Lori….apparently if u re watch it they put her hair on the zombie’s mouth….

  17. Kristine S. says:

    Since when do zombies eat bone?

  18. Singingal says:

    If anyone has ever seen the UK movie “doomsday”, that whole ‘staged’ walker fight for the residents of Woodbury felt quite familiar, except substituting zombies for cannibals…but they had the crowd, the cheers, the fire, and the loud music.

    Maybe Lori is calling to say she’s okay? ;)

  19. Bob says:

    It’s vital that Rick’s group find Andrea and keep her alive. She is a living douchebag detector. Look at her taste in men, Shane, Merl, the Governor. Can she ever pick em. I could see it going like this.

    Group: Should we let this new guy join us?
    Rick: I’m not sure. Andrea, how do you feel about this guy?
    Andrea: I don’t know. We just met him. He’s kind of cute though.
    Rick takes the safety off his shotgun.
    New guy to Andrea: Hay sweet cheeks. Tell em’ I’m okay. Then come over and give me a kiss.
    Andrea: Oh yea. What a stud. I wana have his baby right now.
    Rick: Fire!!!

  20. Bernice Mills says:

    So…Penny isn’t the governor’s daughter, the governor’s name isn’t really Phillip and…oh, yeah, he’s crazier than a hatful of hatters.
    And he’s all wrong! What happened to his moustache?

    Also, Andrea does have terrible taste in men. TERRIBLE. And soon, I will be able to watch this stupid, stupid episode!

  21. Anonymous says:

    Did anyone see what I was pretty sure I saw was Lori handing out Lemonade in the beginning?

    • Spoiler Junkie says:

      I saw her too and immediately thought she looked a lot like Lori.

    • Sara says:

      Omg, me too! I thought it was going to be a flashback of her and Rick meeting or something…but no..still in crazy town…

    • nwindy says:

      I thought it was a flashback too… reuse of an actor? it looks way too much like Lori to have slipped through casting without notice… and then slip through shoot day without notice… and the slip through editing without notice…

  22. Renee says:

    Great episode tonight. Glad Glenn talked so kindly about T-Dog. I miss him. And how adorable was Daryl. Overall great episode tonight, though I worry about Rick and hope the WD isn’t writing themselves into a corner with his character going off the deep end. We already have one psycho (Governor), I would hope they don’t make Rick too cray-cray. Also glad Michonne finally decided to kick it on her own, though I think Andrea is starting to realize the gravity of her situation.

  23. Kelsey says:

    That episode was awesome! Daryl holding the baby had to be one of the cutest things i have ever seen. Man i love Norman Reedus. <3

  24. Bill says:

    Lori is not dead. She’s either alive and Carol found her or she’s zombie. The first two seasons have a total of 19 episodes she supposedly died in episode three which would be 22 episodes. IMDB Has her listed being in 26 episodes so unless they do flashbacks with her in the episodes she still alive somehow.

    • Mik says:

      IMDb is a great site, but they’re usually wrong when it comes to how many episodes actors and actresses appear in.

    • Jay says:

      I’m certainly not a math wiz by any sense of the word, but that does make sense. If the first two seasons had 22 episodes, and she died in episode 4 this season, that adds up to 26.

    • Emma says:

      They have her listed because she is still in the opening credits, and will probably continue to be until the end of the season. People really need to give up these unfounded theories. Lori is dead. The walker ate her body. Let it go, seriously.

  25. Brent says:

    I love this show! Has anyone read the comics?

  26. Tim says:

    I think it’s lori on the phone I think Rick is halouscinating I think when Carl was born lori would stay at home and call Rick letting him know about there day and how Carl’s doing I can see him loosin it to the point where he’s scitzafrenic just an idea.

  27. Mik says:

    First Lexie, now Lori? What’s going on with women getting eaten on TV these days? Is it a new trend I’m not aware of?

