Post Mortem: Walking Dead Boss Defends Last Night's Big [Spoiler], Teases Shocking Finale

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The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 12WARNING: If you have yet to watch The Walking Dead‘s next-to-last Season 2 episode tonight, run don’t walk to the nearest exit. We’re serious, folks. The following Q&A with showrunner Robert Kirkman contains massive spoilers. Trust us on this one. Everyone else, you may proceed…

This Just In: The Walking Dead is not fooling around anymore. One week after viewers watched in horror as Dale literally had his guts ripped out, AMC’s mega-hit went a step further in its penultimate Season 2 episode and whacked another, far more pivotal character: Shane!

Sure, the warning signs were there — on screen and off. For starters, Shane had become increasingly unhinged as Season 2 wore on, making Sunday’s deadly confrontation with frenemy Rick all the more inevitable. Also, as fans of the Walking Dead comic know full well, the TV character actually survived longer than his literary counterpart. Oh, and as you may’ve heard, Shane’s portrayer, Jon Bernthal, recently landed a starring role in former Dead exec producer Frank Darabont’s TNT pilot L.A. Noir.

Yet, the death of Shane — who, for all intents and purposes, was the show’s co-lead — nonetheless packed a punch, mostly because it sends a loud and clear message that absolutely no one (save for Rick) is safe. And if the episode itself didn’t adequately relay that, our post mortem with Robert Kirkman should. Read on as Dead‘s main creative force reveals why Shane had to die, how Bernthal reacted (read: he wasn’t pleased), whether Jenner’s secret message to Rick has already been revealed, and when the next major death will come (hint: very soon).

TVLINE | How long did you know that you were going to kill Shane off this early on in the series?
Before the first episode of Season 1 was shot. [Laughs] Frank always talked about how, if the first season had been 13 episodes, we would’ve went ahead and told the entire Shane story and killed him off at the end of the season, which was pretty much what we did in the comics. But because that was a six-episode season instead of a normal-sized season, we decided to hold it for Season 2.

TVLINE | Did you ever consider not following the comics and letting him survive – if not through the entire run of the series then maybe just another season or two? The Rick-Shane dynamic was such a major part of the show.
There was a lot of back-and-forth when we were mapping out the second season. I’ll admit even I — who killed him in the comic — was saying there were a lot of interesting things that could come out of keeping him in the show. We had a lot of fun [writing for the character] in the second season because there were a lot of things that changed from the comic. Having him exist on Hershel’s Farm brought out new stories and made us do some cool new things that were different from the comic. And I’m always for that kind of stuff because I like to keep things interesting. But at the end of the day, what we kept coming back to is that The Walking Dead is much more about Rick and his journey than it is about Shane and his journey. And keeping Shane around was, in a sense, stealing from Rick. It was time to let Rick emerge and see how Shane’s death affected him and how it informed his decisions. And I think that when people see the last episode of this season — and Season 3 — and where Rick goes because of this, they’ll see that this is all part of the larger plan. [His death] is definitely an important moment. And it really sucked to lose Jon Bernthal, but it’s going to make the show that much better and that much more deadly. Having lost Dale and Shane, now you really get the sense that any of these characters could go at any moment. And we’re definitely going to be continuing that in Season 3. This finally tells people, “This is what The Walking Dead is. This is what you can expect.”

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TVLINE | How far in advance did Jon know that this was going to be his final episode?
He always knew he was going to die, but there was a question of exactly which episode it was going to be. That moved around quite a bit. It wasn’t until we were actually breaking the last half of Season 2 that we nailed it down to a specific episode.

TVLINE | How did he react?
Honestly, he was bummed. The actors have become a family, and they really love working together. They’re kind of isolated in Georgia where they shoot; they spend a lot of time together when they’re not filming. But every actor knows that on this show… I think Sarah Wayne Callies has been quoted as saying that she knows it’s not a matter of if she’s going to die but when; that’s what the show is. But it’s still very sad when actors have their last day on set. Jon was definitely upset. But he understood. He knew why we were doing it and what was going on. He was accepting of it.

TVLINE | Was he satisfied creatively with Shane’s final arc?
Absolutely. All of the actors are really great collaborators and have good ideas, and when Jon read the death scene he definitely had some questions and some suggestions. And he worked a lot with [the episode's writers] Glen Mazzara and Evan Reilly to try and beef it up. He had some little notes and they came to an understanding and really convinced Jon that this is what the scene needs to be. There was a lot of back-and-forth, and in the end Jon really loved the scene.

TVLINE | What was your reaction when news leaked that Jon had been cast in L.A. Noir?
It was an unfortunate mishap [that resulted from AMC] moving the last half of the season until February instead of just running it straight through. If we had aired it all in succession and ended in December it wouldn’t have been a problem. But by holding back the season, [the news] did kind of spoil things. It was a bummer that it spoiled the show to a certain extent, but I was happy for Jon. I think it’s exciting for him to be working for Frank again and I’m really looking forward to seeing that show. And it’s cool to know that Jon is constantly working. The tough thing for me is that when I kill a character in a comic book I am making the artist, Charlie Adlard, draw a different arrangement of lines from now on. Killing a character doesn’t really affect anybody but the readers. But when you kill a character on a TV show you are, in a sense, firing an actor. And the thing that upsets me about that is it’s always about the story; it’s never about the actor’s performance. And I’m a blue-collar guy, so if you fire somebody you need to have a reason. So it’s really upsetting to me every time we have to kill a character. So to know that Jon has another job makes me happy. Because I feel guilty about the whole firing thing.

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TVLINE | Shane turning into a zombie in the end pretty much confirms that everyone’s already infected. Can you confirm that that’s what Jenner whispered in Rick’s ear?
[Hesitates] Well, I can’t confirm that. But what I can say is that Shane turning after being stabbed definitely does inform Rick revealing what Jenner whispered, in the next episode.

TVLINE | So we’ll finally find out what he whispered in next week’s finale?
Yes.

TVLINE | Does Rick debate sharing this newfound intel with the others, or does the approaching zombie stampede delay that?
Yeah, there’s sh-t ton of zombies on the way to the farm, so he’s not going to have a lot of time for that.

TVLINE | This does raise the question about the dead bodies in the season-opening traffic jam — why hadn’t they all been turned?
I think if you go back and watch that [sequence you'll see] we were very careful to have them be in cars that were in accidents, so the brain would’ve had trauma. Or they had some kind of wounds somewhere on their heads to show that their brains had been killed, like somebody came across and killed them. We knew that we were building to this throughout the entire season.

TVLINE | I know you can’t name names, but have you quietly made any decisions to spare someone’s life on the show who died in the comics?
Dale’s death in the comic book came way later than it did in the TV show. And Shane’s death in the comic book came way sooner than it did in the TV show. So that’s pretty much the model that we’re going to be following throughout the life of the series. Some characters will die before they reached the point that they reached in the comic book series, and some people will outlast their comic-book counterpart. And that’s going to be done to keep things interesting [and] because it’s not just me writing the television show. There are five or six other people that have good ideas that are contributing to the show, and it would be wrong to go, “That’s a good idea but that’s not how we did it in the comics.” There will definitely be differences. You can’t use the comic book to gauge when or how someone is going to die.

TVLINE | Will there be another major death next week?
I can say that the cast that enters the final episode this season does not leave the final episode intact. And there are a lot of surprises still yet to come.

TVLINE | Will the finale end on a cliffhanger, as in mid-scene? Or will it be more similar to the Season 1 finale, which ended in a more resolute place?
It’s not quite a true cliffhanger, but it’s much closer to a cliffhanger than what we had last season.

