The Second Presidential Debate: Fanfare for the Common Man

For Round 2, everyone was invited into the fray!

Everyday folk peppered former Massachusetts Governor Mitt Romney and President Barack Obama with questions at the second presidential debate of the election season, held in a town hall-style format at Hofstra University. CNN chief political correspondent Candy Crowley moderated the 90-minute event, which dealt with issues related to both foreign and domestic policy. As part of the debate’s format, audience members addressed questions directly to the candidates.

At TVLine, we watched to see who delivered the night’s best lines. Below is our fair, balanced, non-partisan take on the event’s top moments, strictly from an entertainment point of view. My fellow Americans, I want you… to read through our list, take our poll and then hit the comments to make your voice heard! In closing, God bless you, and God bless TVLine Nation.

ROMNEY

• In discussing his process for building a gender-balanced gubernatorial cabinet in Massachusetts, said, “I went to a number of women’s groups and said, ‘Can you help us find folks?’ and they brought us whole binders full of women.” Within moments, Grey’s Anatomy creator Shonda Rhimes tweets that she’s “scared for the women stuck in binders.” Soon after, a Binders Full of Women Tumblr is born.

• Got a few laughs by saying, “The thing I find the most troubling about Obamacare… well, it’s a long list.”

• Gave a succinct illustration of the unemployment situation by highlighting the disparity between the unemployment rate Obama envisioned and the reality: “The difference between where it is and 5.4 percent is 9 million Americans without work.”

• After Obama reviewed his accomplishments of the past four years as reasons to vote him into a second term, retorted with a strong-yet-simple, “I think you know better.”

OBAMA

• Was quick to assure a woman who stumbled over her tax-related question, “You’re doing great.”

• Played on the former governor’s history as a “very successful investor” to say that he’d never accept a spending proposal that lacked a payback plan. “You wouldn’t take such a sketchy deal and neither should you, the American people, because the math doesn’t add up.”

• Replied to Romney’s question about whether he reviews his pension with, “I don’t look at my pension. It’s not as big as yours, so it doesn’t take as long.”

• When Crowley refuted a point Romney made about the Obama administration’s classification of the Libyan embassy bombing,  called out, “Can you say that a little louder, Candy?”

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110 Comments
  1. Rachel says:

    Much better tonight from Obama.

  2. Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

    That was much better. Still won’t vote for Obama and his horrible business knowledge but at least he showed up and tried tonight.

    • iMember says:

      I hope you’re not going to vote for Romey and his lies though. That would just be poor decision making on your part, sir.

      • @@ says:

        So does Obama. They all lie all they want is our vote

      • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

        Seems to me that an even poorer decision is to vote for a man that has us over 8% unemployment and added 5 trillion dollars to our debt in 3.5 years. But please, tell us how it’s not Obama;s fault because you are voting to keep your food stamps and welfare.

        • luke says:

          There are people out there who are not on food stamps and welfare who will vote for Obama. But yeah keep repeating garbage you hear on Fox News. When Bush took office surplus was over 2 billion and gas cost $1.21. What happened there? What was the debt when Bush left office?

          • pylvrym says:

            In hollywack

          • LisaJ says:

            Didn’t the out-sourcing of jobs really begin to escalate during the Clinton/Gore administration? We didn’t care because the economy was so great, but now it has caught up with us. The hard fact is that there are those that have lived on welfare for generations and it is a way of life. They have known no other way and a hand-out from Uncle Sam seems the most natural thing to them. Then there are those that do have self-pride (not just lip-service) and would like to better themselves and no longer depend on government welfare for their livelihood. So the welfare problem is neither black or white, but a lot of grey which means there is no easy fix for whomever is elected. These problems need both parties to come to the table with the President intent on resolutions for the American people and not victories for their individual parties. However, our government may now be so broken and corrupt that is no longer possible. Few people trust our elected leaders but, instead, attempt to choose the lesser of two evils. How sad.