  28. Sarah says:

    First of all, as creepy as the Governor is, I felt so sad for him when he was brushing Penny’s hair. The loss of his family obviously played a pivotal role in his craziness. He’s just clinging to the past. HATE Andrea (I used to like her too). How can someone be so stupid? It was so strange seeing Daryl holding the baby. He seems like the last person you’d see in that position. So cute though. And as for Carol, something/someone must be keeping her from the group. Otherwise I’m sure she’d have made her way back to them.

    • Jay says:

      I like theidea of Oscar and Axle holding Carol somewhere, but the other option might be that she is lost in the maze of the prison and can’t find her way back to the group. I think this might make more sense since in the scenes for next week they find a Walker with her knife in his throat. What do you think?

      • KLB says:

        Oscar or Axel had no time to grab Carol. First they were chained up outside, then they were running behind Rick and Company back up to the prison yard and then one went with Glenn while the other went with Rick to search for the generator room to shut off the sirens.

  29. Big Butt Killer says:

    Conspiracy theories on this comment section are rampant. The show is like 40 some minutes long. It’s not an HBO or SHOwtime thriller that has branching points. A cable TV show has like two directions, and we are seeing right through both of them. Take it for face value and anything else is your imagination making its own series. Enjoy it because you’ll over think it and see right through it.

  30. kate says:

    UGH! I just started watching this show on Netflix last night with my husband, and woke up, checked out my news feed and saw the spoilerrific headline >:(

  31. Dave says:

    Little perplexed that some folks think Lori is still alive. She’s gone folks, get used to it. As for Carol, I think we’ll see her again.

  32. Ben says:

    Carol needs to be not dead. I love Carol.

  33. Jenn says:

    I’m honestly surprised that there isn’t more talk of the fact that Lori could still be alive. If we go on TV Line, we are all obviously tv fanatics.

    According to TV law, you should never assume a person (especially a main character) is dead if:
    1. They are killed off screen (especially the cliche only hear the sound of the gunshot).
    2. They don’t show the body.

    Alias? Prison Break (which I might add had the same actress pulling the twist)? I’m not saying she is alive, I just can’t believe more people aren’t even a little suspicious. Especially when the only person who really could have saved her (Carol) is also missing.

    Food for thought.

    • Ken says:

      I understand how you feel… but I am pretty sure in every interview that I have read since last week’s episode, it has been confirmed that Lori is dead. One of the producers confirmed it again last night on the Talking Dead.

      • Jenn says:

        Yeah, I think she is probably dead too. But it still leaves a slight doubt in my mind. The death rule is one of the most prominent rules in tvdom, it’s hard to just dismiss.

        If anything, they left it open for her to come back if needed down the road.

  34. Dominique says:

    Lori is really and truly gone. The walker ate her, all of her, and spit out the bullet. Move on everyone. She’s really gone.

    I think it was Carol on the phone. I think she’s lost or being held in another part of the prison and has been dialing random extensions to ask for help. It would be a total waste if T-Dog died for her and she became a walker anyway. Real shame.

    I am also still curious about the tea served in Woodbury. They made such a big deal about it last time. I think it’s keeping everyone in Woodbury docile.

    • Kat says:

      Agree about Lori, she’s gone. enough already. The tea is interesting… what we really need to move on from also is this idea that carol is using the phone. I’m sure she’s alive, just hasn’t been able to get back to the group yet, but she’s not using a phone.

      • Name(less) says:

        agreed, if for no other reason than: this far into an apocolypse, you’re not even going to try & use a phone, by now you’d just naturally be assuming they’re useless.

    • Ben says:

      Apparantlt the tea is just a reference to one of the writers who drinks a lot of tea.

