Post Mortem: Walking Dead Boss Defends Last Night's Big [Spoiler], Teases Shocking Finale

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The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 12WARNING: If you have yet to watch The Walking Dead‘s next-to-last Season 2 episode tonight, run don’t walk to the nearest exit. We’re serious, folks. The following Q&A with showrunner Robert Kirkman contains massive spoilers. Trust us on this one. Everyone else, you may proceed…

This Just In: The Walking Dead is not fooling around anymore. One week after viewers watched in horror as Dale literally had his guts ripped out, AMC’s mega-hit went a step further in its penultimate Season 2 episode and whacked another, far more pivotal character: Shane!

Sure, the warning signs were there — on screen and off. For starters, Shane had become increasingly unhinged as Season 2 wore on, making Sunday’s deadly confrontation with frenemy Rick all the more inevitable. Also, as fans of the Walking Dead comic know full well, the TV character actually survived longer than his literary counterpart. Oh, and as you may’ve heard, Shane’s portrayer, Jon Bernthal, recently landed a starring role in former Dead exec producer Frank Darabont’s TNT pilot L.A. Noir.

Yet, the death of Shane — who, for all intents and purposes, was the show’s co-lead — nonetheless packed a punch, mostly because it sends a loud and clear message that absolutely no one (save for Rick) is safe. And if the episode itself didn’t adequately relay that, our post mortem with Robert Kirkman should. Read on as Dead‘s main creative force reveals why Shane had to die, how Bernthal reacted (read: he wasn’t pleased), whether Jenner’s secret message to Rick has already been revealed, and when the next major death will come (hint: very soon).

TVLINE | How long did you know that you were going to kill Shane off this early on in the series?
Before the first episode of Season 1 was shot. [Laughs] Frank always talked about how, if the first season had been 13 episodes, we would’ve went ahead and told the entire Shane story and killed him off at the end of the season, which was pretty much what we did in the comics. But because that was a six-episode season instead of a normal-sized season, we decided to hold it for Season 2.

TVLINE | Did you ever consider not following the comics and letting him survive – if not through the entire run of the series then maybe just another season or two? The Rick-Shane dynamic was such a major part of the show.
There was a lot of back-and-forth when we were mapping out the second season. I’ll admit even I — who killed him in the comic — was saying there were a lot of interesting things that could come out of keeping him in the show. We had a lot of fun [writing for the character] in the second season because there were a lot of things that changed from the comic. Having him exist on Hershel’s Farm brought out new stories and made us do some cool new things that were different from the comic. And I’m always for that kind of stuff because I like to keep things interesting. But at the end of the day, what we kept coming back to is that The Walking Dead is much more about Rick and his journey than it is about Shane and his journey. And keeping Shane around was, in a sense, stealing from Rick. It was time to let Rick emerge and see how Shane’s death affected him and how it informed his decisions. And I think that when people see the last episode of this season — and Season 3 — and where Rick goes because of this, they’ll see that this is all part of the larger plan. [His death] is definitely an important moment. And it really sucked to lose Jon Bernthal, but it’s going to make the show that much better and that much more deadly. Having lost Dale and Shane, now you really get the sense that any of these characters could go at any moment. And we’re definitely going to be continuing that in Season 3. This finally tells people, “This is what The Walking Dead is. This is what you can expect.”

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TVLINE | How far in advance did Jon know that this was going to be his final episode?
He always knew he was going to die, but there was a question of exactly which episode it was going to be. That moved around quite a bit. It wasn’t until we were actually breaking the last half of Season 2 that we nailed it down to a specific episode.

TVLINE | How did he react?
Honestly, he was bummed. The actors have become a family, and they really love working together. They’re kind of isolated in Georgia where they shoot; they spend a lot of time together when they’re not filming. But every actor knows that on this show… I think Sarah Wayne Callies has been quoted as saying that she knows it’s not a matter of if she’s going to die but when; that’s what the show is. But it’s still very sad when actors have their last day on set. Jon was definitely upset. But he understood. He knew why we were doing it and what was going on. He was accepting of it.