        • shuayb says:

          You are forgetting that the debt your country is in was not incurred by Obama alone. Mr. Bush incurred that debt when he went to ‘war’ Remember that when you make such bold statements. Plus when is it SO bad to help the poor? Maybe more of your Rich friends like Romney, McCain, Palin and other corporate entities should give the country more money for the poor instead of putting it in the cayman Islands!

          • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

            These “poor people” wouldn’t need my help if they could actually find a job. You act as if the fact 43 million Americans being on food stamps is the charitable thing to do while you ignore the fact that many of them not only can, but want want to work. Too bad they can’t find a job.

          • ryan says:

            Agreed completely. And, I think what you need to realize is that you live in a global economy. What happens in Europe actually affects the US. The great recession during the end of Bush time caused economies around the world to collapse. So saying everything is Obama’s fault is seriously misplaced.

        • Elyse says:

          what a rude and ignorant comment to make. i have never been on government assistance thank you very much. Obama will be getting my vote over Mittens Robme.

          • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

            Oh how cute, you have little hateful nicknames for one of the candidates. You sound like the moronic liberal talking heads on MSNBC.

    • luke says:

      “his horrible business knowledge” what the hell does that even mean? I’m guessing you voted for Bush. Explain his “knowledge” of anything! How did he win twice?

      • MGL says:

        Obama has had 4 years in office and all of the manufacturing jobs have gone over seas. The national debt is unbelievable. That equals horrible business knowledge!

        • luke says:

          So the jobs started going overseas when Obama took office? What are you talking about dude?

        • There has actually been more jobs gained than lost since the President took office. And that is no small feat, considering the tremendous amount of jobs that were lost or shipped overseas. I don’t know how you can side with the corporatist party even if it means cutting and outsourcing American jobs.

          • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

            So how do you explain over 8% unemployment if Obama is creating jobs? Obama is weak when it comes to China and their cheap labor, as well as their currency manipulation. Probably because he has no understanding of what currency manipulation even is.

          • It’s actually just under 8%, not over. Like I said, a lot of jobs were lost, but even more were created. It’s math. If the President created no jobs, then unemployment would be much, much worse. I hope that once this election is over, the house and senate will actually start signing jobs bills instead of defeating any and everything to reduce Obama’s achievements in the eyes of voters that aren’t paying attention.

        • Annie says:

          Mitt Romney’s previous businesses resulted in a lot of US jobs being outsourced to other countries. Some of his plans will result in more outsourcing.

          I’m not trying to take anything away from what President Obama did, but we started losing jobs under George Bush, who said that outsourcing would help the economy, and that we needed the money to pay for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Unfortunately, those jobs are probably gone for good, and the only recourse is to come up with new jobs, new technology, and a new way of doing things.

        • ryan says:

          Big business outsource jobs because it’s cheap. To put things into perspective, engineers cost $41 an hour in the US, $6 in China and $4 in India. So if you are businessman, with weak demand (because of a weak middle class), how will you cut cost in your business? Do you keep $41 an hour for a US engineer, or will you outsource it to China or India?

          • Britta Unfiltered says:

            I think about that issue all the time with outsourcing. How do you fight companies sending their business overseas when employees overseas are willing to work for slave wages and in deplorable working conditions? It’s not right, and not ethical that businesses are doing that. Either the economies in other countries have to drastically improve to the point where they receive the same pay as us, or our economy has to drastically fall to where it was decades ago so that we can match their prices. And there’s always going to be some 3rd world country out there who’s citizens are willing to work for pennies. Maybe that will be us someday. Things look dark for America no matter who is in office, it really frightens me what’s going to happen to our job market.

        • Meg says:

          When Romney was governor of Massachusetts the state was 47th in job growth. He’s not going to create jobs in this country (he said multiple times last night that government doesn’t create jobs). But don’t worry. Your interest and capital gains earnings won’t be taxed.

        • Waitingsux says:

          You can blame companies like Bain Captial for the continuation of outsourcing. Obama cannot strong arm companies and CEOs like Mitt Romney into reshoring.