TVLINE | And lastly, will T-Dog be allowed to speak again?
[Laughs] T-Dog definitely has a lot of cool moments in the finale and a lot of lines. I apologize for that. It’s one of those things where certain characters have to recede into the background to give room to the other characters because we have such a large cast. But every character will get their moment to shine — T-Dog included.

What did you think of the episode and, specifically, Shane’s death? Deposit your snappy judgments in the comments, and then check out Ask Ausiello Tuesday for even more scoop on next Sunday’s Dead finale (including who most definitely won’t be in it).



Comments (511)

  • exciting last ten minutes. carl’s one heck of a shot for a little kid but a great way to send shane out!

    Comment by tlbrownlie – March 11, 2012 07:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I was expecting a season finale death so this was what I would call a shocker.

      Comment by A. – March 11, 2012 08:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • That’s what I was thinking, and at night too. I guess they kind of stuck to the comic in a way with Carl shooting Shane, even though it was a completely different senario in the book.

      Comment by Trish – March 11, 2012 08:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I think it helps keep things interesting to find plot twists like that: Shane’s death was surprising to me because it had nothing to do with the one from the comic book.

        Comment by Dale's RV – March 12, 2012 01:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I have a question regarding the comic books: Are the characters as stoopid in them as they are on the tv show? Honestly, nobody ever looks around them to see if maybe a zombie is creeping up on them! They didn’t bother to build a bigger wall or dig a moat around the farm to keep out invaders, zombie or human. Why do these people keep stumbling upon zombies who apparently growl and gurgle louder than helicopters? And why doesn’t ANYBODY keep an eye on Carl? This isn’t the 1920s.

        Comment by KevyB – March 12, 2012 09:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I said the same thing! Why don’t they build a big trap for the walkers? They’re obviously attracted to noise. Make some noise and have them all stumble into a pit or something. Walkers don’t seem to be the brightest creatures. It shouldn’t be hard.
          Also, Carl should be grounded. He doesn’t listen to anyone and his mother should have her parental rights taken away! lol

          Comment by Peggy – March 13, 2012 07:24 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Stoopid is as Stoopid does

          Comment by kevin – March 13, 2012 12:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • you are so right. What in the world was Carl doing wandering around after Rick and Shane at night no less, by himself!! What kind of mother does he have, she doesn’t even notice that he is gone. He is bound to get it one of these days!

          Comment by Katherine – March 13, 2012 06:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • That surprised me watching carol shoot that zombie,for as i remember if he was that good of a shot then why is it that,the creek zombie got away from him at even a shorter of a distance, and the fact that rick thinks his son is peeved at him for killing shane, it really reveals alot of maturity in carol and yet puts mystery in his role as well, i personally think that as a outcome of carols own actions he has to face maturity alot earlier in his life then he thought he would have to instead of playing a child,carol is inevitably going to be a 1st generation zombie hunter.I have a feeling that rick being there for his sons first zombie kill will really put cofindence into his son like a understated its ok to kill when nessacary, and giving his son better judment skills at the same time, and i really see carol taking over the role as a leader of his own colony and leaving the group hes in to help better the lives of others in a sick twisted world not alot of people yet understand…Im really hoping that this series takes a turn for a salty yet dark turn for carol in the future ..but not making him all the way evil, more like a riddik mixed with the girl from res evil.

      Comment by tim – March 11, 2012 09:08 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Carl hesitated to shoot the creek zombie to the point the zombie knocked the guns out of his hands , i guess it was not easy to shot something that once was a human being.As for shooting the zombie behind his dad well what better push that save his dad’s life besides he at some point practiced with Shane.

        Comment by All_PR – March 11, 2012 09:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • if u notice carol pulls the gun on his dad b 4 shane even gets up as a walker

          Comment by scott – March 12, 2012 09:15 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • I think Carl saw Shane moving on the ground thats when he pointed the gun

            Comment by mokasparky – March 12, 2012 05:52 PM PDT  
      • who the heck is carol??????????????????????????

        Comment by mike – March 11, 2012 09:52 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Carol is Carl, Mike. I don’t know why the misspelling but it’s not the first post I’ve seen where someone got it wrong.

          Comment by Lee – March 11, 2012 10:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • They meant Carl. But there is a Carol, she is Sophia’s mom. Or was, as it were.

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          Comment by ada – March 12, 2012 01:47 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Tim it is Karl not Carol dumbass!

        Comment by John – March 11, 2012 10:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Well, geez, “John”. It’s almost like you’ve never made a mistake yourself. I am sure “Tim” feels sill for referring to “Carl” as “Carol” but it seems like a fairly understandable mistake. But to jump on him with a high and mighty “dumbass!”, well, I think “John” needs to layoff the coffee and pull the stick out of his arse. Oh, and by the way, it’s “Carl” not “Karl”, dumbass!

          Comment by Shane – March 11, 2012 11:53 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • I couldnt have said it better myself!

            Comment by Vanessa – March 12, 2012 11:36 AM PDT  
          • nicley said. So what if this person spelled a word wrong, my goodness give a person a break. We are all fans of walking dead, just chill, and keep it on the topic.

            Comment by trees – March 12, 2012 01:52 PM PDT  
          • NICE , lol

            Comment by mokasparky – March 12, 2012 05:54 PM PDT  
        • obviously, people using phones with spellcheckers or browsers with spell checkers get Carl translated into Carl, mister dumberass

          Comment by Eddie – March 12, 2012 01:29 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Carl translated into Carl….. I think you meant to right Carol… Youre all dumberasses

            Comment by K – March 12, 2012 05:32 AM PDT  
          • Actually, K, it’s “You’re” not “youre”. You’re dumbestassfacestypidbuttmunchcrunchyhairdoofus.

            Comment by Shane – March 12, 2012 08:03 AM PDT  
          • And, me, it’s “dumbestassfacestupidbuttmunchcrunchyhairdoofus” not “dumbestassfacestypidbuttmunchcrunchyhairdoofus”. I am so dumberestassstupiddumbheadbuttfaceraunchdoggypoopdingleberry.

            Comment by Shan – March 12, 2012 08:04 AM PDT  
          • @K, it’s “write” not “right”. Talk about the dumbasses calling each other out.

            Besides, what does any of this have to do with TWD?!?!

            Comment by Lisa – March 12, 2012 08:37 AM PDT  
          • Actually, Lisa, your name is “Ronald”. Lessdumbassery.

            Comment by Larry – March 12, 2012 08:50 AM PDT  
          • FWIW, the “carl” on LOST was called KARL and he was a dumbass too. :-) lol

            Comment by Mike – March 12, 2012 09:34 AM PDT  
      • its Carl not carol, first i thought it was a mispelled but you repeated carol all over your comment

        Comment by debbie – March 12, 2012 06:57 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Actually I sometimes go by the name Carol so you’re all wrong except for the first guy.

          Comment by Carl – March 12, 2012 05:05 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Carl, get back in the damn house!

            Comment by Brian – March 14, 2012 11:03 AM PDT  
      • It’s Carl not Carol you idiot. Make a comment about a show but please spell check before you send.

        Comment by BarK – March 13, 2012 01:48 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • it’s Carl..not Carol. Carol is a girl’s name

        Comment by rita – March 14, 2012 10:34 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • i didn’t see that coming with shan hope we get some more people in the cast were losein everyone. will there be a game come out soon (x-box ) any one know?

