Damages Post Mortem: EPs Answer Burning Qs About Finale (Including That Stunning Last Shot)

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After five seasons of backstabbing and whodunits — not to mention a life-saving leap from FX to DirecTV — Damages adjourned for good Wednesday night with an episode that saw the epic feud between Patty and Ellen at last come to a head. [If you have yet to watch, this is your chance to hit the nearest exit.]

Now, TVLine is calling to the stand exec producers Glenn Kessler and Daniel Zelman to answer your burning questions about the swan song, reveal new details about the epilogue’s flash-forward and tell the story behind that final iconic image of leading lady Glenn Close.

TVLINE | So, did Patty put a hit out on Ellen or not? All the evidence pointed to the fact that she did — including Patty’s own confession to Patrick Scully — but then the scene on the dock with her and Ellen had me questioning it again.
ZELMAN | Yes, we can 100 percent confirm that she did.
KESSLER | That’s actually satisfying to hear. We’re not trying to confuse people. We feel like there’s a string of details and facts that line up to solidify the fact that it happened. But it’s satisfying that even after five seasons, Patty is still compelling enough of a liar that she still has credibility. People are still willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.

TVLINE | The season — and the series — seemed to be building to this big courtroom showdown between Patty and Ellen, but then the trial lasted all of two minutes. What was the thinking there?
ZELMAN | We recognize that it was a risk. But the show was [never] about, “Ladies and gentleman of the jury… ” It was never about what actually happens in a courtroom. It was always about the power maneuvers outside of the courtroom, and we wanted to stay true to that until the very end. In our mind, the case this season was never about the case. It was about a battle between these two women.

TVLINE | One of my favorite scenes in the finale was Patty confronting her father. Glenn Close was mesmerizing.
KESSLER | I directed the episode and it was remarkable. We actually did something in the editing of it that we may never have done before, which is it was all just one take. The camera is just on her for one minute and 40 seconds, which is somewhat unusual in television to let a scene play out like that. But [given her] performance, we didn’t want to touch it. In its own way it was perfection. To tamper with it would’ve lessened it. Obviously Glenn has been spectacular throughout, but to have a scene like that in the finale and just let her go to town… it’s just a testament to everything she brought to the show for five seasons. It’s one of our favorite scenes as well.

TVLINE | In the epilogue, why didn’t you specify how many years you were flashing forward?
KESSLER | For a long time we did have a specific number attached to it, but then [we determined that] that the number of years that have passed is not the point. When one talks of a fairytale or tells a joke, the details have the potential to get in the way of the meaning…. Also, there’s a number that’s inherent in it because obviously Ellen’s child has been born. You’re given a framework that it was probably around five years based on the age of the child.
ZELMAN | There were several factual, expositional details that we left out. We wanted the epilogue to feel much more emotional and psychological, and not feel like we were wrapping things up by giving the audience a lot of facts. There are two other areas where we did that. One has to do with Ellen and her relationship with Chris. In our mind, Ellen is together with Chris. And there is one line in there that references it, but it’s subtle. The other example is that we never referenced specifically whether Patty is on the Supreme Court or not. But again, there was a subtle thing that we did with the fantasy Patty had where Ellen comes to that window. Prior to that, Patty asks her driver to take her home. And then after the fantasy she says, “I’ve changed my mind; take me to the office.” The main thing that meant for us is that all Patty has left is her work. And whether she is on the Supreme Court or not, it doesn’t really matter.

TVLINE | What was going on in Patty’s subconscious that led to the fantasy? Why did she need Ellen to thank her?
KESSLER | By the time the series is over, Patty has lost everybody of meaning in her life. Her son. Tom Shayes. Her husband. As someone said to her, “Everyone in your life either leaves you or dies.” And that fully comes to fruition once Ellen is out of her life. The redemption in her life would be that if it was worthwhile. If that, some number of years from now Ellen actually recognized that what Patty brought to Ellen’s life and what she was trying to do for Ellen was not just ruin her but in fact build her up to be a potentially powerful attorney. So a “thank you” makes it all worthwhile. It means that Patty still has a human connection to someone.
ZELMAN | Also, when someone comes up to you and says thank you — and, in essence, the subtext there is, “I owe you so much” — there is a sense that you still have sway over their life.