          Mitts tax plan just doesn’t add up. Facts matter. blame Obama all you want but he’s still the better choice over Mitt Robme.

    • Pearl says:

      Just a thought… Maybe, instead of wanting one of the candidates to know all about economics, you could demand that the one that get elected just hire the BEST economic man of the country to deal with. Just a thought.

    • Jana says:

      No successful businessman has ever become a successful president. That’s because the government is not a business. Whereas a business’ primary purpose is to make money for its shareholders, the primary purpose of the government is to protect its citizens.

  3. Esaul says:

    Obama did much better tonight.Romney came off rude and arrogant compared to the last debate.

  4. Alex says:

    Binders full of women. That is all.

  5. Stephanie says:

    I thought Obama looked much more relaxed tonight. Certainly a better performance than debate #1, he has his mojo back for sure

  6. Fan says:

    Notice how Obama didn’t have a comeback on the fast & furious issue. Both did great tonight thought. I know who I’m voting for but it was a tough decision because the true reformer Ron Paul is running.

  7. Fan says:

    I typed to fast :/ *Ron Paul isn’t running

  8. jason says:

    Obama was the clear victor tonight. He just got one more vote from me.

    • MGL says:

      Then you are an idiot!

      • luke says:

        Is the the best response you can come up with? Tell us why he isn’t a victor instead of insulting someone who just states a fact.

        • LisaJ says:

          He is not a “victor” for the American people or American way of life as we have known it – as generations before us have fought to create and protect. Obama has been careful not to show his true alliances in the full light of day, but if re-elected he doesn’t have to worry about another term and the gloves will come off. He has undermined our Christian based beliefs, traditions, and observances at every chance all the while encouraging and praising belief systems that had nothing to do with the founding of this nation or the intent of our constitution. I do not believe this is a man of God. Therefore, he has no “business” leading this nation must remain “one nation, under God” if we are ever to be blessed again. Make no mistake. It DOES matter.

          • Angela says:

            How in the world has he “undermined our Christian-based beliefs”? Last I checked Christians were still being as Christian as ever, and you know we don’t run our country based off one religion, right?
            Just because some of our founding fathers were Christian doesn’t mean this country is automatically Christian by default.

          • Sara says:

            “One nation under God” has nothing to do with the men who wrote the Constitution. That was started in the 1950’s. This is not a Christian nation and it never was. There is a distinct seperation between church and state. You speak of the intent of the Constitution, but really seem to think the Constitution is a part of the Bible. Newsflash: it isn’t.

          • LisaJ says:

            A few highlights, but there are so many others. Just look for them.
            May 2009 – Obama declines to host services for the National Prayer Day (a day established by federal law) at the White House.
            September 16, 2009 – The Obama administration appoints as EEOC Commissioner Chai Feldblum, who asserts that society should “not tolerate” any “private beliefs,” including religious beliefs, if they may negatively affect homosexual “equality.”
            When speaking at Georgetown University, Obama orders that a monogram symbolizing Jesus’ name be covered when he is making his speech.
            April 2010 – The Obama administration requires rewriting of government documents and a change in administration vocabulary to remove terms that are deemed offensive to Muslims, including jihad, jihadists, terrorists, radical Islamic, etc.
            November 2010 – Obama misquotes the National Motto, saying it is “E pluribus unum” rather than “In God We Trust” as established by federal law. A law that he is not exempt from.
            August 2010 – Once again, in a public speach, Obama speaks with great praise of Islam and condescendingly of Christianity.
            October 19, 2010 – Obama begins deliberately omitting the phrase about “the Creator” when quoting the Declaration of Independence – an omission he has made on no less than seven occasions.
            June 2011 – The Department of Veterans Affairs forbids references to God and Jesus during burial ceremonies at Houston National Cemetery
            February 2012 – The Obama administration makes apologies for Korans being burned by the US Military, but when Bibles were burned by the military, numerous reasons were offered why it was the right thing to do.