      Comment by rat – March 12, 2012 09:02 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • There’s suppose to be a downloadable game coming in the fall I think. PS3 and X-box. You can probably find the trailer online somewhere

        Comment by ran76 – April 3, 2012 11:52 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Yeah, I’m so proud of Carl, I don’t think he completely redeemed himself for pretty much killing Dale, but I’m glad Shane is finally dead. As for others, I just hope nobody in the main group dies, plus Maggie. As for Herschel and the rest of the family, their hope was smashed when the barn was opened, they would probably welcome death if they died next week. Hey, wouldn’t a crazy ending be if… oh dang! I already forgot his name, Jarrod? No, wait maybe, well whatever. If his group came and helped fight off the Walkers that mass on the farm, if they saved most of the group. The thing that kinda got me was the clip on Talking Dead where Carl asked Rick what really happened to Shane and then Rick tries to explain but then he hears all the walkers.

      Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:01 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Ironic. Shane is the one who taught the kid to shoot

      Comment by mo – March 21, 2012 10:20 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I think it was a good decision, and will be interesting creatively for the show. I hope it moves Rick into the “gray” moral area since he will now have to view things from both sides without Dale and Shane arguing each side of the spectrum for him.

    Ausiello, is this the major death from your blind item?

    Comment by Dusty – March 11, 2012 07:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Great episode. Knew the Shane/Rick scene would have to end that way, as did Shane’s ultimate story line. I’m glad Carl got to shoot him, as he did in the comics (obviously not exactly the same) and I’m super psyched about next week’s finale. Would like to know, if anyone can help (I asked last week, will ask again)… is THIS the death that was spoiled in the AMC trailer for the DVD? Simple yes or no would do, please don’t spoil any deaths in the finale! Please and thank you!

    Comment by heatherp – March 11, 2012 07:10 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • The only DVD spoiler I heard was when they advertised in the special features “Shane’s Last Episode” so yea it would be :)

      Comment by Ed – March 11, 2012 07:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • heatherp – Yes, the descriptions of the bonus features on the DVDs mentioned “Shane’s last episode.” Oops!

      Comment by MelissaLossa – March 11, 2012 07:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I don’t know of any trailer but his death was included in the season DVD description. AMC said that the description wasn’t authorized and it was going to be investigated. Mind you, the DVD description was on their own website. Hope that helps!

      Comment by Jackie – March 11, 2012 07:30 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Thanks all! That’s exactly what I was talking about… I didn’t know if it was in the trailer or something else because I had been avoiding the articles like the plague so it wasn’t spoiled!

        Comment by heatherp – March 11, 2012 07:51 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • no and yes

      Comment by carter – March 11, 2012 08:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • WTF just happened! DEF game changer!!! Wowi just wow!

    Comment by Natalie – March 11, 2012 07:12 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Spoiler for upcoming season so do not read if u don’t wanna know. Please Kirkman. Please. Do not cut off one of ricks hands. Cool for comics but not for t.v.

    Comment by g b – March 11, 2012 07:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I believe Kirkman has stated somewhere that he actually regretted writing the bit where Rick’s hand is cut off. I think we got our hand cutting with Daryl in the beginning of season 1

      Comment by Bill – March 11, 2012 10:16 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • oops, I meant Merle, not Daryl

        Comment by Bill – March 11, 2012 10:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • For some reason I have been thinking that instead of cutting off his hand, he may just lose a finger. They can just keep his hand wrapped up and it won’t need any special effects. Though, I think it might be cooler if he loses an eye instead… he can wear a pirate eye patch. hehe

      Comment by The Squatch – March 12, 2012 05:59 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Awesome episode. Love the Shane death scene even though i know it was coming due to reports.

    Comment by Jason A – March 11, 2012 07:40 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I only need to know one thing. Tell me Daryl doesn’t die!

    Comment by Kannibal – March 11, 2012 07:50 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Well, Daryl was looking at Carol like he meant business so there’s that. Not that an actual love life has spared the life of any character in Thw Walking Dead yet(look no further than Shane).

      Comment by Anonymous – March 11, 2012 08:08 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Egads! I saw that look too and am hoping beyond hope Andrea changes his mind. A Daryl and Carol hook up would ruin this for me.

        Comment by bethany – March 12, 2012 06:48 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Andrea has been sleeping with Shane ever since he broke up with Lori, I think she’s going to be way too busy seeking revenge on Rick in order to have a new love interest next season.

          Comment by K – March 12, 2012 07:42 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Its a fanfiction history @bethany: Get over it! Andrea was more interested in Shane than she ever was on Daryl and its not like he looks at her the way he looks at Carol. What’s next? A fanfiction love triangle between T-Dog, Maggie & Glenn?!

            Comment by Dale's RV – March 12, 2012 07:46 AM PDT  
          • *Spoiler*

            Look like no Andrea/Dale lovin’ in the prison.

            Comment by ran76 – April 3, 2012 11:57 PM PDT  
    • That is what I’m sayin. Daryl is my favorite character. He is not in the comic books, so who knows. Man I hope not.

      Comment by Trish – March 11, 2012 08:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Trish, Daryl is definitely my favourite character too and has been almost from the start. I was watching the show tonight scared out of my wits they were going to kill him off. I don’t think I’d even want to watch it anymore if they do that. I hope he and Carol get together soon. I like them both.

        Comment by Cheryl – March 11, 2012 08:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I agree, Daryl & Carol have been the ongoing romantic plot of the season and they would make a really great couple IMO.

          Comment by TV fan – March 12, 2012 07:39 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I am soooo with you there! If Darrell dies Im done with TWD.. Hes a bad mo-fo (I cant WAIT to meet him at the full moon tattoo and horror fest this coming April), and if he dies its all going downhill from there.. But just because Shane died does not mean that TWD will end.. Just remember (according to randall) there are approximately 30 others out there “that might have moved on by now” to replace the the evil shane.. I for one am super hyped to see what has yet to come. Personally I would kill off T-Dawg or Laurie.. T-Dawg because he has been kinda in the shadows and hasnt even began to show what them BIG guns can do.. and Laurie simply for being a ho….LOL J/K.. Seriously,I havent read the books and Im so glad because

        Comment by BabyGirl – March 12, 2012 12:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • i agree with killing off Lori or T-Dog(BIG Guns??). I personally dont care about new characters…Shane was a great character and Jon Bernthal was great playing him. I wish they kept him around longer…besides that Daryl and Shane seemed like they were on the same level, just Shane had that tramp Lori messing with his head!

          Comment by Brian – March 16, 2012 05:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Not surprised to see him go, I just thought he would have lasted one more episode. Next week’s going to be a hell of an episode, then it’s gonna be a long wait till October.

    Comment by Carmichael – March 11, 2012 07:53 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • long wait, that’s the understatement of the year

      Comment by Deven – March 12, 2012 08:46 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • At least it isn’t a December to October wait after 6 episodes like we had with season 1. But yeah, it will still be a long wait!

        Comment by Mike – March 12, 2012 09:37 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Im thinking I am going to be going through withdrawals until it comes back on. I havent been this invested in a show in a long time

          Comment by Chris – March 12, 2012 05:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Oh yeah, I’m with you guys, this is gonna be one long wait. Good thing I’ve got Mass Effect 3 to help bide the time. Oh wait, just thought, how much of a bonus is the time Season 3 starts. I get to watch more TWD and Assassin’s Creed III come out, that’s a way to spend Halloween. Watch some Walking Dead and then play some Assassin’s Creed.

            Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:05 AM PDT  
          • I agree, I care so much about these characters its crazy!

            Comment by eve – March 14, 2012 09:13 PM PDT  
  • I have been waiting for Carl to shoot Shane and I hoped this would be it when he pulled his gun on Rick. But I guess Carl killing zombie Shane was good enough.