TVLINE | Was he satisfied creatively with Shane’s final arc?
Absolutely. All of the actors are really great collaborators and have good ideas, and when Jon read the death scene he definitely had some questions and some suggestions. And he worked a lot with [the episode's writers] Glen Mazzara and Evan Reilly to try and beef it up. He had some little notes and they came to an understanding and really convinced Jon that this is what the scene needs to be. There was a lot of back-and-forth, and in the end Jon really loved the scene.

TVLINE | What was your reaction when news leaked that Jon had been cast in L.A. Noir?
It was an unfortunate mishap [that resulted from AMC] moving the last half of the season until February instead of just running it straight through. If we had aired it all in succession and ended in December it wouldn’t have been a problem. But by holding back the season, [the news] did kind of spoil things. It was a bummer that it spoiled the show to a certain extent, but I was happy for Jon. I think it’s exciting for him to be working for Frank again and I’m really looking forward to seeing that show. And it’s cool to know that Jon is constantly working. The tough thing for me is that when I kill a character in a comic book I am making the artist, Charlie Adlard, draw a different arrangement of lines from now on. Killing a character doesn’t really affect anybody but the readers. But when you kill a character on a TV show you are, in a sense, firing an actor. And the thing that upsets me about that is it’s always about the story; it’s never about the actor’s performance. And I’m a blue-collar guy, so if you fire somebody you need to have a reason. So it’s really upsetting to me every time we have to kill a character. So to know that Jon has another job makes me happy. Because I feel guilty about the whole firing thing.

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TVLINE | Shane turning into a zombie in the end pretty much confirms that everyone’s already infected. Can you confirm that that’s what Jenner whispered in Rick’s ear?
[Hesitates] Well, I can’t confirm that. But what I can say is that Shane turning after being stabbed definitely does inform Rick revealing what Jenner whispered, in the next episode.

TVLINE | So we’ll finally find out what he whispered in next week’s finale?
Yes.

TVLINE | Does Rick debate sharing this newfound intel with the others, or does the approaching zombie stampede delay that?
Yeah, there’s sh-t ton of zombies on the way to the farm, so he’s not going to have a lot of time for that.

TVLINE | This does raise the question about the dead bodies in the season-opening traffic jam — why hadn’t they all been turned?
I think if you go back and watch that [sequence you'll see] we were very careful to have them be in cars that were in accidents, so the brain would’ve had trauma. Or they had some kind of wounds somewhere on their heads to show that their brains had been killed, like somebody came across and killed them. We knew that we were building to this throughout the entire season.

TVLINE | I know you can’t name names, but have you quietly made any decisions to spare someone’s life on the show who died in the comics?
Dale’s death in the comic book came way later than it did in the TV show. And Shane’s death in the comic book came way sooner than it did in the TV show. So that’s pretty much the model that we’re going to be following throughout the life of the series. Some characters will die before they reached the point that they reached in the comic book series, and some people will outlast their comic-book counterpart. And that’s going to be done to keep things interesting [and] because it’s not just me writing the television show. There are five or six other people that have good ideas that are contributing to the show, and it would be wrong to go, “That’s a good idea but that’s not how we did it in the comics.” There will definitely be differences. You can’t use the comic book to gauge when or how someone is going to die.

TVLINE | Will there be another major death next week?
I can say that the cast that enters the final episode this season does not leave the final episode intact. And there are a lot of surprises still yet to come.

TVLINE | Will the finale end on a cliffhanger, as in mid-scene? Or will it be more similar to the Season 1 finale, which ended in a more resolute place?
It’s not quite a true cliffhanger, but it’s much closer to a cliffhanger than what we had last season.

TVLINE | And lastly, will T-Dog be allowed to speak again?
[Laughs] T-Dog definitely has a lot of cool moments in the finale and a lot of lines. I apologize for that. It’s one of those things where certain characters have to recede into the background to give room to the other characters because we have such a large cast. But every character will get their moment to shine — T-Dog included.