            This country was founded on Christian principals by Christian men and women and we have been blessed as no country before us. God, our creator, is referenced many times in the documents recording the time our constitution, bill of rights, and finally declaration of independence was created. Many have tried and succeeded in twisting the intent of these documents to satisfy a society of decaying morality. Time to wake up and smell the coffee. There is hard work to be done and we have yet to prove this generation is up to the task of setting this nation back on course.

          • KC says:

            Newsflash: This country has a SECULAR government, the Bible doesn’t and shouldn’t dictate any laws here. Also, back in the day when Christianity did play a more powerful role in the running of the country, there was slavery and/or overt racism as well no rights for women. Tell me again how much better “The American way of life” was back then.

          • LisaJ, I’m sure you wasted a lot of time putting together a list no one here cares about, and I don’t care to look up line by line which, if any of these claims, are true. But your complaint seems to be that the President is not Christian enough for you. What you fail to realize is that Barack Obama is respectful to all Americans and their personal beliefs and does not behave as if Christianity is the only acceptable thing to believe in, unlike Romney. Not accepting all Americans, especially those who aren’t Christians, is extremely prejudicial and disgusting. The pilgrims came to America to escape religious persecution, not embrace it. Morality is highly subjective and absolutely not exclusive to Christianity. I resent anyone who claims otherwise.

          • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

            Personally, I could give a flying you know what if Muslims feel accepted in this country. They can always head back to their stone age motherlands where women are shot in the head for trying to get an education if they don’t like it here. Some of the most violent people on this planet and idiot liberals are trying to bring them into this country by the thousands.

          • Elyse says:

            LisaJ where do you get your news from? Fox News?

          • Mikael says:

            Seems like some people need to go back to high school and take American History over again. There is a SEPARATION of Church and State! The USA should NOT have a President who will make policy based on religion. You can practice whatever religion you want, but you shouldn’t make laws for the nation based on what your religious beliefs are. And isn’t Christianity supposed to be about kindness to others? I’ve found them to be the most hypocritical and hateful people.

          • Chuck Finley, AJ, whatever you call yourself, please frontload all of your comments with the same prejudicial, bigoted nonsense like this so everyone who might listen to what you have to say will know how seriously frightened you are of Muslims, gays, the poor and whoever else. And please continue to ignore comments that have facts and sources that dispute your completely partisan-sourced “information”. Nothing’s worse than a know-it-all who doesn’t know anything.

          • Angela says:

            @LisaJ: Going through these one by one here-
            1. Okay, so he doesn’t host the services. They still take place, don’t they? It’s not like he said, “No, we won’t let this day’s celebrations occur at all.”
            2. That’s one guy’s opinion, and not indicative of the beliefs of all people. It IS possible to work with people with whom you don’t share a viewpoint, you know.
            3. I have no memory of hearing about the Georgetown thing. Heck, I’m answering all the things in your list presuming they even actually happened to begin with, and weren’t falsified scary stories from some fringe internet site or e-mail forward or something. If you could provide legitimate links to prove this stuff actually happened, that’d help.
            4. Good. He should. Because stereotyping an entire religion and its followers based on the psychotic actions of some is stupid. Christianity has its share of nutjobs, too, but I’m sure you’d find it pretty offensive if we stereotyped all Christians by the actions of some, right?
            5. Ooh, he misquotes a motto. And? This is not indicative of an anti-Christian conspiracy, sorry.
            6. I have absolutely no memory of him ever speaking condescendingly of Christianity in any speech I’ve heard him give. None. So I have to assume that you misread something there and took the slightest critique or commentary as an attack.
            7. Oh, no, he didn’t mention “the Creator”! And…the world’s still spinning, isn’t it? Besides that, “the Creator” is vague and can refer to anything. It doesn’t specifically have to mean the Christian God.
            8 and 9. Again, haven’t heard of either scenario happening, would need a source. And if people are burning Korans or Bibles, well, I don’t agree with either practice, so…*Shrugs*.