    Comment by Jenny – March 11, 2012 07:57 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I’m so happy they killed Shane, the guy was getting on my nerves! But please never kill Daryl off. I love him so much!

    Comment by christina – March 11, 2012 08:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Daryl’s a big fan favorite. He’s my favorite – without him, survival would have been more difficult. I don’t wanna know who dies in the season finale, I’d rather experience the shock next week, but I know through some minor spoilers that more will get killed next week.

      Comment by John B. – March 11, 2012 08:20 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I love Daryl also. I hope they beef up his story with Carol. However, Merle? I could care less if we ever see him again. He was too one dimensional. Total asshole.

        Comment by Peggy – March 13, 2012 07:30 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • It wasnt shocking if you read the comic books. I have been waiting all freaking season for him to finally b killed off

    Comment by Chuck – March 11, 2012 08:05 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • im so sick of “comics”..Yuck..This is a tv show..why does a character have to die on the show if he dies in the comics? i think killing off Shane will hurt the show..i hope not, but i could care less to see some chick who is a sword master cut off zombie heads…yawn..boring.. Dale and Shane should have been kept around longer at least until we meet the Governor. Sucks…

      Comment by Brian – March 16, 2012 05:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • You don’t care for the comics, yet you know about the Governor? O_o

        Comment by ran76 – April 4, 2012 12:01 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • How does a zombie with a broken neck hold its head up straight?

    Comment by Schmuz – March 11, 2012 08:08 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Precisely what I was thinking. He should have held it at an angle at the very least.

      Comment by Lisa – March 11, 2012 08:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Incomplete break perhaps? Also just speculation here since I’m no MD, but just because your neck is broken doesn’t mean the muscles in the neck can’t hold the head up. It’s entirely possible that Shane could have broke his neck enough to kill him but not a complete break. The neck muscles are more than strong enough to hold your head up right, also the vertebrae are broken but still stacked upon each other possibly allowing an upright position for the head.

        Then again these are zombies so who knows entirely? Also, is anyone peeved that these characters have such a hard time throwing or over powering shrivelled up zombies who are somehow able to overtake a healthy, fit person?

        Comment by Hunter – March 11, 2012 11:04 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • you realize that when a walker is shot in the body, it doesn’t even phase it… if you shot a person in the body like they do, it would drop no problem… same reason they stay alive no problem without limbs.. healthy humans aren’t infected zombies with no pain/real human emotion

          Comment by walker – March 12, 2012 12:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Zombies don’t feel muscular fatigue, so they could probably exert a lot more force than expected, which would allow them to easily overtake another human.

          Comment by Dylan – March 12, 2012 10:16 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • hey, I’m an MD. If you get your neck broken the vertebrae become misaligned and so it would still be at some wierd angle. Also when you get your neck broken 1 or 2 of 2 things are going to happen. Either it is purely a skeletal injury and you will still be able to move just with a lot of pain (way more than any advil could take away) or it will sever nerve tissue in your spinal column. All the nerves controlling your body go up through that column and into your brain so if any of it is damaged you could get numbness in parts of your body or you could be completely paralyzed. With the second case, the nerves controlling the contraction in your neck and shoulder muscles will not function properly and so you will not be able to hold your head straight, not that it matters because you can’t use the rest of your body either. That all being said however, this is a show that requires a certain suspension of disbelief. If this was a purely scientific post everybody here would be laughed at for even suggesting the dead can rise.

          Comment by Ryan – March 14, 2012 07:57 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • as I’ve been trying to tell anyone… in every good zombie story everyone dies… the more involved a character is the more disturbing their death needs to be.

    Comment by Crash – March 11, 2012 08:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wow! Can’t believe they killed shane! but how did he come back? was he infected and that’s what brought the kid back also? can’t wait to hear. Love the Show!!!!

    Comment by Suzannl – March 11, 2012 08:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • basically no one safe after death.. think of the epidemic as airborne

      Comment by Lovelykbug – March 11, 2012 08:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • if the virus is airborne or if the people already are infected… what is going to happen to Lorie’s baby? or is she even going to be able to have it? i do not have the ability to find the comics so i can not read them… i have to wait for the shows… and i do have to say i am loving them.

        Comment by keria – March 11, 2012 08:46 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Oh I hope they kill Lori off before she has the kid. Her character is totally annoying.

          Comment by Nancy – March 12, 2012 01:13 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Why should something happen to Lori’s baby? It’s infected by an after-death virus, so as long as the baby’s alive, it should be fine, just as everyone else is, until they die, that is.

          I hope Lori has a miscarriage and the zombie baby eats her from inside out!

          Comment by asdasd – March 12, 2012 01:41 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • LOL, that would be awesome. Lori is so freaking annoying.

            Comment by Mooshki – March 12, 2012 06:30 AM PDT  
          • I don’t mind Lori most of the time but seeing this would be completely awesome.

            Comment by Ashley – March 12, 2012 07:03 AM PDT  
          • I’m thinking a baby being conceived & born in the middle of the outbreak could carry the antibodies to contain the infection, rather than being a zombie that is.

            Comment by Dale's RV – March 12, 2012 07:48 AM PDT  
          • Fuguring Lori’s baby is still born and you get a zombie babie trying to eat Mom form the inside out.

            Comment by Ken – March 12, 2012 10:07 AM PDT  
        • Whoa, wouldn’t that be freaky?! Lori getting eaten alive by her zombie baby! Jk, though, Obviously Rick’s family has immunity.

          Comment by Chris – March 12, 2012 11:23 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • I have been reading the comments. I haven’t read anything about how Lori has been leading Shane on the last three episodes. My reason for saying this is Lori pretty much told Shane he will never have nothing to do with the baby. Then last nights show she pretty much says ” I don’t know who the BD is”. which caused an already confused Shane to try murder Rick to get to Lori and carl. I think she is the most confused, misleading, deceitful charactor in the show.

            Comment by Rodney – March 12, 2012 01:13 PM PDT  
        • you can find the comics on amazon if you want to buy them as trades… or bittorrent

          Comment by ran76 – April 4, 2012 12:05 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Or it could be all of the blood that splatters all over each of them as they hack the zombies to pieces!

        Comment by kec – March 11, 2012 09:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Everyone is already infected. If you die without enough head trauma, you come back as a zombie. If a zombie bites you, it causes a fast, nasty infection that kills you. Zombie spit is bad, I figure.

      Comment by Davad – March 11, 2012 08:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Did Otis become a zombie? If they had not shot Dale in the head, would he have become one also?

        Comment by Bad Breaker – March 12, 2012 04:03 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • read the spoilers… you find out in next episode (most likely) that the virus is airborn… but only affects those that die. regardless, you’re supposed to find out what jenner (from the CDC) whispered to rick in this season’s finale

      Comment by walker – March 12, 2012 12:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • That had to be what the guy at the CDC whispered in Rick’s ear.

      Everyone has the zombie virus and it becomes active when you die.
      You don’t have to be bitten or scratched.
      The only way to avoid becoming a walker is to die of a head injury.

      Shane was such an A-hole,I’m glad they killed him off,twice.
      I know next week is supposed to be brutal with some more of the group dying but I hope Daryl isn’t one of them.

      Comment by Laurel – March 12, 2012 01:02 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • True, I’m surprised by how many “Shane had to go”s when he was sooooo pivotal for the love triangle/ the breakthrough role of the show.