What did you think of the episode and, specifically, Shane’s death? Deposit your snappy judgments in the comments, and then check out Ask Ausiello Tuesday for even more scoop on next Sunday’s Dead finale (including who most definitely won’t be in it).



Comments (511)

  • I knew Shane’s death was coming, but I didn’t think it would be in such a poorly written. Out-of-left-field scene. I really hope Daryl & Glenn don’t beat the zombie horde back to the farm next week, and when they get back they find everyone else we know has been killed. I have no interest left in Rick, Carl, Lori, carol, tdog or hershels wallflowers. Let em all get killed in a “shocker” that would actually BE shocking.

    Comment by Bv – March 11, 2012 09:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Wow… a thrilling episode that had my wife and I both gasping! Some people will complain about anything. These actors deserve so much credit for delivering performances that really make this show transcend “genre”.

      Comment by r.j. paré – March 11, 2012 10:48 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • My only worry is wtf happens to Daryl? Shane was a ticking time bomb ,but he’s shane/dale/Rick put together…
    So sure he will have his spotlight and interesting moments in the finale@lets HOPE SEASON 3!!!!

    Comment by Jade – March 11, 2012 09:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Bv, they obviously wont but I get ur point.. I’ve Watched since episode 1.. daryl glenn and rick are my favorite characters.. rick not so much because I simply hate drama. But non-the-less.. id rather mire people die for it to be thrilling, rather than every one be safe

    Comment by hal – March 11, 2012 09:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Then too bad for you that Rick and his family are the focal point of the story. While I agree about Lori, I have been waiting since episode one for Shane to finally bite it.
    Kind of glad they kept him longer than in the book to build up to it though. Still wish Carl would have done it like in the comic, but Rick needed to toughen up.

    Comment by Jenny – March 11, 2012 09:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • More*

    Comment by hal – March 11, 2012 09:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • [comic spoilers below] My wife (who hasn’t read the comics) was asking me why Randall was a zombie, and I said that I think (I couldn’t remember if they’d revealed this yet on the show) that everyone’s already infected with a reanimative virus and it just doesn’t present until you’re a dead body, however you died. I should have just shut up because it was obvious about 30 seconds later.
    I then explained that there was a great scene in the books where Rick discovers this, then has to go back a unearth “a friend who died in a shootout’s” body to destroy the brain out of decency. I didn’t want to spoil that/how Shane dies in the book because, even though the show diverges wildly, I figured this was a central enough plot point that it would come up on the show. I really liked that scene in the comic where Rick doubles back on his own to honor his friend, despite how their partnership ended. I wish they could have left that in the show. I also liked that Carl took a human life, as it added to his character’s arc.
    Don’t get me wrong though, I liked that scene tonight. It showed a dark, brilliantly strategic, brutal side of Rick and his ability to make a tough call and do a bit of necessary dirty work. His sadness afterward at having to do it was a great showcase of Andrew Lincoln’s acting skills. Can’t wait to watch the show explore how this will inalterably change Rick. I love the show, and think it’s just a little bit better than the book, particularly the dialog. Both are masterpieces, though. I’m only through the 1st 12 trades, so don’t spoil anything for me.

    Comment by Jackson – March 11, 2012 09:32 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I too thought Carl killing living Shane was important to his character. It also would have been incredibly ironic in the show, considering Shane taught him how to shoot… Killing a zombie is totally different from killing a person, especially a person who was a father figure to him for quite some time.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wondering how did Shane turned into the walker…was he bitten?

    Comment by Am – March 11, 2012 09:33 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Everybody is infected or carrying the virus if the person dies without affecting the brain then that person comes back as Zombie.Da;e won’t come back as zombie because he was shot to the head while he was alive and still human.Randall did came back as zombie because he dead was snapped neck brain did not suffered trauma and was in one piece.

      Comment by All_PR – March 11, 2012 10:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yes, this is the death; apparently, there was text that said something about “Shane’s final episode.”