            People have been acting immoral since time immemorial. The presence or lack of God has nothing whatsoever to do with whether or not people have a moral center. I’ve known atheists who are good upstanding citizens and I’ve known Christians who have done some horribly immoral things. Our founders left Europe because theysaw the effects of the blending of church and state and didn’t like what resulted.
            And I would also say, for your sake, I would hope you WOULDN’T want religion and the state to mix, because, sure, it’s all well and good when your religion is influencing state decisions, but you have to remember then that that goes both ways and the state can start getting involved in your religion’s affairs (look at the uproar over the Catholic/contraception thing from earlier this year, after all). And I’m guessing you wouldn’t be too happy about THAT part of it all, right?

  9. lara says:

    Yay for the POTUS waking up and ACTUALLY debating this time! It worked!

  10. @@ says:

    Democrats will say Obama won, republicans will say Romney won. This election will be decided by undecided voters. I like the fact that Romney called him out on his failures. I still don’t like either one of them. Maybe Gary Johnson???

  11. Regan says:

    As a Canadian, if Romney wins, we will all cry. All of us. . I fear for a world where Romney is president of the US. Fear for it.

  12. Angela says:

    Note to Romney: Having a dad who was born in Mexico does not mean you “get” the immigration issue, it’s nice to say “I know how to run things/do things/what makes a good economy” but you kind of need to back that up with examples, and you can’t have too many issues with Obamacare given you implemented a very similar program in your own state and it succeeded.
    Also, his thing about women in the workforce was hilarious and patronizing all at the same time. Good god.
    Obama did so much better at this debate tonight, no question. His first term hasn’t been perfect, no, but I feel much better with him as our leader over the arrogant, out of touch Romney.

  13. Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

    All you need to do is watch Obama 2016. That should be reason enough to vote this guy out of office before he completely destroys this country.

    • kavyn says:

      “All you need to do is watch a single film created by a Republican as to why you shouldn’t vote for Obama”

      That’s like saying Zeitgeist is proof enough as to why 9/11 is fake.

    • Elyse says:

      thank you for showing how close minded you are in all of your comments. liberals aren’t trying to bring Muslims into this country but if you aren’t a native American then your ancestors were immigrants too. you should probably try and learn some tolerance.

      • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

        I’m more worried about the Marxist ideals he learned from his father than the Muslim problem at this point. And she we use us and your displays of complete intolerance of conservatives in the comments here as a basis for learning this “tolerance” that you speak of?

        • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

          * should we use your

        • Sam says:

          ……how did he learn ideals from a father that didn’t really raise him? wow.

          • Angela says:

            I’m still waiting to figure out where the Marxist stuff comes in, myself. Someone who’s allowed Wall Street to pretty much continue doing what it’s been doing, for instance, can’t possibly be that great an example of a Marxist.

  14. Tamela says:

    My vote is for Mitt Romney! I fear for what will happen to us if Obama gets re-elected…

  15. Mike says:

    As an undecided voter, I don’t like either of them and I’m still undecided, that said Obama won this debate, but with that said he didn’t win it by a large enough margin, that he can relax, I still need him to tell me what he plans to do differently for the next four years that will make me give him my vote.

  16. Kristin says:

    I’m a republ

  17. Kristin says:

    It’s seriously insane that anyone could say either cnandiatr won this debate. Not only did either candidate answer any question directly that was asked but the last most important question Of the night that could have differentiated them and set the tone for a true leader was even answered by either candidate which is just really Disapointing…u can say ur candidate “won” but the reality is both list the chance to really show the offer next they can make and that in itself is just upsetting .

    • Mike says:

      Wow, what happened to that spelling of candidate, did you fall on the keyboard or something, but I agree completely, I understand that the media will give this debate to Obama, but in reality if any debate this year has been a tie, it is this one.

  18. pylvrym says:

    He hasn’t a clue

  19. Linda says:

    I am a woman. I know who I’m voting for.

  20. lily says:

    any woman who votes for a republican needs to have their head examined. esp after hearing mitt romney’s pathetic answer on women’s issues tonight. i get free birth control now. that saves me $480 a year. i know who’s looking out for my interests and it’s not that sexist, ignorant romney, who didn’t even ANSWER the question about equal pay.

    • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

      Well it’s not free. Someone is paying for it you freeloader. Trading your vote for “free stuff”. The absolute height of ignorance.

    • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

      PS – It’s a travesty of epic proportions that seniors in this country can’t afford medications they need to stay alive, but some trash that sleeps around, and can’t figure out how to use a condom, gets free birth control thanks to the government. Your idiotic post reminds me of the “Obamaphone” lady.

      • Elyse says:

        can someone please delete all of Chuck Finley’s comments? i have never heard anyone sound more ignorant in my life. how can you go through life being such an asshole? must be nice that guys can sleep around all they want and never be labled trash or a slut. IF YOU DON’T HAVE A VAGINA DON’T SPEAK ABOUT WOMENS RIGHTS.

        • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

          Don’t ask for my tax money for abortions and contraceptives then. As long as you are going to do so, I reserve the right to have an opinion on the matter being one of the 53% that actually pays a significant amount of my income in taxes.

        • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

          Oh and that’s typical liberal “tolerance” for you. Asking for opposing opinions to be deleted. Sorry that the truth hurts, but people that want handouts from the Government in exchange for their vote are freeloaders. Plain and simple.

          • Elyse says:

            typical conservative calling someone who has come into tough times a “freeloader” or “trash”. sorry the world isn’t all rainbows and butterflies.

          • Britta Unfiltered says:

            AJ, it makes me sad to see you be so abusive towards other posters and to call them horrible names. You didn’t know that girl, you have no right to call her trash or say she sleeps around. For all you know, she could be in a committed relationship, maybe even married and just not financially ready to start a family. Would you really want people who don’t have the financial resources to raise kids to have an accidental pregnancy? Maybe getting free birth control is the difference between some of those women having accidental pregnancies and not having accidental pregnancies, as perhaps they wouldn’t be able to afford birth control on their own. And maybe if they did have an accidental pregnancy from not being able to afford birth control, they would end up being on government programs to help pay for their children. So maybe free birth control is just the cheaper option for the government to take as it could cut down on people needing welfare help in the future. And don’t say it could all be fixed by people using condoms, as condoms are horribly ineffectual and have a way of breaking or being used improperly. Birth control pills are 98% effective.
            .
            Please take a breath and calm down. Realize it’s okay that people have a different opinion from you and stop attacking them for it. And just so you know, I am another one of the women out there that gets free birth control. So go ahead, call me a freeloader even though I never asked anyone for my birth control to be free. Call me trash, tell me I sleep around even though I’ve been celibate for 3 years. I don’t even take birth control to prevent pregnancies, I take it because my body has an incredible hormonal imbalance. It’s a medical issue for me. So please don’t make assumptions about me or anyone else on this issue when you don’t have any idea what their situation in life is like.

      • Emgee says:

        Yeah? Well wait until Mittens privatizes medicare and those medications for seniors become even more expensive and more unaffordable. Wait until Mittens deregulates big business such as insurance even more making it even easier for them to deny people coverage.
        And AJ, your post doesn’t even make any sense. If they “can’t figure out how to use a condom” how would “free birth control” help them anyway?
        Good Lord, Republicans get stupider with every comment they make.

        • Elyse says:

          its because they watch Fox News.

        • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

          Actually you got the point pretty well. I don’t expect a woman who can’t use a condom to be any better at taking a pill every day. So that’s pretty much a waste of my tax money if they “get it for free”. I guess I should consider it a blessing in disguise. If I give you free BC you are not likely to reproduce and add another person looking for “free” stuff from the Government. I really enjoy you guys calling Republicans stupid when you can’t even figure out that someone is paying for all these “free” things you feel entitled to.

          • Elyse says:

            as a taxpayer i pay for the help people receive.

          • Sam says:

            chuck you need to go back to sex ed please have a seat. do you understand that BC pills are used by women for health issues as well? i bet you didn’t. that’s one of the bigger issues that no one talks about.