    • Matt says:

      Spit out the bullet and not the clothes or bones? Come on

    • james says:

      if the zombie could bite through bone dont you think the bullet made of lead… a softer and more pliable material would have had a tooth mark in it? more so when the walker/biter merle pulled the tooth from tried with little effort to even pull the 1 tooth from the cage match zombie, how could they eat bone? and the span of time between lori’s last appearance and the time rick found the bloated walker how could it consume an enitre human. shes not petite nor large by any means but wouldnt it take more than 1 zombie to consume an entire body within and this is being abit overboard 2-3 hours in the shows time. carol is a tropper hope she made it. kinda wanna see darryl and merle reuinite i think merle may settle down abit if that happens

  35. Dan says:

    Lori’s last words to Carl, “Don’t do anything that doesn’t feel right”. Maybe shooting his mother in the head didn’t feel right”. The hair in the zombie’s mouth, don’t believe everything you hear on the “taling dead”, we’ve been mislead before. Maybe the director hasn’t shown us any bodies yet, because he’s still waiting for fan response, to decide what’s best for the series.

    • Dan says:

      I for one, hope the writers bring back Lori and Carol. The focal point of this series, since day one, has been Rick’s family, struggling to survive in a horrible situation. If the writers take away that dynamic, this series may very likely fade away into oblivion.

  36. RC says:

    In the comic strip Lori lives a little bit longer so maybe she is still alive. Also, Rick said into the phone “we’re dying down here….” so I don’t think it was Carol.

  37. ALC says:

    Maybe Carl didn’t kill his mommy and then Carol found her and patched her up. Why else would they want to show her practicing cutting on a dead walker, it makes no sense. They never confirmed her to be dead before they made us think that Carl shot her. Maybe the producers are just pulling our leg! I guess we will have to wait to find out.

    • Tania says:

      What do you mean that it ‘makes no sense’? Remember that Hershel up to the point of his leg loss appeared to be teaching Carol some basic medical training. She was practicing how to perform a C section since Lori had one when delivering Carl which meant there were some complications. Rick found the remains of the bullet (the casing) that Carl shot into his mother’s head which he then pocketed in his pants. It was there that he also saw Lori’s bloody drag marks which ended right where the rather full zombie was sitting. This is why Rick went crazy stabbing it.

      If you still don’t agree with what I’m telling you, then get the facts straight from the man himself, Greg Nicotero. If you can get a hold of the Talking Dead show that aired immediately after the Walking Dead episode, you’ll hear it yourself. Lori is DEAD.

  38. Tania says:

    If people aren’t satisfied that Lori is dead, perhaps looking at the bloody drag mark(s) leading to the zombie that feasted on Lori’s corpse will. If you look closely, you can see Lori’s hair near its mouth. All that Rick has is the casing of the bullet that Carl shot into his mother’s head (not to mention the baby that survived). That boy’s life is forever changed. Can’t blame Rick for just going medieval on that zombie’s abdomen. I’m not going to lie, I chuckled looking at the distended belly of a very FULL zombie. ;)

  39. Greg says:

    How can you not mention two of Daryl’s best moments in the series: when he grabs the baby, and she stops crying and then he starts feeding her; and him putting a flower on Carol’s “grave”. Such awesome Daryl moments. Made me love him even more.

  40. Philip Oberst says:

    Total guess…..Carol will be zombified and after that she’ll bite Daryl in episode 8. Which (if you haven’t noticed) is called like volume 8 of the comics. The thing is almost everyone dies.

  41. Matt says:

    The zombie only ate the afterbirth. You can’t fit an entire human, bones, clothes, head and all inside another human’s excuse me, zombie’s belly.

  42. Derek ybanez says:

    Ok guys real quick, lori is the one on the phone but its just in ricks head, he is going crazy, but this does not mean she is dead. Carol is the the one who knows how to do the csection so she also would know how to dress the wound and maybe keep her alive. Hope this helps!!

  43. Derek ybanez says:

    And yes dude above me is right. The zombie ate the after birth.

  44. Derek ybanez says:

    Plus, carol is back inside the prison, she had her scarf on when she left t-Dogg and the they found her scarf on the ground, inside by the same door she left out of. So she went back into the prison and found lori.