    Comment by A – March 11, 2012 08:10 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • a good character (and actor) knows how to get everyone to hate him, i was happy he died, it was a long time coming. I was hoping he would have died in the bus, but rick saved him

      Comment by Deven – March 12, 2012 08:54 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • great ending..just patiently waiting for my favorite.. Michonne!

    Comment by Lovelykbug – March 11, 2012 08:11 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I know…I can’t wait for Michonne either – she’s gonna be a BIG game-changer!!

      Comment by becca – March 11, 2012 08:33 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Although I not read the books themselves only the synopsis available on-line, I too am looking forward to seeing Michonne. Sounds like my kinda woman!

      Comment by WalkersRUS – March 15, 2012 12:48 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yo darryl my favorite. I don’t understand how did shane turn into a zombie and he never got bitten

    Comment by tyler – March 11, 2012 08:11 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Everyone is a carrier, so they all turn into zombies when thay die.

      Comment by avee82 – March 11, 2012 08:40 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • why does everyone keep saying that is the solution? That dude on Talking Dead said that as a theory, which doesn’t make it the solution.

        Comment by solace84 – March 12, 2012 08:25 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • jenner did whisper something to rick last season… it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the virus/disease could mutate, as real-life viruses/diseases do just that. it’s been semi-confirmed by the creator that this twist is coming…

          Comment by walker – March 12, 2012 12:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • How many more seasons will there be?????

    Comment by Chris – March 11, 2012 08:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I heard a rumor about AMC confirming a fourth season so, if it’s true, there will be at least four.

      Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 09:55 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • All I have to say is I hope Daryl never dies!! I love that character.

    Comment by Sandy – March 11, 2012 08:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Please, please, please don’t kill Daryl. He is my absolute favorite!

    Comment by Kelsey – March 11, 2012 08:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • The past two weeks have been the best episodes all season. But I’m in agreement with others–please don’t kill off Daryl!! On a personal note, please keep Glenn as well!

    Comment by Brenda – March 11, 2012 08:15 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Oh, I am totally with you Brenda, they had better not kill Daryl or Glenn and as for the last two weeks, best episodes the entire series so far. I cried when Dale died last week, it was really sad but then this week I was so happy, I cheered like I was watching the Superbowl again. When Carl shot Walker Shane, I mean I’m only 17 but, I was so proud I wished there was a zombie apocalypse and Carl was my son. I mean, my joy level was like a 10 when Rick stabbed Shane but when Carl shot his Walker, it jumped to like, a 20.

      Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:10 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Finally, Rick put that rabid dog Shane down. Now the question is…… how did Shane come back as a walker and what does that mean for the baby ? Is the babies DNA now going to be the key to a cure ????? Am I the only one who sees this coming ?

    Comment by Ed – March 11, 2012 08:16 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • very good question!! and what a great solution that would be!

      Comment by sue – March 11, 2012 09:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • No no no…you die, you come back. simple as that. bites cause infections which will kill you quickly and reanimate the body. And the origin of the phenomena is never explained in much detail in any of the Romero films which have basically set the rules.

        Comment by bOb – March 11, 2012 10:49 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Last Episode SHane stabs walkers in head with knife then uses same blade to cut his hand and spread blood on bus frame as bait
          That would be how he was infected My son and I commented to each other when we saw it happen

          Comment by Peter – March 12, 2012 12:56 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • Ok, but what about Randall? He came back pretty fast too with no bites or scratches.

            Comment by Melanie – March 12, 2012 05:12 AM PDT  
          • I don’t know, I’m kinda leaning toward the “it’s airborne and it’s already infected everyone” theory. Romero actually brought that up in an interview during one of the zombie movies he released a few years back. The reporter asked him why all the people who died turned into zombies and Romero told him that they all have the virus, it’s just a matter of dying first for them to be reanimated. You have to think of this as a possiblity because it has been two years and then some since Rick got shot and went into his coma.

            Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:14 AM PDT  
          • By the way, the only reason I brought up Romero’s zombie tactics is because that kinda seems what the Walking Dead zombies are based off. The fresh ones are faster and stronger while the ones that have undergone rigor mortis are slower and pretty weak compared to their fresh counterparts. So, just a theory.

            Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:17 AM PDT  
          • i think first he cuts his hand for the blood before he stabs the zombie

            Comment by CipS – March 15, 2012 12:37 AM PDT  
    • in the comic someone kill lori and the baby so forget about the dna cure

      Comment by Diego – March 11, 2012 11:01 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • JERK!!!! Thanks for ruinging THAT one :). Besides, who knows if they veer off from that direction and Lori and Rick live happily ever after. That would be much more annoying, but it’s pretty obvious that they are straying from the comics.

        Comment by Katie – March 12, 2012 08:13 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Jerk.

    Comment by Jessica – March 11, 2012 08:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • They kept shane around longer then in the book. They will also explain how they come back as walkers when they havnt even been bitten or scratched a little later on. The story I am waiting to see play out that wasnt in the books is Daryl and his brother.

    Comment by Chuck – March 11, 2012 08:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Has anyone forgotten about the mystrerious father with his son that took Rick into his house before Rick headed off to Atlanta? What happened to him? The actors name is Lennie James. He was great on Jerico as a mysteryman. Maybe he will be the one in charge of the rival camp. what if Daryl’s brother is in that camp.

      Comment by deadthingsmikey!deadthings! – March 11, 2012 09:00 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • What a great idea about Lennie James! I’ve been wondering about him off and on too! And what a wonderful twist that would make, BUT that character seemed to be very family oriented so I don’t see him allowing young girls to get raped. But Daryl’s brother on the other hand….so many possibilities!

        Comment by Pam – March 11, 2012 10:09 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • the misterious father should show up again in the future, tho i dont think in the 3rd season, IF they dont write him off the TV Series

        Comment by Eddie – March 12, 2012 01:33 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • I’m not sure about the tv series,but in the comics the father survives and his son is a zombie. He keeps his son chained up and feeds other survivers he finds to him. Rick gets him to join with the group.

        Comment by donna – March 12, 2012 03:20 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • He does show up again in the comics after the Prison storyline so it’s possible

        Comment by ran76 – April 4, 2012 12:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Ok im confused on how everyone can be infected … Is the diesase evolving ? Is it airborne??

    Comment by Kathy – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Ok that episode bout made me freak out. Can’t believe Rick had to stab shane, what choice did he have though and then Carl shot him. And where did the hundred zombies in the field come from? I wanna know what the heck is gonna happen now!!! I can’t wait til next week

    Comment by hope – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m wondering if Shane left some blood or animal hanging from that wind tower to attract the walkers. They do smell blood and alwyas head in that direction. Maybe this is how all those zombies are walking towards the farm (where the wind tower is). Just a thought.

      Comment by Moe – March 12, 2012 07:12 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • no. shane shot his gun that the zombies heard.

        Comment by solace84 – March 12, 2012 08:21 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Unfortunately that does not explain why there were (at least) dozens of zombies roaming the fields/forest so close to the farm. They have barely run into any zombies all season that close to the farm. Yeah, know there have been a few (less than 10 I would say), but not that many. The gun shot would not have instantly brought them that close. When the gun went off, you saw them turning and looking toward the sound. Why were they all there now and not in the past. I think that is what Moe is trying to find an answer to.

          Comment by Jason McD – March 12, 2012 12:45 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • The prisoner guy mentioned that his group were within five miles of the farm. Maybe they are rounding up zombies and releasing them as a kind of first wave attack. Just a thought, haven’t read the comics. Long live Daryl, badasss all the way.

            Comment by colmmeister – March 12, 2012 02:03 PM PDT  
      • Yeah, I was kind of thinking along those lines as well. Maybe that mysterious other group was actually herding, or leading, the zombies onto the farm in the hopes that they could steal the group’s supplies… and possibly women… while the group is distracted fighting off the walkers.