    Comment by Serenity450 – March 11, 2012 09:34 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • T-Dog. That’s “the black guy’s” name. Not many lines but I like him.

    Comment by Jenny – March 11, 2012 09:36 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Please learn how to spell, specifically Carl, before you post something

    Comment by John Deere – March 11, 2012 09:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Going off of a comment listed from earlier; if all of the survivors are already infected, but only can become a zombie after they died, does that mean the baby on the way might be a zombie??? Just curious to see what people think about this.

    Comment by Cejae hinzey – March 11, 2012 09:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Uh, yes, after the baby dies. Confused as to why people keep bringing this up. How or why would the baby come out full-zombie from the start?

      Comment by Scott – March 11, 2012 09:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Because if Lori has been infected the baby carrys the same infection automatically. I would think, it would be born totally heathly and human.

        Comment by Lisa Barnes – March 12, 2012 12:03 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Only if it dies. That would be pretty cool though… Stillborn zombie fetus tearing its way out of Lori’s womb. ^_^ I don’t think the writers would do that though…

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 09:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I don’t understand the logic why people keep saying the baby could be a Zombie because everybody have the virus,unless the baby dies there is no logic to it.The baby is alive since conception right? so why would the baby turn into a zombie other than dying.

      Thee interesting thing is he could be the cure to the infection that in reality in can come to a point that humans can live with it just make sure that whoever dies get shot in the head period.

      Comment by All_PR – March 11, 2012 10:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I just hope they won’t kill Maggie on the season finale, that would be sad and pretty unfair, lauren cohen always dies in every series she’s in, (Supernatural, The vampire Diaries), I just hope this will not be another series to add to her list.

    Comment by Art G – March 11, 2012 09:51 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Ah!!!!! I KNEW I knew her from somewhere!! She was Rose in TVD!!

      Comment by ava_adorable – March 19, 2012 09:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I think it would have been awesome if Shane had succeeded and killed Rick. ESPECIALLY after the internet spoilers. I knew the full summary of the episode before I watched it. I would have had so much respect for the writers/producers if they shot two separate endings, the one that aired, and one where Shane killed Rick… Then they could have leaked the one where Shane dies, and then aired the one where Rick dies. Everyone would be shocked. Robert Kirkman says he wants to shock people and wants us to believe no one is safe… Killing off Rick would serve that purpose very dramatically. As it is, we all kind of know which few characters are going to be spared… We all know who’s going to die; we just don’t know when.

    Also, having the whole next season with Shane there would have been intense. He’d know what he did, but no one else would… But I guess without Shane, Rick and finally turn into his comic-book self, which is a slightly more mild Shane… O_o

    Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 09:53 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • OMG what a mind blowing episode! i am crossing my fingers that Daryl doesnt die!! he is my absolute favorite!!

    Comment by China – March 11, 2012 09:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Now that Dale and Shane are gone, does that mean that Darrels brother maabe comming back as the leader of the other group that they are hiding from?

    Comment by michelle – March 11, 2012 09:56 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Why should I continue to watch it if they are going to kill someone off every damn week? Want to make it a better show? How about more survival from the “walkers”, and less sappy love story BS!

    Comment by Mike – March 11, 2012 09:56 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Really glad the Rick/Shane scene ended the way it did. Anxiously awaiting the finale and the revealing of Jenner’s secret. Can anyone tell me when the next season will be airing? Not sure my obsession can wait too awfully long…

    Comment by Mandi – March 11, 2012 09:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Do I understand correctly that Rick will be the only survivor, or is he just saying that anyone could die? I love The Walking Dead but am starting to hate it. What is the point in watching a show where at any moment, your favorite character could die. Say what you want about it being “realistic, suspenseful, or a great story.” Truth is, it sucks. In every other show, there are always suspensful moments where it looks like your favorite character will die, where you see no way out, but you know in the end they always manage to get out alive…and that’s great! The creators of TWD are ruining a great show by trying to make it “realistic.” What a waste

    Comment by Josh – March 11, 2012 10:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Rick won’t be the ONLY survivor; he’s just guaranteed to be ONE of the only survivors. If they follow the comics, a few other characters have been there from the beginning and are still living in the most recent issues.