TVLINE | The final close-up on Patty’s face — did you always plan to hold on that shot that long?
ZTLMAN |
We wanted to end it with a shot that let the audience really watch her. Just to sit and watch her in a private moment we thought would be a pretty interesting thing. We’ve seen her in her private life before when she’s doing things. But we haven’t really ever seen her in her private life where she’s simply alone, sitting. And she really is alone in the world.

TVLINE | What was going through her mind in those final moments?
ZELMAN |
We tried a lot of things when we were filming it. And, obviously, Glenn has the potential within one shot to have many different things wash over her face. We tried her thinking about loss. We tried her thinking about feeling justified and okay with the success that she’s had. Another version [was about her having] no one anymore. All she has left is her work. And then ultimately we came up with the version we used, which is uninflected as to what an audience is supposed to think. There’s a lot of room to read into things.



Comments (84)

  • ALTERNATE ENDING

    Someone can always create an alternate ending (through editing). Where Patty wakes up (after the epilogue) inside the room where the police are questioning her and they actually receive a call saying Ellen is Ok and was being rushed back from the hospital after someone noticed her collapse in the street, michaels alive but patrick goes on the run having no gun (what Peter said in another comment) and the trial still goes forward.

    Patrick gets caught immediately by a patrol car days later. Patty’s truth is revealed, Micheal wins the case. Ellen gets her final payback then decides to leave the world of law, knowing that she does not want to turn out like Patty.

    Patty is then seen in a prison cell. Ray fiske turns up saying, ‘the damages been done’.

    RAY FISKE ALTERNATE QUOTE

    If too cliche:
    Ray Fiske – you always knew this was going to happen (jail doors close)
    Patty – Oh really
    Ray Fiske – Your all alone now Patty

    (flashback of Michael pops-up) – ‘People either leave you or they die’.

    Then we see patty’s face for 30 seconds. Same expression as the epilogue.

    (Last words) Ray Fiske – ‘we all have to face our skeletons’.
    With camera on Ray.

    CUTS****

    Producers names are seen****

    Damages Theme tune plays

    IF TWIST IS ADDED

    Michael accidentally gets killed after the trial because Jill tried to kill Patty (as Jill gets paroled early without Patty knowing she tries to get her final revenge) for taking her daughter away from her. As Jill missed , the police officer escorts her to the police car with tears running down her eyes. Patty petriffied knows she is totally alone in the world, no son, husband and now michaels daughter going into adoption care.

    Then regarding the two characters who got mcclaren’s assistant killed they get sued by Ellen and by doing this will give her money to support herself over the years (if she uses Patty’s techniques but this being her last case. She would then be able to live a comforable life, leave country (with her mother) to rejoin the nanny who took care of Ellen when she was younger.

    Thats just an idea. I find the twist part somewhat funny. You could keep the ending with ray fiske (alternate).

    I find this more satisfying in a way and feel a strong sense of damages being implicted on people and relates to season 1.

    Comment by Thomson – December 13, 2012 03:34 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • This is ridiculous, I like it. Especially the Ray Fiske Alternate Quote.
      The Kessler brothers and Zelman need to see this. Ha.

      Comment by Jack – December 13, 2012 03:54 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Loved this series. Really blown away by GlennClose and I am not a fan of hers at all. What especially made me love this series too was the numebr of characters from The Wire that kept popping up. I also did not think that Lilly Tomlin and Martin Short could pull off dramatic roles but they did. Kudos to the writers directors actors and all who believed in this project.

    Comment by That Guy – December 14, 2012 06:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • ‘She would then be able to live a comfortable life, leave country (with her mother) to rejoin the nanny who took care of Ellen when she was younger’. – Thomson

    This made me cry with laughter :-)

    Comment by RandomGangdomStar – December 17, 2012 12:55 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I am wathcing season 4 now and I don’t understand why Patty says that Ellen owes her everything she has. What has she done for her? Season 1 – tried to kill her. Season 2 – nothing. Season 3 – Ellen helped her with the case.

      Comment by Maria – January 15, 2013 01:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I think i have the blues after watching the series finale. I loved the show, could not stop watching it on Netflix. Loved both Patty and Ellen, both awesome stars . I hope they have a season 6, as the producers/directors have lots of potential to carry on the show. Hope the new season(if any) have Catherine play a big part. Sad to see Michael and Tom being written off from the show.

    Comment by UR – March 30, 2013 05:59 PM PDT  Reply To This Post

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