        Comment by The Squatch – March 12, 2012 06:13 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • My sister has been nagging me all month about how much she loves Shane because he’s sexy. Sweet, sweet revenge.

    Ah well, he was an awesome actor, but I’m glad his roll is over.

    Comment by Mark – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Unlike The Vampire Diaries, “sexy” doesn’t cut it in The Walking Dead. Neither wisdom (Dale), expertise (Jenner) or wits (Randall) for that matter. This is how you do a show IMO!

      Comment by A. – March 11, 2012 08:22 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Agree with you on the first three… but I don’t think Randall was very witty. He was more of a whiner :)

        Comment by Chris – March 12, 2012 11:31 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • This is all my sister is saying! “Oh my gosh, I can’t believe he died!” I was telling her that Rick is cuter and she said to me that she hopes he dies.

      Comment by Nicole – March 12, 2012 04:11 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I for one loved Shane. I did fear for him the previous episode (forgot title) where Rick abandoned his partner. It seemed they foreshadowed Shane’s doom when he broke the window glass. Before the walkers poured out, there was a brief shot of a very unhealthy looking/zombie-esque Shane reflected in the glass. Don’t know if I can watch any longer without Shane.

    Comment by Ves – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Jenner whispered to Rick that everyone is infected. It takes effect when the body dies. If you dont die from any brain trauma, you can come back to life. Everyone has it in them and it seems to be airborne. That’s why there were no bites on the security guards, randle, or shane. Darryl wont die because he’s a fan favorite. No more major actors will die. I assume the next casualty will be someone in Herschels family, not Maggie. Could be the suicidal girl or Otis’ wife

      Comment by Roy S. – March 11, 2012 11:25 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree. Lori used Shane and led him on. He really loved her… and for two seasons, Shane has been watching Rick leave her and Carl behind to go be the hero for people he barely knows. That’s what made him lose his mind. Shane got a raw deal. Rick will prob be the new Shane now, and Carl will be the new Rick.

      Comment by dawn – March 13, 2012 11:17 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Jon was te best actor next to Norman on the show. Sorry but that’s the true. And i hope the kill soon Lori i’m tires of that lazy bitch!

    Comment by julie – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I was a huge fan of Shane’s and, if there were a real zombie outbreak, I’d much rather have him with me than that wishy-washy Rick. I can’t stand him, or his pathetic wife or his moronic kid. They should have wiped out the three of them, it would make a better show IMO.

      Comment by Cheryl – March 11, 2012 08:49 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Your opinion is wrong.

        Comment by bOb – March 11, 2012 10:52 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Ohmygod I totally agree with u two, Jon Bernthal is amazing and he really gave the show some fire! And HELL yes in that world I would want to be with Shane–he is a real man.

        Comment by Amy – March 11, 2012 11:29 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Really? You would rather follow and obviously deranged man? You probably date abusive men too…

        Comment by Rick – March 12, 2012 01:48 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • The two reasons Rick was wishy-washy are dead. It was like having Dale sitting on one shoulder dressed like an angel and Shane sitting on the other dressed like a devil. The whole story is based around Rick. It always has been. The Dale/Shane dynamic was just there to externalize what is going on in Rick’s head. He’s fighting to keep his humanity (Dale) in a world that requires inhumane actions (Shane). With these two gone, you’ll get to see them both come out in Rick in a much less wishy-washy way.

        *spoiler*
        Since Rick is the center of the story, everyone else is fair game. It’s not a matter of if, but when and how. But, the comics are years ahead of the show so, you will get to see people stick around for quite a while.

        Comment by Walker Bait – March 12, 2012 07:29 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Thank you walker bait. I was really getting annoyed with people bashing Rick all the time. The external illustration of Rick’s internal struggles seem to travel over the heads of most people. I love Rick’s character (and Andrew Lincoln) and I think most people bashing him do not have families of their own and don’t quite understand what it’s like to feel the need to want to do what’s “right” regardless of the ramifications. You must understand that Rick is a good man and is the only character who still has his entire immediate family intact. I for one think the writers are doing an amazing job so far. Sure, some of the scenes SEEM a little drawn out, but I think as the show evolves the writers are correcting it, like the zombie killing scenes during Dale’s funeral instead of just focusing on the emotions involved. The show can seem slow moving periodically, but I think it makes the crescendo events more dramatic; this show has not yet let me down at all. I don’t care if they kill ALL of my favorite characters, it just goes to show how bold and how far the writers are willing to go. All we can do is hope this show doesn’t end up doing what Heroes did on their 3rd season.

          Comment by PJ – March 12, 2012 12:43 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • You say that now but, even though it’s impossible, try to put yourself in Rick’s shoes. He’s got, what, an 10 year old son and another baby coming? Would you really want some crazy guy who bases his judgments off of fight or be killed and on top of that who is lusting after your wife and wants your kid to call HIM dad? Heck no! Shane is a badass but he thinks of kill or be killed to easily. I mean what if he didn’t kill Otis, then what? Maybe Otis could have watched guard with Dale, or helped calm Dale down, then he wouldn’t be dead. He could have been an extra hand on the farm but rather than save him, he shot him and left him for dead. I wouldn’t want that kind of guy around my friends, let alone my only surviving family.

        Comment by Stephen – March 13, 2012 10:26 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I don’t know what would happen next, I’m too shocked to speculate!!!

    Comment by shoker – March 11, 2012 08:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • It’s more of an airborne kind of thing. Remember Randall’s neck was just snapped and yet he was also a walker? It’s in their blood and infects them when they die is what it looks like…

    Comment by Brenda – March 11, 2012 08:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yes, Shane’s death IS the one that was leaked in the advertising of the season 2 DVD.

    Comment by cathy – March 11, 2012 08:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Great ending. Didn’t see it coming. It does give the thought the outbreak is airborne or did Shane infect himself when he stabbed the zombie in skull and not wipe knife off before he cut himself again. Looking forward I finale.

    Comment by Joe Bonato – March 11, 2012 08:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • How long has shane been infected and how..iam watching again !

    Comment by liz stephenson – March 11, 2012 08:20 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Remember on the bus when Shane cut his hand and wiped the blood on the door? That was the same knife he killed the Walker guard with at the fence when they first got there… so..I think he was infected at least since then.

      Comment by battatter – March 11, 2012 08:37 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Everyone is speculating that, but it’s not true. If Shane was infected, why didnt he change earlier? Secondly, how did he infect Randall? Third, why did it only happen when he died? This is because the virus only takes affect when the body dies. Everyone has it

        Comment by Roy S. – March 11, 2012 11:32 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • why kill shane hes a great shot and helped protect the camp now u have a cop with a colt a redneck with a bow and a bunch of kids with shotguns and bolt actions what the hell there will be alot of dead people next show

    Comment by dakoda – March 11, 2012 08:21 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Did you not see the show? Shane didn’t give him much of a choice.

      Comment by Rick – March 12, 2012 01:53 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • You clearly haven’t watched the show. You also clearly have no idea how to write a coherent sentence.

      Comment by Brandon – March 12, 2012 02:17 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Please help me out what am I missing Who is Jenner? What did he whisper to Rick I dont read the comics

    Comment by melissa – March 11, 2012 08:22 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Jenner is the Dr. from the first season finale, he died with Jacqui in the CDC.

      Comment by A – March 11, 2012 08:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • While I know “this is what happened in the comics” I think they made a big mistake killing off one of the show’s best characters in such a really, really lame and undeveloped way.