      However, they could die at some point in the comics, and a few characters from the show (Daryl, T-Dog, Merle) aren’t in the comics, so we can’t even use the books to take a good guess about what will happen to them…

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • if you don’t like having your safety net then go watch the disney channel, pussy.

      Comment by soup – March 12, 2012 12:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • There can be no suspense when you know in the end your favorite characters will always manage to get out alive. The point of watching this show IS knowing that at any moment anyone could die.

      You don’t want suspense, you want comfort.

      Comment by Brandon – March 12, 2012 02:44 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I agree.
        I am happy that this show is not one of those boring eternally static series, where the whole sky can come tumbling down in an episode, and yet next episode everything is back to normal as if nothing happened.

        Comment by Didi – March 12, 2012 07:03 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • His name is Carl. Nothing in your post is correct, even the kid’s name on the show.

    Comment by Mike – March 11, 2012 10:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • What about Merril? Are we gonna find out what happened to him? I wouldve figured that Jenner wispered that Lori is pregnant in season 1 finale.

    Comment by Dom Raynes – March 11, 2012 10:05 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I was going to say that I wish Shane hadn’t died.. But Shane was acctually dangerous to the whole group.. But I wish he hadn’t been in pain when he died.
    GLEN RULES!!!!! Why does no one comment about him!? He’s sexy and badass. I love him. If he dies next week… I will cry myself to sleep.

    Comment by KeKe – March 11, 2012 10:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m fairly certain Glenn will be okay. ^_^ I like him too. People just don’t mention him because he’s not really involved in very many dramatic plot points.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Idea? When the virus turned the guy slowly in the first season (I forget his name) He started to go REALLY Crazy – began digging everyone’s graves and sometimes talking nonesense- and was craziest right when he was about to turn. Both Shane and Randall were kind of manipulative and off their rockers choice wise right before they were killed. Could this mean that the subtle craziness of some of these characters and the “loss of humanity” is due to them being infected and slowly being turned?

    Comment by caitynd – March 11, 2012 10:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I don’t think so. The guy in the first season didn’t just turn into a zombie after going crazy. He was bitten as well. Bites kill. Being dead turns you into a zombie. And Shane was going crazy for quite a while. Randall was a hostage on death row, so he had a right to be a little nuts as well.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • i wonder if lori had a miscarriage would tha baby become a zombie baby & infect her or eat its way out? & Michonne & Daryl 2gether just 1 time is all i want.

    Comment by John – March 11, 2012 10:10 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Who was daryl

    Comment by cornelius moore – March 11, 2012 10:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Also, did anyone see head wounds on some of the zombies’ heads? Do the walkers with brain trauma also come back? Is this virus evolving? It would make for an incredible end of the show if nothing else…

    Comment by caitynd – March 11, 2012 10:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I think they meant Karl

    Comment by Tricia – March 11, 2012 10:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Do I understand correctly that Rick will be the only survivor, or is he just saying that anyone could die? I love The Walking Dead but am starting to hate it. What is the point in watching a show where at any moment, your favorite character could die. Say what you want about it being “realistic, suspenseful, or a great story.” Truth is, it sucks. In every other show, there are always suspensful moments where it looks like your favorite character will die, where you see no way out, but you know in the end they always manage to get out alive…and that’s great! The creators of TWD are ruining a great show by trying to make it “realistic.” What a waste of time to watch a show where everyone dies in the end. You just come out of if feeling depressed. Why watch a show that gets you depressed? I can see killing off some people, but when everyone dies and there’s no victory, when evil wins once and for all and a TV series ends with no hope, just death, sadness and misery, then it’s a total waste of my time. Yes, a good story must have conflict, but only a terrible story has no resolution. I realize that the story hasn’t yet gotten to that point, but it seems that that is where it’s headed. It just angers me because I’m a big fan (for now) and have watched every hour-long episode a several times, and all those hours will be totally wasted if they ever kill my favorite character (Daryl, just for the record) and if everyone dies with no victory over the conflict.