      • Tallulah says:

        You sound exactly like Romney. Or how he would speak if he wasn’t in the election. I hope one day you can walk in someone else’s shoes and understand how life actually works.

      • Angela says:

        Great, so I presume you’re going to demand Viagra not be covered under health insurance then, too, right?
        Also, there’s the fact that birth control helps women with hormonal issues and their cycles and stuff, too, that it’s not just there for us to be all slutty and sleep around, but go ahead and ignore that fact like so many politicians seem to be doing.

    • Elyse says:

      i agree with you 100% Lily!

      • Chuck Finley (AJ) says:

        Hey you are free to sleep around all you want. Just don’t ask for my tax money to buy you birth control so you can do so. Since when do women have a right to free medication just because they possess a vagina? If you want men to take you seriously stop saying ignorant things like you have a constitutional right to Government funded contraception. Go buy your own pills if the sole reason you want them is to be able to sleep around. It’s a voluntary act so you can voluntarily buy the medication to prevent pregnancy. That responsibility is not on the rest of us.

        • concerned says:

          Then I hope for equality’s sake that you never need a pill to help get your d**k up — because that’s covered by your insurance plan — what’s good for the goose as they say

        • Elyse says:

          i have a full time job and my insurance covers my birth control thank you very much. i take it so i won’t get pregnant at 23 when i can barely afford my mortgage and car payment every month. i also have a boyfriend who i have been with for 2 years not that its your business. however since i do live paycheck to paycheck i understand what its like to struggle so i can see why people need assistance for things like that. so next time you want to force your opinions on someone else try not bashing them and calling them names when you don’t even know them. then maybe people might take your opinion into consideration.

  21. Ecosselass says:

    as a non US citizen who is extremely interested in US politics my opinion probably means nothing to US citizens. However, US politics do affect the rest of the world and I dread to think what would happen if Gov Romney is elected. Obama cannot take the entire blame for the economy as it fell just as he was getting into office. His list of accomplishments is impressive and his strong stance for gay marriage and equality are a stark contrast to Romney’s promise to defund planned parenthood and the general concensus that he will set back LGBT rights. Plus his blatant changing his tactics and lies during debates are infuriating and surely do not set the example of who the US should have as their commander in chief!! As i said, just an outside observer but hoping for an Obama win as the alternative doesn’t bear thinking about!

    • Renee says:

      As a person who has been struggling to find a full time job not temp or part time work since my company went out of business, I have to say I’m afraid of 4 more years of Obama. He’s had 4 years. I’m ready for someone else to try to fix the economy. Just to be clear…I don’t like either one of them. And no politician has to do what they promise and usually they don’t deliver on the campaign promises. They just have to convince enough people they will. Politicians are con men…if they aren’t good liars and actors they will never get elected.

      • ryan says:

        I think obama has his shortcomings. But, I think you have to give him a better chance. What happened in the 4 years? The whole world saw a great recession. Europe almost collapsed. You have the Japan tsunami. You have a very tough congress to deal with whose primary goal was to put Obama out and not move this country forward. US businesses are weak not because of American policies. I have not seen an analysis from a quarterly/annual earnings that mentioned it’s because of the government policies that’s why they are missing their targets. All points to the reality of a globalized economy. Demand in Europe being soft affects US companies. The Japan tsunami affected supplies to companies here in the US. I think the President did what any president can do to help manage the US economic crisis.

        • Renee says:

          I understand what you’re saying, but I’m the person who lost their house because they could no longer make the payments. I can’t find a full time job so I’ll have to buy the extra insurance…making part time money. I have to pay the rent, utilities, food etc. If it wasn’t for my family helping me out, I would be desperate. I don’t have the luxury of time to see if he can do a better job. And just so it’s clear…I have the college education etc. that is supposed to help you get a better job. I haven’t worked for minimum wage since my very first job when I was 17. But that is all that is available here in GA. Low paying part time or temp jobs. I just don’t have to luxury of time.

          • Elyse says:

            Renee i’m very sorry to hear that you are having trouble finding a job. i hope something good happens for you soon!