    And while we’re at it, why exactly would Rick NOT tell this rather important secret. I mean, really, say they are sitting around at dinner and Rick is off on one of his walkabouts. Herschel has a sudden heart attack and dies. Wouldn’t it be important for the others to know that they really need to take a machete to Herschel? Seems a poor choice.

    Comment by Kalia – March 11, 2012 08:22 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • machete to Herchel LMAO!!! you should be a writer for the show.

      Comment by deadthingsmikey!deadthings! – March 11, 2012 09:07 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Shane needed to go – there are other strong male members of the show that now can be developed. And obviously Jenner did not whisper to Rick that he knew it was airborne and if a person dies then they’d come back as a zombie without being bitten or scratched. Think about it, if he did Rick would have stabbed him in the head after he stabbed him in the gut. Lets think logically people! lol

      Comment by Stephanie – March 11, 2012 09:17 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Ahh, but didn’t you notice Rick was sitting on top of Shane when Carl came up? Think he was waiting on Shane to wake up as a zombie because Jenner told him everyone is infected? How about that logic?

        Comment by Rusty – March 11, 2012 10:14 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • For the record, in ‘Nebraska’, Rick does the following:

        “Dave reaches for his gun on the bar, but Rick quickly draws and shoots Dave in the head. Rick then quickly pivots, putting two bullets in Tony’s chest before he can train his gun on Rick. Rick then finishes him with a bullet in the head.”

        I was wondering why the final shot to the head. But now I understand, and I believe this demonstrates that Rick has always known what happens when someone dies. As to why he never told anyone? I don’t know…

        Comment by James – March 12, 2012 12:14 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • thats is very gr8 attention to detail!

          Comment by daddy lovesya – March 12, 2012 02:08 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • Yes, yes, yes! You are exactly right on that one! Why he didn’t say anything? My guess would be that he doesn’t want people to have to know that if they die a bite free/head injury free death, they will eventually come back. I know that if I died of a heart attack I would definitely not want to come back, because that would be a horrible existence! I mean, even though my body has become a shambling, flesh eating corpse, I would hope that my ‘soul’ makes it to a better place. But then again, who knows? I could see it really messing with people’s beliefs. I think it shows what depth of character Rick has to keep it to himself. This is a great topic, thanks for bringing it up!

          Comment by Kel – March 12, 2012 03:55 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I dont think that Jenner whispered that everyone is infected and that rick knew.. because if you think back to the episode where Rick and Shane have their first comfrontation (while theyre were trying to ditch the prisoner) both Rick and Shane seemed surprised and confused as to why the police officer walkers had no bites… Well, I dont know, If Jenner did whisper that the virus is airborn then that makes Rick a bit of a dick for now telling people, at least someone..

          Comment by Danté – March 12, 2012 04:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • to Dante- if you watch that episode again you will notice that rick wasnt the least bit suprised at all that the guards had no scratches and even tried to quickly dismiss it from thought and i agree with Dax if everyone knew that they had the virus i’m sure alot of them would quickly lose hope and off themselves.

            Comment by Anthony – March 12, 2012 08:24 AM PDT  
        • Rick didn’t tell everyone because he didn’t want to cause panic and/or mass suicide. Think about how that blonde girl acted when her zombie mother was killed. She sunk into a deep depression and then tried to kill herself. If everyone knew they were already infected they would lose hope. Rick is keeping the secret to keep everyone alive.

          Comment by Dax – March 12, 2012 05:10 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • If you could think logically then it would be fairly obvious that he told Rick the truth about the disease. The show has basically spoon fed that information to you. “lol”

        Comment by Brandon – March 12, 2012 02:20 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Good point! Also, if Jenner really did tell Rick that everyone was a carrier and they would turn when they died, why was he surprised to see the guards with no bites or scratches? It would seem that it wouldn’t be news if he already had that information.

        Comment by Poizn – March 12, 2012 09:30 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • He was trying to keep the real truth from the rest of the people to provide that false sense of hope. But now more people know…so the truth will come out.

          Comment by Mike – March 12, 2012 09:40 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Just wait for season 3. You might change your mind about thinking it was a big mistake :)

      Comment by Melanie – March 12, 2012 05:18 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • “really, really lame and undeveloped way”

      You call spending the entire 1st and 2nd season building up Shane’s character just to kill him off but including a whole bunch of baggage along the way (tearing apart Rick/Shane’s friendship, possibly impregnating his best friend’s wife, killing off Otis to save best friend’s wife’s whom he loves son, creating a divide in the group of survivalists vs. no man left behind) ….lame and undeveloped?!?!

      What show were you watching?

      Comment by Mike – March 12, 2012 09:49 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I agree with Kalia that Shane was killed off without adequate development. It is like Shane had a psychotic break. That is the only way I can explain his behavior in killing Randall (that could have been just to protect the group), breaking his own nose on the tree, then staging the standoff with Rick which led to his own death. Shane’s character was essential to the story arcs and he was the most interesting one in the series. I don’t care what happened in the comic version. The character of Shane was mesmerizing and on the edge; he was the character in a series you love to hate.

      As others have stated here, no one is safe in zombie tales. I guess it is clear that the virus has gone airborne since now folks are dying without getting bitten and rising up as zombies. I like that Carl got to kill a zombie, and save his Dad’s life. I do think that given the rapid devolving of Shane, they did a good job with the final dynamic between Rick and Shane.

      Still, I still feel sorry that they decided to eliminate Shane, as I think his character was very pivotal to the story. I think that they should have made the devolving of Shane’s character have better development so that it would have become more believable and not so fiction-forced as this seemed. I think that since Shane’s character took on a life of its own, he should not have been killed off so abruptly, or at all.

      I know more deaths are coming, some here even say Lori will not make it. I want to go and buy the comics now, as I am curious about where this could be going.

      Comment by carol foster – March 12, 2012 03:18 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • First, I love the show and will watch to the eventual end. But, Carl, again wandering around and just happens upon Rick and Shane, when he was supposed to be back at the house with everyone? Seriously? I was annoyed with this little story device when he suddenly appeared at the barn just as Rick was going shoot the prisoner and then it happens again? I mean come on, really?

    Comment by Zak – March 11, 2012 08:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • he was looking out the window with binoculars remember? he was looking into the field. the fade out showed the house in the distance so you know the kid would have saw them in advance.

      Comment by mccarty – March 11, 2012 08:44 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Sorry, not buying it. So, Shane drags Rick all the way out to murder him on some wild goose chase, and then picks a field that you can clearly see from the house. And there’s Carl again, the kid with the most irresponsible mother guardian in the world.

        It was weak, but I can overlook it.

        Comment by Mark M. – March 11, 2012 10:35 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • but Rick and Shane seemed to walk and walk and walk deeper into the woods until they walked into an open field. Seemed like they walked WAY out into the woods..only to see the farmhouse in the background and that dang kid popping up randomly everywhere like the butler in Mr. Deeds….”very sneaky”

        Comment by Richie Rico – March 11, 2012 11:25 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • carl heard the gun fire from when rick shanked his fellow officer. at least thats what i saw on talking dead. this show makes me horny

        Comment by daddy lovesya – March 12, 2012 02:12 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I have to agree – when the guys left to go into to the woods, they instructed EVERYONE to get into the house. Where the heck was Lori as Carl is wandering around? IF everyone was in the house, wouldn’t it be noticed that he had gone out? I know he is a kid, and kids are sneaky, but we are talking the zombie apocalypse here – you think his mother would keep an eye on him. Rick should have let Shane live and took Lori out – Carl would have been better with two dads then her as a mom.