    Comment by John – March 11, 2012 10:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • You already posted half of your comment, so I’ll post my same reply just in case you forgot about your other post:

      Rick won’t be the ONLY survivor; he’s just guaranteed to be ONE of the only survivors. If they follow the comics, a few other characters have been there from the beginning and are still living in the most recent issues.

      However, they could die at some point in the comics, and a few characters from the show (Daryl, T-Dog, Merle) aren’t in the comics, so we can’t even use the books to take a good guess about what will happen to them…

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Can I read the comic online?

    Comment by Alan – March 11, 2012 10:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • In the words of Shane (let me ask you something man) you’ll be missed Shane .

    Comment by Anthony – March 11, 2012 10:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Explanation to why Shane turned into a zombie. If you read any further into this it possibly could spoil the future episodes for you.

    Remember back in the first season when they were leaving the CDC and the head of the facility whispered something to rick but they didn’t show what the Doc was whispering? I believe this is along the lines of what he said. “We are all infected….we turn when we die”.

    This would explain what happened here in this episode. There were two separate occasions in this episode where people who didn’t get bitten became zombies when they died; Shane and the prisoner.

    Perhaps everyone has been under the wrong impression the whole time. We only assumed that it took a zombie bite to make someone turn into a zombie. I believe the bite only kills you and it makes sense with the hoard of bacteria that must be living inside those mouths. I mean there are already things in the world that can kill you with a lethal bit because of bacteria. Once someone dies they turn and it’s only assumed it was because of the bite and not a preexisting condition.

    My theory makes sense how the government and world was obliterated in such a short time even with the modernized armies of today because of the shear amount of people who die every single day. This was something I had struggled with when I started watching because it just didn’t make sense if something like this happened how in the world would it spread as rapidly as it did without much resistance.

    You might be asking then why was there just dead people on the road in the beginning of the season who were not zombified? One theory I could come up with was the government in a last ditch effort had tried some sort of experimental antidote that not only killed the disease but the host as well.

    Comment by the big guy did it – March 11, 2012 10:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • If you noticed all those people that just “appeared” to be dead had some sort of accident that could have potentially caused brain trauma, or they had been shot. So I’m thinking that may have something to do with it.

      Comment by Diana – March 11, 2012 10:29 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • What characters will they replace the dwindling members with? I mean, it can’t just get down to 1 person who options out with a bullet to the brain. That would be an anti-climactic end to an awesome show. Also, I’m still intrigued by whatever happened to the black guy and his son from season 1. Would love to see them reappear.

    Comment by r2blondies – March 11, 2012 10:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • CONTAINS POSSIBLE SPOILERS:

      In the comic, Rick meets back up with the guy and his son (the first people he met after waking up in the hospital.) I don’t know if they’ll find each other in the show though…

      Also, not all of the main cast is dead, and remember, their numbers were even lower before they moved on to the farm, and the show worked without Hershel and his kids. They only need 2 or 3 living characters to still have an interesting show, and the way I see it, there are going to be at least Rick, Carl, Glenn, Andrea, Maggie, and Michonne for a while. Plus some more if they have more of the comic’s characters introduced…

      The comics go on for ages and still aren’t at an end, so I have faith that the show can keep on chugging along for quite a while as well.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I hate saying this but, I was actually glad to see Shane go. They guy just really struck a raw nerve with me. I could relate and feel sympathy for him in Season 1 but Season 2 turned him into such a jerk.

    Comment by diana – March 11, 2012 10:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • OMG!!! Shane is dead, I wasn’t expecting that till the baby was born, & I so can’t wait till Sunday’s episode this show has me on the edge of my sit. :)

    Comment by Jessica – March 11, 2012 10:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Gotta say, for a minute there I thought Rick was buying it tonight. Congrats to the show creators and actors because they really had me thinking either Darryl was going to kill Shane w/an Arrow saving Rick or Shane was going to kill Rick and the show was about to change in a huge way.