          • Renee says:

            Thanks Elyse I really appreciate that. Reality truly sucks at times, which is why I enjoy TV so much.

          • unicornwasp says:

            Renee, I just have to ask, what proof has Mitt Romney shown that he can create jobs more effectively that President Obama? Mitt Romney likes to talk about his time as a businessman, but most of that time was spent buying companies, bankrupting them, firing the employees, and/or shipping jobs overseas. Then he walked away with a tidy profit. Google Freeport Illinois to learn about factory workers who right now are fighting for their jobs that Romney’s company Bain Capital are sending to China. Certainly, Romney is no longer CEO, but he still holds stock and is still benefiting monetarily from these Americans losing their jobs, just as he did when he was in charge. Mitt Romney’s economic policies are the same as George Bush’s or worse. Mitt Romney wants to give wealthy Americans an even higher tax break than Bush did. Bush’s economy is what got the US into the mess it’s been in for the past four years. So Mitt Romney can talk about how he’s a businessman and a job creator all he wants, but to me, it’s clear that he will take the country straight back to Bush’s failed policies, and that he knows more about destroying jobs than creating them.

  22. Suzie says:

    I don’t like either candidate for different reasons. IMO Obama is an incompetent egomaniac and Romney will set back women’s rights by decades. Also, I fear that O has a fondness for Muslim ideology and will not support Israel because of that. I really wish Hillary was our President.

    • Renee says:

      Want to hear something funny? I don’t like Hillary, but I wish she was president. She’s an extremely competent person. No likeable, but very competent.

    • Ecosselass says:

      how many times does it have to be said that Islam is to al qaeda as Christianity is to the KKK?? Muslims are not the enemy!! Isn’t the USA supposed to be the land of the free? Does that only count if you’re christian? And aren’t those trying to remove women’s rights to choose re their own body and healthcare claiming to be Christian?? I am not a Muslim but I am also not a Christian, controversial as it may be I do not believe in any God, I believe that faith can be a great thing and have seen religious groups of every faith do good but I also see what religious or so called religious groups have done/are doing to society. Many wars have been fought on religious grounds and many more are threatened. Stand up for your country but do not reject beliefs different to your own without cause.

      • Suzie says:

        I have no issue with your remarks. I also do not believe in any organized religion. However, not all laws in middle eastern countries are religious, but are hidden inside religious rhetoric. Islam and Christianity both subjugate women. Even peaceful muslims treat women as chattel. It’s a patriarchal discipline. As is the Roman Catholic Church. IMO organized religion is the worst thing to ever befall the human race.

        • Mikael says:

          I agree. Most of the hatred in this world comes from religious people. There is not alot of tolerance in organized religion.

    • Waitingsux says:

      I don’t get the correlation between Obama and Islam. That is a blatant lie propagated by Faux news in an attempt to portray a Christian man as a Terrorist.

      It’s actually quite offensive and by all accounts racist.

  23. lily says:

    i wonder if bin laden thinks obama is incompetent. oh wait…

  24. Britta Unfiltered says:

    I didn’t enjoy the debate. There was a lot of bickering and interrupting and ignoring the mod. Things were just way too emotional. I would like to watch a debate where the candidates can keep calm and not point fingers at the other guy, and just explain their positions and what they want to do with the country. Just don’t get overheated, ya know? I realize the stakes feel high with who will be president, but we need to ask ourselves, are they really as high as we think they are? Most of the problems we face in this country are because we have a deadlocked Congress who cannot agree on anything. I think we should be focusing our energies on our local elections and our Congressmen. Get the Tea Party out of office so they’ll stop creating their little filibusters on every single issue. Get people in office who are bipartisan and can get something done. No way what’s happening in our country right now is one man’s fault. There is just no way. Quit believing Obama has that kind of power that he can destroy America, people. We have checks and balances in this country for a reason. Please focus more on your local elections.

  25. Waitingsux says:

    Mitt,

    If you want to hire me, governor, there’s a price to pay. I’m a woman in a binder you gotta give me some flex time!