      Comment by Jenni – March 12, 2012 09:11 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yes!!! I’ve always intrigued and wondered constantly about what Dr. Jenner had whispered into Rick’s ear at the end of season 1, so its going to be very interesting to hear what was said. I’m also glad that they are not going to follow the comic to the T. This approach leaves it up to creativity and imagination. Either way, though, its going to make for some great t.v.!!

    Comment by David J. P. – March 11, 2012 08:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • F**king mind blower these last few episodes have kept me on the edge of my seat and praying that my fav characters dont die lol, then dale dies :( lol but good show! just dont kill off glenn or daryle there awsome!

    Comment by Jesse – March 11, 2012 08:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • What happened to daryls brother?

    Comment by josh – March 11, 2012 08:24 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Merle’s probably a walker now – how poetic would it be for him to be part of the herd that is about to overrun the farm?

      Comment by becca – March 11, 2012 08:36 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • Back in the early episodes of Season One, Daryl’s brother was handcuffed to a pipe on the roof of a building. They had to run because the walkers were coming. The black guy (sorry, I’ve forgotten his name) lost the key to the handcuffs and they had to leave the guy there. They’ve never shown him again but when Rick went back to get him, he was gone (and, if I’m remembering correctly, his hand was there). We keep expecting him to turn up again.

      Comment by Cheryl – March 11, 2012 08:55 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I’m pretty sure that Merle will part of the other group that Randall was part of

      Comment by joey – March 11, 2012 09:19 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Yeah it would be awesome to see Merle as part of the other group. Where’s Morgan(black guy w/ little boy)? Rick used to leave him msgs and now they totally forgot about him, he needs to return in heroic form. He was a true survivor. Now that the farm is overrun, where is season 3′s new destination?

        Comment by Roy S. – March 11, 2012 11:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • The next destination is most likely going to be the dark side of the moon. Now that the nazis have left it unguarded.

          Comment by Neightron – March 12, 2012 11:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • I do not like that Shanes gone!! Very sad! :’(

    Comment by Brook – March 11, 2012 08:25 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • shane was the bad guy…. seriously?

      Comment by Trippe – March 11, 2012 08:54 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Awww. . .come on. . .he wasn’t the bad guy. . .he was merely misunderstood — imagine what some happy drugs and a nap could have done for him!

        Comment by Kalia – March 11, 2012 11:05 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Shane was the bad guy? Dude, zombie apocalypse. There are no bad guys. Shane was surviving the apocalypse, he wanted to keep the group safe, specially the woman and child he loved.

        He was a great man. He should have killed Rick, too bad he was slow and Rick stabbed him by surprise. Boo.

        Comment by sads – March 12, 2012 01:43 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • I think Shane wanted Rick to kill him. He was egging him on, saying he had a weak son. No way Shane believes that. He loved Lori and Carl. He was at a point where he didn’t see a happy ending for himself – no Lori, no Carl, no baby, and no way of knowing what the future held. He wanted out.

          Comment by Grae – March 12, 2012 02:16 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
          • I think he wanted to die too. He knew he couldn’t have Lori and it was eating him alive. I hated that he was killed off. He brought a lot to the show. He was strong and what they needed. If I was in that situation I would want to be with Shane and Darryl.

            Comment by Pam – March 12, 2012 06:29 AM PDT  
          • Yep!

            Comment by glack – March 12, 2012 07:13 AM PDT  
  • Loved this episode and love that people dying of “normal” causes other than zombie related was revealed. Thought that was what Jenner might have told him and why he was so willing to die at the CDC. Can’t wait for next week and then….The Rise of The Governor!

    Comment by Jason Thrift – March 11, 2012 08:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Everone is already infected… Lori will die next…

    Comment by Matt – March 11, 2012 08:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • This show is so freakin awesome. The kid n the barn I feel got infected by the cuffs, or with having open lesions in that barn could have infectrd him. Shane did use his knife on the bus to cut himself, after he had used it to kill zombies at the gate. Ugh! I hate waiting, but then I dont want this show to end either. Luv it!

    Comment by Rcantu – March 11, 2012 08:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • In the interview above the writer talks about how they were sure to show all the dead people on the highway with HEAD injuries. Either from a car accident or they were killed by someone else after. All these people on here are trying to figure out how Shane was already infected and the same with Randall. But its pretty obvious that everyone is already a carrier and if they die from a cause that is not head trauma related, they will come back as a walker

      Comment by Tom – March 11, 2012 10:23 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • if the infection was airborne from the beginning, then why did the scientist at the CDC in season 1 use protective suit?

        Comment by kate – March 13, 2012 04:31 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • They weren’t keeping Randall in the barn.

      Comment by Grae – March 12, 2012 02:18 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • No, the dead all come to life. Everyone’s infected. Think about it; would it make sense that a virus that turned the reanimated people into shambling, slow-moving animals could just take over humanity in a couple of months? No, we would have contained it in the very first hospital it showed up in. Humans are very good at containment. They’re also quite easy to kill, so that doesn’t make sense either.

      …plus in the comic all the dead come to life. :P

      Comment by Sarah – March 12, 2012 09:58 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • Just noticed that I said something ambiguously. By “they’re also quite easy to kill,” I meant zombies, not humans. Humans are tough bastards.

        Comment by Sarah – March 12, 2012 10:00 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • For a second there I though Daryl was gonna get bit by that stupid Randall, and I was like, if Daryl gets knocked out, i may never watch again. But thank goodness he’s fine. Very exciting to see Rick step up and do what was necessary, and Karl too. Both times Shane went down fightin’. Very interesting to see who’s next and how the show is goin go build after so many pivotal characters are knocked out

    Comment by Tanji – March 11, 2012 08:26 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • in the future of the walking dead i think at the end of the show its going to be rick,carl,daryl,maggie,and glen. if your wondering why i left out andrea and michonne its because i think theyre going to just give up and have no hope.

      Comment by jordan jones – April 2, 2012 02:06 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Yay!! Finally Shane is dead, twice! Even better. Great episode can’t wait for the finale!!

    Comment by Katie – March 11, 2012 08:27 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Wow I was totally blown away had to rewind just to make sure I saw what I saw!!! Lol didn’t know he was leaving hadn’t heard the stories!! Can’t wait till Sunday!! Then the long wait til October :-(

    Comment by Deetta – March 11, 2012 08:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • Ok so it was zombie randall that Daryl ad Glenn killed right? And my guess is that in episode 13 the biggest shocker and sad moment will be; they’re fighting off te zombies from the forest when someone comes across zombie Daryl and Glenn who got eaten or scratched by the zombies from the forrest…

    Comment by Daria – March 11, 2012 08:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • the preview from the next episode shows daryl shooting from his motorcycle.

      Comment by mccarty – March 11, 2012 08:47 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
  • What do they mean by “Shane turning into a zombie in the end pretty much confirms that everyone’s already infected.”? Is this a virus that everyone has and it’s just taking longer for some of them to turn??

    Comment by Emily – March 11, 2012 08:28 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
    • I believe it means that everyone on earth is already infected, but you don’t turn into a zombie until your body dies….and there’s no brain trauma/damage upon death. This might be what Jenner whispered to Rick last season….we shall find out in the next episode!! :D

      Comment by soylentgreen – March 11, 2012 10:41 PM PDT  Reply To This Post
      • shutup chink

        Comment by audel – October 1, 2012 11:35 AM PDT  Reply To This Post
        • wow, racism on a public forum… how original…

          Comment by ran76 – October 1, 2012 12:16 PM PDT  Reply To This Post

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