    Comment by Joe – March 11, 2012 10:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • OMG!!! Shane is dead, I wasn’t expecting that till the baby was born, & I so can’t wait till Sunday’s episode this show has me on the edge of my seat :)

    Comment by Jessica – March 11, 2012 10:32 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • What was the deal with the ‘flashes’ of very animal like zombies feeding after Rick killed Shane. I wasn’t sure what they were going for there.

    Comment by Mark M. – March 11, 2012 10:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I was really confused about that as well… I was thinking it was either in Rick’s head or Shane’s… It just seemed out of place, since the show never has other shots like that…

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 10:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • The “flashes” were an artistic way of revealing – definitively – that everyone is infected and all people who die become zombies. The “flashes” represented Shane’s transformation.

      Comment by r.j. paré – March 11, 2012 10:54 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Okay so everyone is saying they are all infected. Remember the 2 guys Rick killed in the bar? Why didn’t they turn?! I don’t remember him shooting them in the head

    Comment by Erica – March 11, 2012 10:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • They didn’t stick around long enough for them to turn. Remember that Jenner said that some take a while to turn, and some turn very quickly.

      Comment by Kris – March 11, 2012 11:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I think he did shoot at least one of them in the head. I thought he shot the skinnier one in the head and we couldn’t really see where he shot the other. But indeed, they didn’t stick around long after. I remember hoping that one or both of the guys would come back as zombies in that episode and that would be how we “learned” about everyone being infected.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 11:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Didn’t Rick shoot the skinny guy in the head and then pop two into the fat one? Maybe like a gut shot and then a head shot? I didn’t go back and watch the episode prior to posting, but I thought that’s how it went down.

      Comment by katie – March 12, 2012 09:39 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Has anybody paused the preview of next week when Maggie is screaming NOOO? There is a swarm of zombies and amongst the hands is a pair of male hands in there. To me indicating that It’s most likely Hershels hands. The hands looked a little too white to be Glenns.

    My prediction is that Hershel and Andrea bite the dust next week.

    Comment by Bob – March 11, 2012 10:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Maybe it’s that other dude who’s on the farm. (Hershel’s son?) I’m fairly certain that next week’s deaths are going to be those insignificant characters whose names we can’t even remember. And I’m about 98% positive Andrea won’t die. Ever.

      Comment by Hannah – March 11, 2012 11:05 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • While I agree that Dr Jenner probably did whisper we are all infected to Rick in season 1. That still doesn’t explain why Rick himself acts like he doesn’t know. What did he just forget about it. Wouldn’t he have stabbed Shane in the head too. I mean he already knew. Why act surprised when Shane got back up? Other people have said maybe Jenner told Rick his wife is pregnat this makes no sense either why reveal that thats what jenner said in the next episode if everyone already knows shes pregnant. I still think were all infected is what he said but it just doesn’t jive with how Rick acted.
    Also why do so many of you think the baby has the cure, both his/her parents are infected (given that were all infected is what Jenner said) therfore the baby is also infected, the baby isnt gonna come out a zombie cause he/she’s not dead yet unless he/she dies in the womb.
    My biggest questions are where the hell is Merle(Daryl’s brother) and where the hell is Morgan and Duane(the black man and his son in season 1)? These 3 characters are pretty much M.I.A.

    Comment by DontBiteMeBro – March 11, 2012 11:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m not really sure if Rick was acting surprised. He may have thought it took longer to turn. If I had to shank my long-time deputy and buddy in order to save myself, my first thought would not necessarily be, “OK, gotta shoot him in the head now.” He appeared to have been not only grieving, but also angry at Shane for making him do it and dealing with the myriad of emotions going through him. Carl was there like ASAP so there wasn’t a whole hell of a lot of time to get it taken care of. I think we should be more concerned about Lori being the worst mom ever and always letting Carl sneak out. How the f did he weasel out of there if it the house was on lockdown? Bunch of irresponsible adults, if you ask me.