  45. Boersting says:

    There is no way Lori could survive the C-section. Maggie had no training, and the amount of bloodloss would kill her even i Carol found her.

  46. David says:

    You guys crack me up, debating with each other why Lori must to be dead, or must be alive. The Walking Dead is a business, and bottom line, it’s all about dollars. If the writers think a particular story line works best to continue bringing in the big bucks, they’ll probably take us down that path. Without any bodies, they certainly left the story open-ended. Who knows, the writers could still have the group find Carol nursing Lori back from near death, if only for the purpose of letting the comic book fans watch her die yet a second time.

  47. Eliza says:

    I had been an avid fan of this show until last year. Now, as with “Lost” the bad writing and the stupid mistakes are getting to me. They were funny at first since I hadn’t really noticed things like the unlimited shotgun and other things that people have made memes about. However, as this show keeps going, I’m starting to get VERY annoyed. The problem is that the characters are written to say and do things very illogically. This week was almost the last straw for me. When Andrea COMPLETELY loses her mind and questions NOTHING about where she is and why things are so hunky dory, especially when a complete and total asshole she knew from before who was homicidal starts talking to her like some long lost buddy….WTF? She has allegedly “changed” since having to come to terms with her situation. She and Michonne have been through so much and she just blows off Michonne?

    That’s what I mean. It’s bad writing. I’m also getting really sick of the stupid mistakes. Like that damn motorcycle. If it is SO LOUD, it’s going to attract walkers! Why, WHY would anyone be riding one? It sounds like he’s farting every time he rides it. IT’S NOT COOL. If you are forced to go through a herd, you will die. They will just pull you off or the bike will have to wreck. So you always have to have situations where the motorcycle would never encounter a large group. There should be herds of walkers following that damn thing every time Daryl gets on it! Wish I could PhotoShop a picture of that!!

    It was like that absolutely ridiculous motor home. There would have been TONS of WORKING ones around. BUT NO….keep the rickety one that breaks down every couple of miles. So, if you want a SILENT car, you find the ones with BATTERIES for god’s sake. The ones that CAN ALSO RUN on GAS! From the lovely shaved beards on the inmates, to the cleanly mowed lawn at the prison, to the new token black guy (shame on them), I am getting to the point where it’s not worth it to watch anymore. I got that way with Lost and Prison Break. They just got too stupid to watch. The writers think/thought they were so clever and that they didn’t have to actually think about these things. They keep trying to create ICONIC images which are just falling flat like a really bad catch phrase-case in point; Carl’s lame ass hat. They want some iconic image so that when they do some kind of weird future situation, Carl still has “the HAT”. OH and the farting Harley motorcycle thing…NOT an iconic thing.

    Finally, IF a show HAS to explain to the audience that the zombie Rick was stabbing had eaten Lori clothes and all…then that is just the WORST type of writing. I didn’t get that the zombie had eaten her. I had no idea why they never showed Rick seeing Lori. Seriously missed opportunity for some more touching scenes. So oh, NOW I get it…after I had to have it explained to me. Bad, bad writing.

    • Fred says:

      If you’re so annoyed with the show, stop watching it. And as far as bad writing goes, that’s exactly what I thought, when I read your comments.

  48. TICZ says:

    Can someone tell me if The one who gave the drinks to milton at the start of the episode is Lori.

  49. meagan says:

    i think carol found lori alive and moved her to safety, because walkers dont drag there food… idk

    • danny says:

      rick found the bullet that carl used to shoot lori and because there was no blood around the bullet its clear carl didnt shoot her and just shot the floor, i reckon laurie is a walker and shes going to chomp on someone in a later episode

  50. Matt says:

    Logic is telling me that the power grid wouldn’t have failed because of wind powered generators or turbine powered ones, so no electricity is bs, also the walkers are rotting, flesh and muscle will decompose and we all know bones can’t hold themselves together with out that… any way it is still good entertainment….