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I feel bad for you, mco, you’ll never win this battle)) I noticed a long time ago that the majority of commenters on forums and the like never even read the whole post through, they just click Reply immediately, and usually start with “I disagree!”))) That’s why I rarely comment anywhere myself.

And you’re absolutely right about Fillion fans. I never comment on Castle articles because whenever you say something good about Nathan, you either need to immediately say something even more positive about Stana, validating some stanatics’ jealously twisted sense of “fairness”, or prepare to be mauled)) Not always, but very often.
I like Stana, I do. And I don’t deny the existence of “snotty” fans of NF, as you put it. But they are exactly that – snotty. They live in their “Nathan is a Saintly Golden Genius” world and are always surprised when somebody doesn’t like Nathan or likes another actor better. They discuss among themselves how stupid people are, climb back on their high horses and go away 90% of the time. They don’t obsess over having “enemies”. Not so with stanatics. This vocal radical minority you were talking about is doggedly vicious, obnoxious, ignorant, and has this us-them teenage mentality, possibly because often it’s 16 year old girls. I understand that press people often single out Nathan and it is frustrating for fans of Stana, but with not very bright fans it turns into incessant Nathan bashing and denigration, which is exclusive for Castle fandom. I swear I almost never see any Fillion hate unless I go here or on castlespoilers.blogspot, or some other Castle site. From weight to twitter, to work ethic, to “bimbos”, to projections and assumptions about his character, to ridiculous conspiracy theories, you can have it all. I recently read a discussion between some teens where it was stated as a fact that the gossip blurb about Stana being a diva on set was written by some browncoat or even Nathan’s publicist, who were jealous of Stana supposedly overshadowing Nathan. Yep. Not a typical gossip rag strategy, but evil envious Nathan and his peeps. Projecting much?
You can’t even have this tiny thing – admitting that initially many people tuned into Castle because of Nathan, which is not even positive or negative, just a fact. Nobody stated he had George Clooney level of fame, just enough to make a couple million people to watch the pilot. But no.
OK, I said enough I think. Once again – I am not war mongering and I am not talking about ALL Stana’s fans. But I think you know the type I’m talking about, admit it.
And I’m not going to comment or come here again, so don’t bother with hate replies.

Only two dish about the show. And its suddently all Nathan Fillion fans ? It wasn’t even dishing since they said it was still good, not the best show ever, but good.
None dished about his costars nor the writers. At least in this threads.

We explained why we have problems with a very few and a very minority of the fandom. I hope, reading my previous comments, you understand where it came from from my experience. Or 1 example.

I never said, unlike you, that Stana Katic’s fans were all bad, putting them in the same bag. Just that a minority of them were. It’s a reality and I think it needs to be said just to explain why this kind of threads end badly and maybe some people would read it and see that behavior in their friends and try to talk to them ? I can only hope.

As for example, I am trying since the beginning to explain a fact or a point of view.Mostly calmy, and giving a few argument and explanation of why I think what I think.

Answers were mostly judging, sarcasm, accusations, misinterpretation of that I was saying, overall slightly defensive/agressive. None were trying to really understand what I was saying (how many times I had to repeat myself, saying the exact same thing in other ways ?)

That isn’t telling me that fans are open to discussion or triyng to understand each other when they disagree on a point.

Sadly it’s true for every shows with a huge fanbase. Most of the fans are pretty great and awesome. But there always a very vocal minority that giving all the fandom a bad name.

And maybe, I am from that minority today, and if that so, then I apologize. I was just trying to explain something as I saw it because, unlike you, I was there in march 2009 when the shows started and I saw how it evolved, How at the beginning majority of people I chat with on this kind of threads were Nathan’s fans and how slowly the fandom became so much bigger than Nathan.

How from the start to approximatly mid-season 3 we were a big happy familly and very slowly I started getting angry comment when I was saying good things about Nathan or some critics about Stana. And that I was very very “loved” when I had critics about Nathan and rave review about Stana.

I love the show, I love Nathan, I love Stana and I am the one who started “In Marlowe We Trust” on a French forum with a friend of mine and I love this freaking fandom.
That doesn’t make me blind to some imperfections that Nathan, Stana, Marlowe, and the fandom have.

But it seems that pointing this imperfections is a bad thing.
And from my experience today, it seems that trying to give credits to Nathan for a little thing is a bad thing too. That thanking Nathan for something means I don’t like the others. Like I couldn’t appreciate two thing at the same time maybe ?

And that’s sad my friends, it’s very sad.

Thank you James, you just drove my point home, all by yourself.