      What I’d love to know is if Carl becomes a Shane (I haven’t read the books, so I don;t know what happens, fanboys.

      Also, the baby may or may not also be a carrier of the infection. I was kind of comparing it to AIDS. Sometimes if the omther has it, the baby is lucky enough to NOT have it. However, if it is indeed airborne, he is only epidemic-free until he takes his first breath. Too bad Herschel isn’t an OBGYN- he could do an amniocentesis… ;)

      Comment by katie – March 12, 2012 09:45 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Youre right because Andrea’s sister took awhile to turn

    Comment by Erica – March 11, 2012 11:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I’m so excited for next week …so intrigued of how they turn to walkers afterwards they die.

    Comment by jane – March 11, 2012 11:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • SHOCKER! If Shane is gonna be dead. Next is, Carl, coz he’s acting stupid in the last episode while Dale been killed. At last, T-Dog is gonna have a long lines to beef up the story and lookin’ forward to Carol too.

    Comment by jx – March 11, 2012 11:22 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • You are talking about the boy right?! I read your posting and is there another little girl named carol? Or Is it ricks son Carl?

    Comment by Stryker – March 11, 2012 11:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Is Meril possible a member of Randall’s gang? They sound like Meril’s type of boys….. just wondering if Darrel will be next to have to decide this way or that way?

    Comment by Lisa Barnes – March 11, 2012 11:33 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Shane was my favorite character, he represented the best mix of good and bad to survive an apocalypse. RIP Shane…. On to the next subject, I have been inspired to read the comics. Hope it fills the empty space until next fall!

    Comment by Della – March 11, 2012 11:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • That was a very amazing episode… until the end. I guess I would be miffed and baffled as to why there were SO MANY DAMN ZOMBIES just lurking in the woods so close to the farm if the creator didn’t discuss that they would address that later. I mean, Rick/Shane/Glen/Daryl didn’t scout any wandering zombies out and about in the woods besides Randall? I know the time frame of it all and the huge woods could technically explain it, but after no explanation as to why the hell Carl keeps wandering off the last episode, these types of things stick out more.

    Which reminds me, wasn’t the rest of the group barricaded in Hershel’s house? So how the hell did Carl manage to sneak away this time to conveniently shoot Shane???

    But besides those convenient plot-movers/logic-breakers, great episode. Nice Dale funeral, zombie revelations, Shane/Rick showdown (THAT MOON!), and I especially loved when Lori let it all out and apologized for everything to Shane and essentially the audience!

    Comment by Bea – March 11, 2012 11:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Epic!

    Comment by James – March 11, 2012 11:47 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Greatest episode to date! Sad to think that someone else has to go but can’t wait to see what twist is put on next week’s episode! Not sure I like that everyone is infected and turns into a zombie when they die though…

    Comment by Alex A. – March 11, 2012 11:48 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Okay if the whole airborne thing is true…then I’m thinking Lori might miscarry and the baby becomes zombified and kills her from inside the womb!

    Comment by Aya – March 11, 2012 11:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Oh nevermind…I guess a couple of other people thought the same thing :/

      Comment by Aya – March 12, 2012 12:01 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Readin’ the previous comments, looks like some commentators (also the first commentators in the first page) havin’ a hard time dealin’ with the spells of names and the characters of the story! And so funny to this guys arguing on that. Stryker, YES! I’m referring to that stupid kid son of Rick! There are so much mystery questions leaving behind. And here it goes: 1. What happened to the Father and Son before Rick’s going to Atlanta? 2. Where’s Merill? 3. Is that zombiefied Jim will haunt down the survivors? They’re really trashed out the characters in season 1! I hope that my questions will answer in the next season!

    Comment by jx – March 12, 2012 12:08 AM PDT  Reply To This Post

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